C-Win (was:Re: customization questions)
Hallo Ming-Li, On Thu, 25 May 2000 19:02:47 -0700 GMT (26.05.2000, 10:02 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML 1. make The Bat! show dates (in the message list pane) in ML the way I'm more familiar with. I'm using Chinese ML (Traditional) Windows 98, and no matter how I set the ML regional setting of my system, TB insists on showing "dd MM ML ", like "25 May 2000". I would like to set it as "MM dd ML ", but I couldn't, even after I've set the nationality ML of my Windows as "English (United States)". Even funnier ML when I set Windows as Chinese (Taiwan), TB still shows "dd ML MM ", only where MM is in Chinese. You mean you can switch C-Win98 between English and Chinese? Mine is always in Chinese (Taiwan) and my Chinese reading is not good enough for this. So I would like the dates (and a lot more) to be in English. Where do I do that? -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.42f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! Version 1.44 is available...
Hi Mark, On 27 May 2000 at 01:22:52 GMT +0100 (which was 01:22 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! Version 1.44 is available...": Sorry folks - I'm not desperate to reply to my own posts but I noticed in the "What's new" text a message stating... We felt that we should release 1.44 because we should add some precaution steps against viruses jumping around the Internet nowadays... Do not download the distribution archive from the European mirror until tomorrow. The single executable, as always, on http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html I'm not sure when exactly the 'tomorrow' is meant to be - it could be the 27th since the upgrade was posted on the 26th according to the webpage but perhaps it'll just be safer to grab the download from the US mirror for the near future... Releases are announced on the TBBETA list and the RIT web site but not usually on TBUDL. There are a number of improvements for 1.44: [+] Possibility to append messages to UNIX-mailbox on export. [+] Quotation prefix length limit setting in message editor properties. [+] Advanced page in Sorting office with additional conditions for a filter. [+] Configurable Add/Delete address filter action. [+] It is now possible to associate a filter with a hotkey. [*] Images referenced by "Content-Location" are now shown in HTML. [+] %QClipboard/%QuoteClipboard macro. [+] %OneLine/%SingleLine macro. [+] %QuoteStyle macro [*] It is possible to use apostrophes and double quotes in macro parameters. [*] Most of confirmation dialogue boxes now use OK/Cancel instead of old Yes/No. It was impossible to cancel such boxes by pressing the Escape key. [+] "Save all attachments" command. [*] Warning on opening attachments. [*] All types of attachments can be deleted. [*] Message|Attachment menu in message browser windows. [*] File names of text attachments are shown in tabs. [*] Actual file names are shown in braces in attachment list. [-] PGP key import didn't work - it was always grayed. [-] The program could hang while importing a message with a line starting with "begin etc.." [-] Bug with not changing cookie in Quick Templates -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.44 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: Date of TB v1.15
Hi Sir, On 26 May 2000 at 22:41:49 GMT +0200 (which was 21:41 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "OT: Date of TB v1.15": I am trying to find out exactly how long am I flying on TB:) So, does anyone know [approximately] the time when v1.15 was released? The first posting to TBUDL using v1.15 was on 11th November 1998 20:10GMT. The first evidence of 1.16b was 22nd November 15:12 GMT. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.44 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Multi Address Users
Hi Nick, On 27 May 2000 at 18:07:24 GMT -0700 (which was 02:07 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Multi Address Users": 2) (and *this* is how the TB Address Book *should* be used in such circumstances) have a separate AB entry for each address. Personally, I think TB! should treat this situation like a lot of other strategic Mailers do, and give you the option of right clicking the AB entry in the To: field, and choose which address you want to use. That may be, but wishing it worked another way doesn't change the fact that the best way to use the software /as it is today/ is as I described. One has to work within the constraints of the system to get the best from it until the wished for enhancements are made. Hopefully, as Dieter mentions, this will be the case in Version 2.0 Indeed. OTOH, I won't actually use the AB in that way - I'll stay with the way it is now for a simple reason: I don't want to be interrupted by an extra dialog when trying to write to my colleague at home instead of his usual work address. I would consider that a penalty and an overhead. I would much rather pick his home address from a separate AB entry. Of course, it ultimately depends on what mechanism is be introduced to handle multiple addresses in a single record. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.44 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Change DUN connection for International Roaming with Laptop
