Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Anne, Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-( It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is it? That's the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Anne, You wrote: Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-( Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost. Is yours set to localhost? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Yes Miguel, I changed all timeouts in MyGate to 30 and it's made no difference :-( Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. Are you using any kind of firewall? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello Allie, Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions. Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time when you can say that a particular version contains features that have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged. You are probably right in regards to TB, that is probably why I am still on 1.62i and didn't even jump to 1.62r. My stability meter (quite subjective, BTW) hasn't advised this jump yet :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: RSS Feeds via IMAP
Hi Allen, On Thursday, September 11, 2003 at 11:29 PM, Allen wrote: I imagine this is some thing we should take OT but, I will say that I do use it, and with reasonable success. TB! 2's IMAP support to be thanks, it's quite nice. My only complaint would be [and here's where it starts to fall notably OT] that its updates are a bit slower than they would be if you were using a regular aggregator. I like having it in TB, though, so I stick with it. -- You might want to check your sig delimiter. It's missing the space after the --. I should have been more specific. I was wondering if The Bat had any issues with it, but I can see from your post that it is working fine for you. Thanks for responding. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Education License
Hi, Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a Personal one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing ritlabs at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. Thanks. Cheers, Alan. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Mark, MW While we're on the subject, how about Folder | Maintenance | Check MW Integrity/Repair? That's cleared up some stuff for me before. tryed it. All folders: 'nothing to do'. I think I will try with a fresh installation when I have a moment of time -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Education License
Alan, On 12-09-2003 09:48, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a A Personal one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing ritlabs A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. I have done that _3_ times as well without any reply! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment problems with V2
Hello I discovered that there are 2 attachment problems with The Bat version 2. They are making me crazy... Note that I have a lot of different accounts. 1) OLD ACCOUNTS (CONVERTED IN THE PAST FROM .MSB FILES WITH THE BAT) With version 1.62r, I have no problems and I can see these attachments. But with version 2, I cannot even see their icons. This remind me an old bug of version 1.XX that was solved in the past. This bug appeared when you: - Changed account name via Account\Properties\Name - Then when you click on any letter with attachment - attachment mark disappear and you cannot access your attachment until you will change account name to the original one and click on letter again. For example, look at this header: X-BAT-FILES: C:\PROGRAM FILES\THE BAT!\MAIL\nick\Attach\Plans2.doc I can access this attachment with 1.62r even if the attachment is anymore on this very old location (the original location). But with version 2, I cannot see anymore it. 2) NEW ACCOUNTS Here the problem is that the size of almost all my attachments is now 0. I can see the icon of the documents but when I open them, they are empty. I start again V1.62r (I renamed the EXE) then I can open these attachments. The strange thing is that I don't have this bug with all my accounts but only on someone. I tried to open the same word document attached to a recent mail: - When I open it with V1.62r, it works and the document is opened at its real adress which is: G:\Mes documents\mail\old (juin 02 - juil 03)\Attach\enregistrement.doc - But when I try to open the same attachment with V2, I don't know why it try to open my temp directory which is on another disk: E:\temp\bat\1C1E9831.doc And here obviously the document is not present. Please help me because I really don't know how to solve. Note also that there is apparently no relation between these 2 bugs at the manner I store attachments. For some account, I keep attachment files in a separate account and on other accounts they are inbodies. But the 2 bugs appear in all the case. Thank you very much for your help Carlo Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Made a backup copy, uninstalled the bat completely including registry key's, removed folder and did fresh install of v2. On the first run it startet with the AV, but could go on. After restoring all my folders all is working again, but I still have the same problem. Am I the only one with Thebat v2 on winNT ? Of course I can start v1.62 if I wants to do something in my account properties, but that seems not a good workaround :( And also what happens if the 30 day evaluate period is expired for the old version. Will it stop working ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
URL not clickable
Hi Bat! Fans, In some mail I receive, the URL is not showing highlighted (ie clickable) which it was in 1.62r For instance:- SWEDEN IN SHOCK AFTER STABBING SWEDEN was in a state of emotional shock after its foreign minister, Anna Lindh, died overnight from knife injuries inflicted by an unknown assailant just days before a key referendum on adopting the euro. http://email.news.com.au/ct/click?q=8f-OO8vQ8KnwfVCCjt7v9vTtnC3 Manhunt for Anna Lindh's killer http://email.news.com.au/ct/click?q=a4-HGtsQ6pSfX_5wlE26H83vO5j (Note now appearing highlighted above which they do if cut paste, or selected by F4 for a reply) Any clues at all? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Farewell, friend. I was 1000 times more evil than thou. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow Downloading of Messages
