Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:40:47 AM, Vishal wrote: V Ok, great. I just automatic mail checking with NO firewall installed and it V still doesn't work. I'm using the eval version of 2.0.0.6. It looks like ZA V wasn't to blame after all. What could be wrong? Vishal, Someone has just posted on TBBETA that he has the same problem as you do and he is also using Win 2000. It's sounding like a Win 2000 issue to me. I can't figure out how to post the link to the message id for that post but it was dated Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:48:08 -0400 and was from Melvyn Kouri, subject Periodical checking stopped checking !?!. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mini Bat2 Bug with window minimisation
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:45:25 AM, znark wrote: z Winkey+SHIFT+M should restore all windows that were minimized Great thanks znark that did the trick.. knew I must have missed a key combo somewhere! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: expanding the height of the message header field?
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:41:10 PM, Julian wrote: JBL Go to Options|Preferences|Message Headers (in the tree view) JBL Select the header that is in the scrollable bit, and click JBL on Edit. At the bottom of the dialogue, de-select Display in JBL Scrollable Part of Message Pane. My Edit and Delete buttons in there are both greyed out... is there some way of making them active that I'm overlooking? -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:59:05 PM, Wilfried wrote: WM Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? WM I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. Wilfrid, If you have only POP accounts (no IMAP) then you can simply reinstall v1.x over the top of v2 and the folders will still work. I just did this on my test PC to see what happened. I had no problems, no lost folders, no lost messages or anything like that. V1.x did become an unregistered version once more though, as the registry still had the key for v2.0 so you'll need to make sure you have your original v1.x reg details handy. Reminder: Before trying this make a copy of your Mail folder as a backup _just in case!_ -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:34:32 AM, Allie wrote: AM I'm wondering if it's ZA at all. :/ Allie and Vishal, Over on TBBETA Marek has just advised Melvyn who has this same problem to try using the Scheduler to do the auto downloading and Melvyn tried it and he says it worked. Perhaps if Vishal tries this also and then lets Marek know - he's doing some kind of feedback for devs about this. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Calling all moderators!
Moderators, Surely the 'HTML as default on v2.00' thread has gone way off topic in so many directions? You are normally quick to pronounce threads OT when they are even mildly so. Why not this one? Now, I'm as guilty as any other but it looks to me as if you're having too much fun in there to kill it? (Just my view, you understand.) Am I wrong? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Format Date Created in Preview Pane
Hello MAU, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:13:26 +0200 GMT (11/09/2003, 02:13 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: That date used to be shown in both time zones, the sender's and yours. Not any more in v2. I have critisised this already. Which one is maintained? I sort my review pane by Created. It doesn't matter which one is internally maintained, as there really is only one time regardless of the timezone in which it is displayed. TB uses the Date: header, if that answers your question. ;-) The question was only about the display. Now, the time is only displayed in the sender's local time in the header field, but in your local time time in the message list. The header field used to display the time in both time zones, and I miss that. It has always been displayed in my local time in the message list, and I like that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A duck walks into a drugstore and ask the clerk for Chapstick. The clerk puts the Chapstick on the counter and says, That will be $2. The duck replies, Just put it on my bill. (true story) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:59:28 +0200 GMT (11/09/2003, 01:59 +0700 GMT), Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: I can make copy of course of folders. What about registry ? Can there be messed up something ? I don't know, but a backup should be in order. Back up the whole key HKCU / Software / Rit. That is part of my TB backup routine before I install any new version. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Calling all moderators!