Hello TBUDL! I have two DUN connections set up. When I chose Option/Dial-up Monitor/Show always, I have the possibility to change the "Phoen book entry". But then there is no button "connect now". So I choose "check mail for all", but TB changes the phone book entry back to the default. How do I connect with the other phone book entry? -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.44 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
SMTP
hallo TBUDL! are there plans to read mail via monitoring an SMTP-directory in BAT? (see PMMAIL) PAT -- vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
FreeStuff
Hi Mark, http://www.bahlsen.co.uk/try.htm Bahlsen http://www.myfreeld.com/download.html Free Telecom offers... Cheers, Mark -- -- - Using TheBat! 1.44 Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP-decryption
I have a question regarding the PGP-support in The Bat! : Is it possible to decrypt the original message instead of creating a decrypted copy? I save all messages decrypted here, so I have to delete the original manually for the moment. If not, can I use a filter or macro to delete the original somehow? Using The Bat! 1.42f under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- Robert Bratgjerd * [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.sol.no/~robertb/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: C-Win (was:Re: customization questions)
Hi Thomas, ML [snip]..., even after I've set the nationality of my ML Windows as "English (United States)". Even funnier when ML I set Windows as Chinese (Taiwan), ...[snip] You mean you can switch C-Win98 between English and Chinese? Mine is always in Chinese (Taiwan) and my Chinese reading is not good enough for this. So I would like the dates (and a lot more) to be in English. Where do I do that? Sorry to mislead you, what I meant was I could set the nationality (from control panel) of my system as "English (United States)". What that does is to control the default setting for things like measurement, date/time display, and so on. What you want (if I understand you correctly) is for the whole Windows to display English by default, which is impossible in C-Windows. If you only use Chinese sparingly, like viewing some Chinese web pages, then you'll be better off using English Windows and install IE's Chinese display/input support. Office 97 and 2000 and some other software support the same extension as well. But if you need to read/write Chinese email, then it's another matter. The Bat! (the current version) can't do that. In fact, very few email programs can. -- Best regards, Ming-Li -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Apology. (was FreeStuff)
Hi TBUDL, I was just checking the most recent postings to this list and was aghast to see I'd sent an earlier email with the title FreeStuff to this list instead of to my normal address. I promise everyone here that it was an unintentional mistake and I apologise for sending inappropriate mail to this list, especially given that some members here pay for their connection on a per-megabyte downloaded basis or similar. I hope you'll all forgive me my earlier transgression and for adding another message here but I wanted to assure you all that it was a mistake on my part. Sorry, Mark -- - Using TheBat! 1.44 Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: C-Win (was:Re: customization questions)
Hallo Ming-Li, On Sat, 27 May 2000 06:27:58 -0700 GMT (27.05.2000, 21:27 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML What you want (if I understand you correctly) is for the whole ML Windows to display English by default, which is impossible in ML C-Windows. Thanks; I already decided to install an English Windows but thought this might not be necessary. While TB is in English, the day of the week, and the month, are diaplayed as in Chinese. While I can read that much, it is not aestthetic to much scripts and languages. I understood in your earlier posting that you can switch this to English somehow. I guess I was mistaken. ML If you only use Chinese sparingly, like viewing some Chinese ML web pages, then you'll be better off using English Windows ML and install IE's Chinese display/input support. Office 97 ML and 2000 and some other software support the same extension ML as well. But if you need to read/write Chinese email, then ML it's another matter. The Bat! (the current version) can't ML do that. In fact, very few email programs can. The Bat! actually *can* do it. If you run TB! under C-Win as I do, Chinese messages are displayed correctly. My problem is that all high-ASCII characters (often used in German language) are interpreted as the first byte of a Chinese character. Anyway, no problems reading Chinese with TB (except for the actual cognitive "reading" g). For writing, you toggle Chin/Eng with the crtl-shift shortkey. I have often asked my secretary to write a few things (like names of persons or places) into my otherwise English emails. Even though message encoding says ISO-8859-1 in my messages headers, they are actually in Big5. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.44 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP-decryption