Hi all, For the last couple of weeks, I have noticed that it takes much, much longer to download my messages with the Bat than usual. It's gotten so bad that I assumed that it might be a problem with my mail server, and not the Bat. However, today, after receiving a reply from the tech support department of my mail server provider, and testing out the info they sent to me, it seems that their servers are not the problem. Now I'm not sure what to do. The situation is this: I always check my messages on the server before downloading them. Getting the messages listed in Control Centre is not a problem. Those list rather quickly, and seem to be nothing out of the ordinary. However, when downloading those messages (and deleting them from the server), I am experiencing very slow downloads, and 100% processor usage. The 100% usage in itself wouldn't be that big a deal, except that due to the slow downloads, my CPU is at 100% usage for several minutes at a time, which causes the temperature of my laptop to rise from about 48C to about 75C, until the download is done. After that, the temperature returns to normal. I also tried this with another e-mail program that I have on my computer (Pocomail), and discovered the same problem occurs, and worse with Poco. I also tried downloading several messages from a different mail server on a different account (after letting the messages on that account build up to about 50 on the server), and the download time was much faster with that one (it was my ISP's mail server). Naturally then, I assumed that the problem was with my mail server (This problem occurs on my main two e-mail accounts, and both of those mail servers come from the same provider, a service I pay for by the year). So I contacted their tech support. I received a reply this morning, and was told that they tried connecting to my mail server with Outlook Express and had no problems at all. I honestly hadn't tried Outlook Express (because I hate it), but it is on my computer, so I put this account in it, and downloaded the messages on the server (36 messages total). The entire download process for Outlook Express took about 10 seconds. The *same* download process in the Bat took 2 minutes and 28 seconds. Now I'm wondering what in the world is causing such a slowdown in the Bat. Could the problem be with one of the settings in the Bat? Is there some setting I can change to improve download speeds? This problem is annoying me to no end (especially when I have like 100 messages on the server, which take like 6 or 7 minutes to download). Why on earth would Outlook Express be able to download messages so much faster? It just doesn't make sense. I am using version 2.00.6 (Personal Edition) of the Bat. I am running Windows XP Home, and my laptop has a P4 1.8 ghz processor. I have a cable Internet connection. I have my computer set up on a wireless network, and use a router. This problem with slow downloads has only been present for the last couple of weeks, so I don't think the network or router is a problem. My husband who is also on the network also uses the Bat and doesn't seem to have this issue, however, he does not receive the volume of mail that I do, and the problem is barely noticeable with less than 10 messages on the server (which is as many as he gets on his machine at one time). Thanks in advance for your help. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Education License
Hi Alan, on Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:48:21 +0100GMT (12.09.03, 09:48 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AJ Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a AJ Personal one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing ritlabs at AJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. I used the same address successfully. Maybe it is only a matter of time... -- Cheers Peter Of course I know what I'm doing! Now gimme that magnet! ~~ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Downloading of Messages
Kim, [K] wrote: K I always check my messages on the server before downloading them. K Getting the messages listed in Control Centre is not a problem. Those K list rather quickly, and seem to be nothing out of the ordinary. K However, when downloading those messages (and deleting them from the K server), I am experiencing very slow downloads, and 100% processor K usage. The 100% usage in itself wouldn't be that big a deal, except K that due to the slow downloads, my CPU is at 100% usage for several K minutes at a time, This could likely be as a result of one of two things: - your inbox folder needs to be compressed - your antivirus programs mail checking is creating a slow down. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: RSS Feeds via IMAP
Terry, T You might want to check your sig delimiter. It's missing the space T after the --. Is there some special syntax I need to use in the template? Because there's a space in there . . . just a plain-Jane old space. But when I compose the message the template lays out all of the black text but that little whitespace isn't there. It's not there in this message either, but I JUST checked my templates . . . T I should have been more specific. I was wondering if The Bat had any T issues with it, but I can see from your post that it is working fine T for you. Thanks for responding. Yep, working fine for me -- glad to help. -- | Peace, Be well | Allen | | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/The%20Lonely%20Tower/echo%20night.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, Some question just came up. After the fresh install TB it was not an unregistered version. does this means that the registry was NOT cleaned with the uninstall ?? (so another bug ?) If this is true then I should again try again ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hi Roelof Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:56:44 AM, you wrote: RO The ZoneAlarm thread you were mentioning had lots of separate branches RO that kept going on. Since they all started with the same thread, shouldn't they have had a common root though? Or does all the Re[2]: business spoil things somehow? Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Broken threads and general threading question