Hi Allister, @11-Sep-2003, 13:58 +1200 (02:58 UK time) Allister Jenks [AJ] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: AJ Surely the 'HTML as default on v2.00' thread has gone way AJ off topic in so many directions? ... snip AJ Am I wrong? It's run its course. I shall kill it very shortly if it continues. It did begin on-topic, as a query about TB's defaults. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: page fault error
Hello Rich, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:16:40 -0400 GMT (11/09/2003, 02:16 +0700 GMT), Rich Gregory wrote: I am trying to evaluate The Bat! for use as our new email client. I have A LOT of questions and was slowly finding answers on my own BUT now this morning I find I can no longer start the program. I see the several screens asking if I want TB! to be associated with several file types then, instead of the last one asking if I want TB to be my default email program, comes the error message: error mssg The program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. THEBAT caused an invalid page fault in module THEBAT.EXE at 017f:004072e5. If a reboot of your Windows 98 doesn't help and this message comes up each time you try to start TB, I would do a TB reinstall. No need to uninstall first, just install it again over the existing copy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Chrysler: The Mercedes-Benz of American Cars Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Specials - Mailing List
Hello Pixie, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:12:53 -0400 GMT (11/09/2003, 04:12 +0700 GMT), Pixie wrote: Is this item specifically related to hosting a list or is it supposed to be worth something as a list user? Check out RFC 2919: http://www.rfc-editor.org/cgi-bin/rfcdoctype.pl?loc=RFCletsgo=2919type=httpfile_format=txt It is worth quite something to the user. If I want to unsub, I don't have to follow links in the footer or remember the unbub address, I just go to Mailinglist / Unsub in TB. If I want to resub after my vacation, I highlight any mesage in the ML and go to Mailing lists / subscribe. And so on. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he was God and I didn't. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Specials - Mailing List
Hello Pixie, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:09:41 -0400 GMT (11/09/2003, 10:09 +0700 GMT), Pixie wrote: Since these commands in TB! don't appear to use AB templates I'd end up always sending the emails using the wrong account.. That's funny, because you need to hgihlight a message for the menu item Mailing list to work. A takes the info from the headers. This message will be in the account that you subscribed with... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. From page 468 of Using Turbo C++ by Herbert Schildt: REMEMBER: The private parts of an object are accessible only by functions that are members of that object. (Well, there goes free love...) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP converted to POP on install.
Hello Marck, -- Thank you so much for you detailed reply. One more thing: which metod should I use? a) convert any IMAP accounts to POP3 b4 install, or: b) delete accounts with IMAP access, and redo them again? Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:19:34 AM, you wrote: MDP Hi Olena, MDP @9-Sep-2003, 22:00 -0600 (05:00 UK time) Olena [O] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: O I read somewhere, that in new ver install IMAP folders will be O converted to POP. MDP Not quite. Before installing v2, *you* should convert any IMAP MDP accounts to POP3. O IS there then a way to convert them back? MDP No. The new IMAP handling is completely incompatible. O Or I'll have to delete accounts with IMAP access, and redo them O again? MDP Yes. -- Best regards, Olenamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: IMAP converted to POP on install.)
Hi Olena, @10-Sep-2003, 21:34 -0600 (04:34 UK time) Olena [O] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP Not quite. Before installing v2, *you* should convert any IMAP MDP accounts to POP3. O One more thing: which metod should I use? Oa) convert any IMAP accounts to POP3 b4 install, or: Yes - to preserve the messages. Unless you don't them anymore, in which case... Ob) delete accounts with IMAP access, and redo them again? ... is fine. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Olena. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Anne Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:35:01 PM, you wrote: A Allie and Vishal, A Over on TBBETA Marek has just advised Melvyn who has this same A problem to try using the Scheduler to do the auto downloading and A Melvyn tried it and he says it worked. Perhaps if Vishal tries A this also and then lets Marek know - he's doing some kind of A feedback for devs about this. Thanks a lot Anne! I'll try it out and let you know. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: IMAP converted to POP on install.)
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:41:03 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Olena, MDP This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. MDP Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your MDP message and following it with all quoted text below, is not MDP encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list MDP Thank you. MDP /moderator Opps, sorry! : Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
11-Sep-2003 00:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. An access violation in Ntdll.dll sounds pretty serious. I don't remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this file from the CAB files? ...and don't forget to install ServicePack6a again. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re-filtering
for some reason when using re-filter for my inbox it will not filter all the messages that need filtering. it will filter all but only process 13 or 19 and i have to keep re filtering it. currently using 2.00.6 but it has been occurring with all versions i use. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