On Sat, 27 May 2000 14:42:11 +0200, Robert Bratgjerd wrote: RB Is it possible to decrypt the original message instead of creating a RB decrypted copy? I save all messages decrypted here, so I have to RB delete the original manually for the moment. If not, can I use a RB filter or macro to delete the original somehow? Yes. You could create an automatic 'read' filter to delete messages with the string '(Decrypted)' in the subject header. -- Allie Martin[ TB! v1.44 | Win2k Pro ] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey - Tag: "What you enjoy is much more important than what you have. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP-decryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, May 27, 2000, 9:05:18 AM, Allie Martin wrote: RB Is it possible to decrypt the original message instead of creating a RB decrypted copy? I save all messages decrypted here, so I have to RB delete the original manually for the moment. If not, can I use a RB filter or macro to delete the original somehow? Yes. You could create an automatic 'read' filter to delete messages with the string '(Decrypted)' in the subject header. Allie, I think Robert wants to delete the original _encrypted_ message, once it's been decrypted. As it stands, TB! now produces a totally separate unecrypted copy of the message which he wants to keep, and then delete the original. I don't know if you could set up a filter for that. Robert, I've spoken with Stefan on other PGP matters, and from that discussion, I do think TB! Version 2.0 will begin to behave like other Mailers (Eudora/Outlook) that have better PGP implementation. Nick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Digitally signed to allow for authentication by recipient. iQA/AwUBOTABN8UChHR7o/3OEQLnTACfdp7sItMZAeiEtJT1LTSonlZXwLYAn1mC MhZHqr8fhDUhPrLYBji4C6y/ =3ctq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Multi Address Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, May 27, 2000, 1:38:15 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Indeed. OTOH, I won't actually use the AB in that way - I'll stay with the way it is now for a simple reason: I don't want to be interrupted by an extra dialog when trying to write to my colleague at home instead of his usual work address. I would consider that a penalty and an overhead. I would much rather pick his home address from a separate AB entry. Point made/taken Marck, but if you have the most common address set as the default address, then there is only a right click... and choose from a short list of 2 or 3 addresses. I hardly call that dialogue a "penalty"... rather a convenience. :o) Of course, it ultimately depends on what mechanism is be introduced to handle multiple addresses in a single record. Exactly! Nick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Digitally signed to allow for authentication by recipient. iQA/AwUBOTAC78UChHR7o/3OEQJ/GgCg+3qGJkX00sI3wJO87Uq5qAjIOi8AoPGO MDnwDTIBfY7ydR+bB5MDmvWP =g/eM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB! as MAPI mailer
Can I use the Bat! as my MAPI mailprogram? -- Urban -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP-decryption
On Sat, 27 May 2000 10:09:13 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA Allie, I think Robert wants to delete the original _encrypted_ NA message, once it's been decrypted. As it stands, TB! now produces a NA totally separate unecrypted copy of the message which he wants to NA keep, and then delete the original. I don't know if you could set up NA a filter for that. Ah, I see what you mean. My bad and my apologies. :-( -- Allie Martin[ TB! v1.44 | Win2k Pro ] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey - Tag: "You can never get rid of a bad temper by losing it. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! as MAPI mailer
Hello Urban, Saturday, May 27, 2000, 7:21:23 PM, you wrote: U Can I use the Bat! as my MAPI mailprogram? It seems not alas! I too have great need for this feature and had been hoping it might be incorporated into one of the upgrades. No such luck unfortunately. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie with Address Book Problem
Hello Listmembers, On Fri, 26 May 2000 at 18:13:23 [GMT -0500] Allie Martin wrote: I see what you mean. The sorting is, however, simply done in the reverse order. Strange. It doesn't toggle sorting by first name as opposed to last name. Are you happy with what it does there? It really doesn't do what Gene queried. He wishes for the address book to sort by last name globally. If I set the main address book to sort by last name and I open the address book applet via the editor window, the entries are sorted by first name A-Z. I hit the header bar and it sorts alphabetically by first name from Z-A. :-/ I see what Gene queried. But I used to have my addressbook /displaying/ lastname, firstname anyway - so the addressbook opened in New Message shows the same behavior... there's no other kind of displaying than in my main addressbook. Regards Dieter |Running TheBat! 1.44 [2E7F60DA] on |Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Authorized German Registration Site: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html German Support : http://www.register-me.de/the_bat mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP signing question.