Hi Jonathan Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 12:36:54 AM, you wrote: JA Is there a common thread as to who is sending them, or is it a bunch JA of people? A bunch of people. JA Is there a common thread amongst them? Yes, several. One was the Zonealarm thread that I started, but the problem seems to exist with most other threads too. Subject threading helps matters enormously though. References just doesn't seem to work. JA Is just one example, however that email has a few References, and an JA In-Reply-To. So it'd appear TB is breaking threading somewhere. Yes, I'd agree with that. JA Although, a real oddity, I changed threading to subject (which is JA broken as has been pointed out a few times), then back to references, JA the threads _nearly_ built themselves correctly, however it is now JA showing a whole bunch of emails as replied to, though I didn't, and it JA keeps loading the wrong emails when I select them. *investigates some JA more* Very odd. It does look like TB's getting confused somewhere. Hopefully I'm wrong :) Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hi Julian Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:44:58 AM, you wrote: JBL I checked the references on the broken threads that I have, and found JBL that I no longer had the messages with the MID: in my message base, JBL because they had purged. As I use a maximum limit of 200 messages for JBL deletion purposes, and the list has been generating lots of traffic JBL recently, I have had lots of broken threads because the earlier JBL messages in threads are being lost. Well, how does that explain how 1.62r handled these issues perfectly most of the time? I use much the same system as you, and having the original root deleted never messed things up before. JBL YMMV, of course! Sure looks like it :) Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Allie Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 8:34:32 PM, you wrote: AM I'm wondering if it's ZA at all. :/ You're right..it's not. I posted earlier that automatic checks don't work even with no firewall in place. AM What other software are you running. Are you running anti-virus software AM that does POP3 scanning? Symantec Antivirus version 8. As of yesterday, BlackICE PC Protection 3.6. AM Any TB! plug-ins? No. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Hi Thomas Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 2:38:04 PM, you wrote: TF The internet was designed for plain-text emails only. MIME attachments TF (allowing HTML) was added much later and under much protest. Check it TF out on the internet. The internet was not designed *for* email at all. The ARPANET, its predecessor, was meant to be a US DoD network that could survive a nuclear attack. If you mean that the initial conception did not involve MIME etc., then that's correct. But claiming that it was designed specifically for plaintext email isn't correct. It was SMTP that was designed with support for only 7-bit ASCII in mind. Was that what you meant? TF It always amazes me that many people think the internet was invented TF by Outlook or AOL 6 or Al Gore... Internet invented by outlook? I must meet this person :) Gore, on the other hand, seems to have actively perpetuated that myth himself during the time he stood for election. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Julian Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 3:31:34 AM, you wrote: JBL Is it something to do with the settings under Options|Network and JBL Administration. I thought of that. But I don't see how there could be. There's only one option when you're on a permanent connection as I am. Nothing further to choose at all. The administration options wouldn't be relevant here regardless. JBL, I am using the Network JBL Connection option, so the options are greyed out. Same here. Thanks though..can you think of anything else? Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Allie Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:53:11 AM, you wrote: AM When I say the formatting is preserved, I mean that the line breaks are AM preserved etc. Agreed. That helps. AM Try using the alternative editor. If you use it, while AM composing, your message will be nicely wrapped at your editor defined AM setting. In actual fact the text isn't wrapped at all and the recipient AM receives unwrapped text. Now *that* is a gross disparity in perceived AM formatting as opposed to what the recipient receives. No matter which AM font your recipient uses, they'll never see the message the way you did AM before hitting 'send'. Yep, I've always hated that problem too. And it's not only confined to email clients. V I've had problems with this. And since a number of people reading my V mail use HTML viewing, and therefore usually not Courier or other V fixed-width fonts, I can't be guaranteed that anything I send them V will look identical on their machine. AM It need not look *identical* in the majority of instances. Proportional fonts could accomplish that equally well, I suppose, if hard line breaks were put in like in MicroEd. Plus they'd look better at my end. AM For example, say I wish to split a quoted paragraph into two and reply AM to each part separately. I reflow the paragraph, split it into two, AM separate the parts so that I can insert my own text, reflow the second AM part of the paragraph and then have the cursor in position to start AM typing. With the use of a PowerPro macro, I achieve all of that with a AM single keyboard macro triggered by hitting Alt-D. Nice. I wish there were some way to do this in TB itself. I'm rather against the idea of installing another piece of software. AM For each signature template (for me these are kept as quick templates), AM I include the '%issignature' macro. What this