Hello Nick, Saturday, May 27, 2000, 12:15:17 AM, you wrote: NA I have two Accounts Christian, and would like to do the same thing, but NA I've not figured out how, unless someone else has come up with a way. It NA would be a nice implementation though. NA Instead, TB! simply PGP clear-signs via whatever key you've designated as NA your default key in PGP Keys. Even if you were to use the %SIGNCOMPLETE NA macro, you would still have to choose which key you wanted to use... via NA the drop down list under "Singing Key" in the accompanying dialogue box... NA each and every time you send a message. Don't forget to disengage the NA passphrase caching in PGP Options if you always want that choice. NA Nick NA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- NA Version: PGP 6.5.3 NA Comment: Digitally signed to allow for authentication by recipient. NA iQA/AwUBOS9Z4sUChHR7o/3OEQI2SwCg59KDGH2OruRYyDYqemok0vxzg5MAoJCO NA XrP7oZCC9yawgwF1mdhZh+cm NA =DcOG NA -END PGP SIGNATURE- I was pretty sure this was implemented when I started playing with PGP in The Bat! since The Bat! is a (and one among *very* few) truly multi account supporting clients. I see you use an "external" PGP implementation. It wouldn't be that the internal PGP implementation in The Bat! can do this? I am now pretty sure it can't after having looked in every corner for both documented and a possibly undocumented feature, but I ask again :) You are right though, in these multi mail account times when even your average ISP gives you a few aliases this functionality would be very helpful. -- Best regards, Christian Dysthe http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_PGP_Key -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP signing question.
On Saturday, May 27, 2000 at 5:13 PM or thereabouts, Christian Dysthe wrote the following about PGP signing question.: Christian You are right though, in these multi mail account times Christian when even your average ISP gives you a few aliases this Christian functionality would be very helpful. I'm sure there are reasons of which I'm simply unaware, but why cannot one simply have their multiple addresses on *one* key? Why the need for multiple keys? TIA Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.uswest.net/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: Some people fall for everything and stand for nothing. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: C-Win (was:Re: customization questions)
Hi Thomas, While TB is in English, the day of the week, and the month, are diaplayed as in Chinese. While I can read that much, it is not aestthetic to much scripts and languages. I understood in your earlier posting that you can switch this to English somehow. I guess I was mistaken. No, you're not mistaken. Yes, I did mean you may let TB show the day of the week, and the month in English. That's how it's setup in my C-Windows right now. Go to [control panel] and set your nation/region setting as English. That should do it. ML If you only use Chinese sparingly, like viewing some ML Chinese web pages, then you'll be better off using ML English Windows and install IE's Chinese display/input ML support. Office 97 and 2000 and some other software ML support the same extension as well. But if you need to ML read/write Chinese email, then it's another matter. ML The Bat! (the current version) can't do that. In fact, ML very few email programs can. The Bat! actually *can* do it. If you run TB! under C-Win as I do, Chinese messages are displayed correctly. My problem is that all high-ASCII characters (often used in German language) are interpreted as the first byte of a Chinese character. Anyway, no problems reading Chinese with TB (except for the actual cognitive "reading" g). Yes, TB! can read/write Chinese in C-Win. I do that, too. And many email programs can. What I said TB and most other email programs can't do is to read/write Chinese in E-Win with Microsoft's East Asian Language extension, which is not supported by many programs. (For TB, I'm only speculating here, since I never used TB in the days when I used E-Win. But few programs did, anyway.) English Win 2000 seems to have much better DBCS support through out the system, but I've never tried. Even though message encoding says ISO-8859-1 in my messages headers, they are actually in Big5. That's another thing I wish TB would allow me to change in the future. -- Best regards, Ming-Li -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP signing question.