macro does, is to delete AM all text below the signature delimiter in the editor, and replace it AM with the output of the quick template. In effect, you delete one AM signature and replace it with another. Remember that you can add AM anything to the template, so often, doing this not only changes my AM signature, but also changes my From name/address, whether the message AM should be signed or not etc. AM So I may typing a message and decide to change signatures, I then type AM the quick template handle and then hit CTRL+spacebar. Voila .. new AM signature appears. Many thanks. I'll certainly use this now. AM Quoting the clipboard contents quotes without quoting blank lines AM between paragraphs. AM Using the 'Paste as Quotation' option in the editor, leads to blank AM lines between paragraphs being quoted. Hmm..I never knew that. I've never used the paste from clipboard option, though, but this will be good to keep in mind. AM The blue button moves to the next and previous AM message in the message list. The red buttons do the same, however the AM previously viewed message is deleted. Yes, I know that. What I meant is that it's never clear what 'next' and 'previous' mean in different contexts. Depending on how your messages are sorted, they could mean anything. Delete and move to next could be disastrous here, which is why I never keep the main window out of sight. By the way, Eudora also supports viewing messages in two windows. If I recall correctly, so does Outlook Express. It's nothing unusual in the TB. V Interesting again. When you say virtual folder, you don't actually V mean a folder somewhere in the account tree do you? AM No. Though the ticker messages have been filtered to their various AM folders, opening the ticker virtual folder, What do you mean by opening the ticker virtual folder? Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello John, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:43:32 +1000 GMT (12/09/2003, 17:43 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: In some mail I receive, the URL is not showing highlighted (ie clickable) which it was in 1.62r For instance:- [...] Any clues at all? No, they highlight fine here and are clickable. URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com or when they are surrounded by square brackets: [http://www.com] I think they should, though. Triangular brackets or parenthesis are fine: http://www.com (http://www.com) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A bycicle can't stand on its own, because it's two-tired. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Specials - Mailing List
Hello Pixie, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:47:06 -0400 GMT (12/09/2003, 18:47 +0700 GMT), Pixie wrote: Let's see, well first I'll describe my layout.. - Assorted accounts.. Same here - 'Default Account (NOT used for this list) Same here - common folder TBUDL w/o any templates Not same here. Why would you filter TBUDL into a common folder and not into a folder in the account with which you have subscribed? In this case, I would think TB even behaves correctly. Common folders don't belong to any account, so the default account will be chosen. And apparently, mailing list headers override AB templates. All is fine. We have found the reason. You should have the TBUDL folder belong to an account. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My operat~1 system unders~1 long filena~1, does yours? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Education License
Friday, September 12, 2003, 12:12:50 PM, you wrote: Hi Alan, on Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:48:21 +0100GMT (12.09.03, 09:48 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AJ Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a AJ Personal one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing ritlabs at AJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. I used the same address successfully. Maybe it is only a matter of time... Ok, thanks. Cheers, Alan. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: RSS Feeds via IMAP
Hi Allen, On Friday, September 12, 2003 at 12:46 PM, Allen wrote: Is there some special syntax I need to use in the template? Because there's a space in there . . . just a plain-Jane old space. But when I compose the message the template lays out all of the black text but that little whitespace isn't there. It's not there in this message either, but I JUST checked my templates . . . No special syntax is needed, AFAIK, just a -- (without the quotes). I don't know what you did, but there is a space there now and it worked just fine. :) -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RSS Feeds via IMAP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allen, Friday, September 12, 2003, 12:46:41 PM, you wrote: T You might want to check your sig delimiter. It's missing the space T after the --. A Is there some special syntax I need to use in the template? Because A there's a space in there . . . just a plain-Jane old space. But when A I compose the message the template lays out all of the black text but A that little whitespace isn't there. It's not there in this message A either, but I JUST checked my templates . . . ... I think it is! It's okay now. :-) M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2HP2lv+PP8p0/caEQIT4ACeIac9l6vP/+pbCM465W0cyIrBTJgAn0jJ 4MtMZtctcIyjOupO0gctMovO =fu3a -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
12-Sep-2003 15:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com They do here, with v1. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Little arrow button Create a new message
Hello tbudl, A question of minor importance: I wonder why in version 2 the button Create a new message has a little arrow too. The other arrows (get new and send queued mail) show all accounts. But this one? Just decoration? Or maybe for another purpose I don't know..? -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Little arrow button Create a new message
Hello Jos, Friday, September 12, 2003, 10:49:50 AM, Jos Klaassens wrote: JK Hello tbudl, JK A question of minor importance: I wonder why in version 2 the button JK Create a new message has a little arrow too. JK The other arrows (get new and send queued mail) show all accounts. JK But this one? Just decoration? Or maybe for another purpose I don't JK know..? That's a pop up menu for favorites. In your address book, select a name, then click on the other tab and you will see the option. -- ° Best Regards, ° Chris ° ° ° Christopher A. LaFond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lafond.us Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Little arrow button Create a new message
Hello Jos Klaassens, Jos Klaassens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Friday, September 12, 2003 at 4:49:50 PM JK Hello tbudl, JK A question of minor importance: I wonder why in version 2 the button JK Create a new message has a little arrow too. JK The other arrows (get new and send queued mail) show all accounts. JK But this one? Just decoration? Or maybe for another purpose I don't JK know..? This arrow is used if you have group addresses in which you tell The Bat! to use a group specific template on creating a new message. If you have such a group address together with a specific template those groups will be listed when you click on the little arrow best regards, Rene -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Little arrow button Create a new message
Hello Jos, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:49:50 +0200 GMT (12/09/2003, 21:49 +0700 GMT), Jos Klaassens wrote: A question of minor importance: I wonder why in version 2 the button Create a new message has a little arrow too. This is not new to v2. Mark any contacts in your addressbook as favourites, and they will appear when you hit that button. I use it a lot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Alexander, URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com They do here, with v1. They don't here with 1.62i -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, at 20:00:14 [GMT +0700] (which was 23:00 where I live) you wrote: No, they highlight fine here and are clickable. URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com or when they are surrounded by square brackets: [http://www.com] I think they should, though. They were exactly as I quoted (but ~not~ highlighted), in a plain text document. (with no HTML option). As I said earlier, fine in 1.62r. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Its not a bug, its an undocumented feature. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
On Friday, September 12, 2003, 17:05:27, MAU wrote: They do here, with v1. They don't here with 1.62i You're both right. Rich Text Viewer makes the links clickable all the time, while the normal viewer only underlines the links outside comment lines. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ After you've mailed your last card, you will receive a card from someone you've overlooked. -- Miller's Christmas Card Rule Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
12-Sep-2003 17:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.com versus http://www.com They do here, with v1. They don't here with 1.62i A reason for you to update to 1.62r eventually? ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello MAU, On 12 Sep 2003 at 17:05:27 +0200 GMT [17:05 CEST] you wrote: URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com They do here, with v1. M They don't here with 1.62i It depends on what viewer you use. -- Cheers, Andre Es gibt zwei Tragödien im Leben: Die eine, daß Dir Dein Herzenswunsch nicht erfüllt wird, die andere, daß er es wird. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Little arrow button Create a new message
Hello Thomas, Friday, September 12, 2003, 5:00:32 PM, you wrote: A question of minor importance: I wonder why in version 2 the button Create a new message has a little arrow too. TF This is not new to v2. Mark any contacts in your addressbook as TF favourites, and they will appear when you hit that button. I use it TF a lot. Thanks to all of you for your replies. In the future I shall use this feature a lot. I use TB since version 1.49 and never noticed this before g. -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: URL not clickable
Hello MAU, Friday, September 12, 2003, 11:05:27 AM, you wrote: M Hello Alexander, URLs don't highlight when the are in a quioted line: http://www.com versus http://www.com They do here, with v1. M They don't here with 1.62i They do here with 1.62r -- mmmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 12, 2003 12:50:16 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: HTML as default on v2.00 ...? Greetings MAU, On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:13:30 AM, you wrote: MAU As you may have read a few days ago in a thread with subject My new 20 MAU lines filter, you better start your text before line 20 or I will not MAU read any of your messages (provided you care at all if I read them or MAU not) ;-) Ahh well. I don't feel the need to format my messages based on your criteria. I quote what I feel is necessary to clearly represent the thread and the basis of my reply. Sorry. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. You're only young once; you can be immature f'ever. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2IIebwi09Hs/j+VEQKEYgCg+S9OkWEpsuNC+zUlgZ3q/Lkro3EAn0WE q5Chd2Zg1Uigi+wR9Y72r7aQ =x4Gf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Andre, It depends on what viewer you use. You are very right. I have always used and use the FWFV and forget there is another viewer. I guess it must be that I never felt much need for the RTV ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Alexander, A reason for you to update to 1.62r eventually? ;-) I need a much bigger incentive to make that huge jump ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Hello DG, Ahh well. I don't feel the need to format my messages based on your criteria. 'Course DG! :) I quote what I feel is necessary to clearly represent the thread and the basis of my reply. 'Course again DG! But it is not just the quoted lines that add up :)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection times out