Hello Nick, Saturday, May 27, 2000, 5:25:22 PM, you wrote: NA Hopefully, PGP will be better implemented in Version 2.0, but until then, NA it's my feeling that the external PGP implementation, as opposed to the NA internal, would better accommodate the security concerns of TB! Users. U.why is that? Isn't PGP..eh..PGP? I mean isn't a 1024 key just as secure implemented in The Bat! as used from an external application? I am not expert, maybe I have missed something? Besides that, the built in PGP is so easy to use and set up I think a lot more users will be able to use it than the external alternatives. Which is...yes! would accommodate security for more The Bat!users. Some security is better than none, right? :) NA Nick NA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- NA Version: PGP 6.5.3 NA Comment: Digitally signed to allow for authentication by recipient. NA iQA/AwUBOTBLUMUChHR7o/3OEQKMkgCgsJFXgZOPqwS8aWjRy3mMvW7oJ+EAnR3H NA qq+riMzhTLKmwp0HDpZYR5eK NA =yYaO NA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best regards, Christian Dysthe http://christian.dysthe.tripod.com ICQ: 3945810 PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_PGP_Key -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP signing question.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, May 27, 2000, 4:52:37 PM, Christian Dysthe wrote: CD U.why is that? Isn't PGP..eh..PGP? I mean isn't a 1024 key just as CD secure implemented in The Bat! as used from an external application? I am CD not expert, maybe I have missed something? Well, for one thing, I don't believe the internal implementation allows for use of anything other than RSA Keys. The question then remains: Which algorithms are stronger... RSA or DH/DSS? In practise, RSA Keys seem to be more vulnerable, and the reasons can be found here: http://www.scramdisk.clara.net/pgpfaq.html The latest freeware version of PGP is 6.5.3, and PGP Desktop Security 7.0 has already been released, although the freeware version has not. There is no reason to be using anything other than the latest and greatest, when it comes to security. Nick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Digitally signed to allow for authentication by recipient. iQA/AwUBOTBwwsUChHR7o/3OEQJZ6ACfVwKFQTKBnoDRqL0X0IvarIW/R9gAn3V3 RzM+3p/HdLfEiceFBM9nVJ3e =wSR2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP signing question.
On Saturday, May 27, 2000, 3:24:42 PM, Chuck Mattsen wrote: I'm sure there are reasons of which I'm simply unaware, but why cannot one simply have their multiple addresses on *one* key? Why the need for multiple keys? Although PGP allows for more than one User name or E-Mail address for use with the same Key Pair (Private and Public Key), it allows for only one of them to be a primary identifier. Most Users have specific security concerns that are not addressed by having just the one Key Pair, and so you see a lot of Key Pairs with only one address associated with it. It has more to do with signing, encrypting and verification concerns than anything else. Nick -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP signing question.
Greetings Nick! On Saturday, May 27, 2000 at 18:05:08 GMT -0700 (which was 6:05 PM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: NA The latest freeware version of PGP is 6.5.3, and PGP Desktop Security 7.0 NA has already been released, although the freeware version has not. There is NA no reason to be using anything other than the latest and greatest, when it NA comes to security. Technically if you want to get down and say that, then I've always heard that the older the version of pgp (ie. 2.x) are harder to crack than the newer windows versions. I can't remember where I heard that though, I've always believed it. -- ... Unicorns vs. Bat , and that unicorn is just about out of BLOOD NOW! hahahah --- The Bat! 1.44 + 98Lite + Revenge of Mozilla II -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: PGP signing question.
Hi Phil, On Saturday, May 27, 2000, 10:20:43 PM, you wrote in part about "PGP signing question.": p Technically if you want to get down and say that, then I've always p heard that the older the version of pgp (ie. 2.x) are harder to p crack than the newer windows versions. I can't remember where I p heard that though, I've always believed it. This is because the older versions have the open source code readily available for inspection to see if there has been any tampering via checksums, both the US and International versions. The new versions - well, the source code has not been available, as far as I can tell. There is no new International version, but just a copy from the US version (6.53) -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of the time and have the time of your life. PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