Hi Marck, Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 10:33:54 AM, you wrote: Hi Alexander, @9-Sep-2003, 06:57 +0200 (05:57 UK time) Alexander [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Doug: ... or are you using a local spam-catching proxy that times out? Opening the mail dispatcher to sort it out manually on the server. A So it sounds like the connection to the server times out. ... ... or the RAS/DUN connection hits its inactivity timer limit. We're on 1 mb broadband though. She uses uk2.net to pick up her email. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
* malexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a firewall. How do you define »firewall«? I assume you mean host based packet filters. Just a point I wanted to make then, they are right. Sorry, but you're leaving yourself open if you don't use at least a software firewall, even with a dial-up. FUD. I have dial-up ISDN, and anyone who thinks they won't get attacked if they have a dial-up connection is welcome to look at some of the logs from my Outpost firewall. FUD. But OK, show us your logs. It doesn't take very long for someone to grab a port and do some damage. FUD². So, if you've got dial-up, still get the firewall and be safe. You forgot to explain *how* someone »grabs a port and does some damage«. I use a notebook and dial-up connections to the internet. Please tell my why *I* need a software like Outpost to be safe. But, please, don't reply to this list as this has nothing to do with The Bat! and traffic is high enough these days. - tbot -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
12-Sep-2003 20:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to explain *how* someone »grabs a port and does some damage«. I use a notebook and dial-up connections to the internet. Please tell my why *I* need a software like Outpost to be safe. Blaster/LovSan tells you. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:02:15 AM, MAU wrote: M Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher M number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout. M Are you using any kind of firewall? Yes ZAPro 4. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 6:55:45 AM, Clive wrote: CT It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is CT it? That's the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see. No the news server is my ISP's and to connect to it all I have to do is connect on that dialup - the dialup auth lets me use the news server then with no extra auth needed. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:51:10 AM, Terry wrote: T Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in T TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost. Is yours set to T localhost? I tried it both ways Terry - it won't work with either 127.0.0.1 or localhost :-( Thanks for the suggestion though. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Friday, September 12, 2003, 2:00:14 PM, Thomas wrote: TF URLs don't highlight when the are in a quoted line: TF http://www.com versus http://www.com TF or when they are surrounded by square brackets: TF [http://www.com] But if they aren't clickable you can still highlight them and use the right mouse click menu and use the Open URL option to open the webpage... this seems to work on all URL's however they are presented in a message. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Downloading of Messages
Friday, September 12, 2003, 12:01:53 PM, Kim wrote: K For the last couple of weeks, I have noticed that it takes much, much K longer to download my messages with the Bat than usual. Kim, try using the Maintenance under the Folder menu... then click the select all button and tick the Compress option at the bottom. This will go thrugh all your folders and recover any dead space left behind as a result of deleted messages etc... it will mean the folders are optimised and will open faster and should also improve the mail download handling for you. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Greetings, Sometimes, when seeking a message, a search term I would use is just too common, so a Boolean AND strategy is necessary. I know I can search the results of a preliminary search by copying all those prelim results into a special folder, and then searching *that* special results folder. Is there a better way? -- Best regards, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
On Friday, September 12, 2003, 21:54:52, David R. Austen wrote: Sometimes, when seeking a message, a search term I would use is just too common, so a Boolean AND strategy is necessary. Use for AND and | for OR. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. -- Colson's Law Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hello, Jernej: What a great tip. That's excellent news, that Boolean works here. I know only one way to store ideas like these (within Bat) for future reference. How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to annotate.) Friday, September 12, 2003, we wrote: a Boolean AND strategy is necessary. JS Use for AND and | for OR. -- Best wishes, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, M Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher M number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout. Then, forget it. M Are you using any kind of firewall? Yes ZAPro 4. That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hello David, Friday, September 12, 2003, 2:19:31 PM, you wrote: DRA What a great tip. That's excellent news, that Boolean works here. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out David. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hi Anne, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, at 18:44:28 [GMT +0100] (which was 03:44 where I live) you wrote: But if they aren't clickable you can still highlight them and use the right mouse click menu and use the Open URL option to open the webpage... this seems to work on all URL's however they are presented in a message. This is painful of course. I also switched to the rich text viewer (could hardly afford it with a name like that!), shut down started Bat! again, but still not clickable! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Downloading of Messages
Hi Allie, Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:23:03 AM, you wrote: This could likely be as a result of one of two things: - your inbox folder needs to be compressed - your antivirus programs mail checking is creating a slow down. Thanks for your reply. My inbox folder is already compressed on a regular basis, as I have it set to compress each time I close the Bat. I did run compression in Maintenance just in case, but received the report that it had nothing to do when running compression (since those mailbox folders were already compressed). I do have Kaspersky Antivirus running, and I know it scans my mail, however, if that's the problem, why is it only causing a problem with these two e-mail accounts, and not my other ones? I've had Kaspersky running for the last two or three years, and this problem only started recently. What else could it be? Thanks again for the help. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Downloading of Messages
Hi Anne, Friday, September 12, 2003, 1:50:05 PM, you wrote: Kim, try using the Maintenance under the Folder menu... then click the select all button and tick the Compress option at the bottom. This will go thrugh all your folders and recover any dead space left behind as a result of deleted messages etc... it will mean the folders are optimised and will open faster and should also improve the mail download handling for you. Thanks for your reply. I ran Maintenance, but received the report that it had nothing to do when compressing these folders (since I already have them set to compress each time I close the Bat). I also have trash set to empty each time I close the Bat as well. What else could be causing the problem? Thanks again for your help. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
On Friday, September 12, 2003 at 16:19:31 GMT -0400 (which was 1:19 PM where I live) Austen Hello, Jernej: snip Austen How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to Austen annotate.) I find the freeware program KeyNote excellent for note keeping. You can find it at: http://www.tranglos.com/free/index.html -- ... Hugh Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 and Opera 7.20 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hi David, Friday, September 12, 2003, 4:19:31 PM, you wrote: DRA How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to DRA annotate.) My strategy is to use the color group capability (Message / Colour Group), and I also park such messages. I have defined a color group called TIPS, which is of course the color group I choose. Periodically I move those messages to a separate folder called TIPS from TBUDL. Though I haven't done it yet, I should probably define a Read Message filter and use that to do everything all at once. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hello David, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to annotate.) F6 and store them in Smartbat. A very useful little utility. I only have 8 separate note pages at the moment. Not sure what the limit is though. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hello Richard, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to annotate.) F6 and store them in Smartbat. A very useful little utility. I only have 8 separate note pages at the moment. Not sure what the limit is though. Ignore that. Posted without really thinking about the thread. Sorry all! -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Anne Thursday, September 11, 2003, 10:28:36 PM, you wrote: A Daniel also on TBBETA is using Win 2000 +Service Pack 4 Build A 2195 and his auto checking is working fine... s. the next A question is... what Service Pack/s have you installed with your Win A 2000? If it's SP3 then perhaps installing SP4 will resolve the A problem? Unfortunately I have the same - SP4 build 2195. Is Daniel using v2 or some beta? Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hello Alexander, Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:44:17 PM, you wrote: A 12-Sep-2003 20:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to explain *how* someone »grabs a port and does some damage«. I use a notebook and dial-up connections to the internet. Please tell my why *I* need a software like Outpost to be safe. A Blaster/LovSan tells you. Precisely. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hello Vishal, Friday, September 12, 2003, 6:31:56 PM, you wrote: Unfortunately I have the same - SP4 build 2195. Is Daniel using v2 or some beta? v2.00.6 -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing the source
I just changed my OS and have The Bat happily up and running again after a few headaches), but now the source info shows in the message pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can someone please direct me? Thanks in advance! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows 98se-- no, make that XP 9/12/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing the source
On Friday, September 12, 2003 @ 4:18:12 PM [-0700], P.Johnson wrote: I just changed my OS and have The Bat happily up and running again after a few headaches), but now the source info shows in the message pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can someone please direct me? Source info? Do you mean the e-mail headers? If so, hit shift+ctl+k to enable/disable. -- Matt Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing the source
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote: PJ I just changed my OS and have The Bat happily up and running again PJ after a few headaches), but now the source info shows in the message PJ pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can PJ someone please direct me? I presume you mean the mail headers? If so, try the View menu and un-check RFC-822 headers. PJ -- PJ Pat BTW, you need a space after the --; i.e. -- to display signatures correctly. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2JX+Fv+PP8p0/caEQI7vQCbBY0DPvNIjThiFZ6UPyPzZ2eiT6gAnjR7 QWenB/uOc0qGtrkI3DESbkcU =1lIH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Anne, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:44:28 +0100 GMT (13/09/2003, 00:44 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: TF [http://www.com] But if they aren't clickable you can still highlight them and use the right mouse click menu and use the Open URL option to open the webpage... this seems to work on all URL's however they are presented in a message. Doesn't work here on the above URL. Using PTV. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you breath, you inspire. When you do not breath, you expire. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Viewing the source
Hello Martin and Matt, On Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M Saturday, September 13, 2003, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote: PJ the source info shows in the message PJ pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can PJ someone please direct me? M I presume you mean the mail headers? If so, try the View menu and M un-check RFC-822 headers. Yes I guess I did mean the mail headers-- and thank you, unchecking in the View menu or toggling shift+ctl+k eliminates them. M BTW, you need a space after the --; i.e. -- to display signatures M correctly. I don't know why the sig is different now. I'll try and change it! Thank you for the heads up. Best wishes, -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/12/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Anne Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:35:01 PM, you wrote: A Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:34:32 AM, Allie wrote: AM I'm wondering if it's ZA at all. :/ A Allie and Vishal, A Over on TBBETA Marek has just advised Melvyn who has this same A problem to try using the Scheduler to do the auto downloading and A Melvyn tried it and he says it worked. Update - it worked for me too! Thank you VERY much Anne..this problem has plagued me for as long as I can remember :) Here's a reason for people to upgrade to version 2 - ladies and gentlemen..please welcome..the scheduler! Now there's something for the developers to ponder over..scheduler working but regular automatic checking not? Also, as a reminder to them (in case they're following this thread), it's not that my firewall (ZA, BlackICE, whatever) blocked the connections. The logs show that the attemtps to connect were never made. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Anne Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:35:01 PM, you wrote: A Perhaps if Vishal tries A this also and then lets Marek know - he's doing some kind of A feedback for devs about this. How do I let Marek know? Do you think you could forward the mail I just sent about it working? I'd really like the developers to know. Thanks! Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hello All: I use the bat 1.62,zone alarm (#4 engine build029) AVG 7.0 (still canot make it work with the bat,yes I have tried kaspersky just now getting back up will never use this product again) McAfee 7 pro. Seems to me if you go into msconf and 'kill' the task manger on bootup and tell zonealarm to allow access all the time for the bat it will work. I am also using netpal and cookiepal no problem with them. As much as I have ben reading here about the bat 2.0 seems REAL BUGGY!!! (like b.gates pushing his lateest O.S.)is it worth it or just stay with 1.62 until the bugs are gone?? This is one of the GREATEST e-mail programs ever (peguas just plain sucks) is there any way to get it to work with hotmail accounts or am I just limited to using McAfee spamkiller?? -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi icem2 Friday, September 12, 2003, 11:47:51 PM, you wrote: i Seems to me if you go into msconf and 'kill' the task manger on bootup How does killing the task manager help, exactly? And do you mean msconfig? i and tell zonealarm to allow access all the time for the bat it will i work. I'd done this before. Didn't do the kill task manager bit though.. i it to work with hotmail accounts Try web2pop. Works for me. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hi malexander Thursday, September 11, 2003, 10:58:32 PM, you wrote: m Hi m Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where m people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a m firewall. I made a comment to that effect..that if these firewall problems went on any longer I might have to shift to dialup to rid myself of the bother. Is that what you're referring to? m Sorry, but you're leaving yourself open if you don't use at least a m software firewall, even with a dial-up. Open to the possibility - yes. Vulnerable - no, if your pattern of behavior is like the following: - You don't stay online very long: This is the primary reason DSL/Cable users are at risk. If you're online for a long time you become a much more attractive target. Even if scripts are used, your chances of being cracked are much less if you're on dialup, simply because you may terminate your connection at any time and have no fixed IP to attack. If you stay online for 8 hours at a time, then sure you're at risk. How many dialup users do that though? - You stay up to date with all security patches for your OS. - You run a frequently updated antivirus. - You take sensible precautions such as not opening suspicious attachments. ABlaster/LovSan tells you. Blaster and its variants spread initially via an email attachment. If you didn't click on it you were safe. Infected hosts attempted to spread to other hosts via a DCOM RPC vulnerability that MS had released a patch for a long time ago. If you were up to date with the patches, there is no way a dialup user would have been infected. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: AVG plug in
Hello Spike, Actually it depends on the digital sign used. If a thawte or Verisign digital signature is used it means the sender took the time to enter his/her password and send from his client. That is the purpose of such devices. So long as it must be entered when the email is sent and for each it should be valid and as such does mean that the sender is legitimate and using proper keys. Now in The bat I should think that would be even better. Unfortunately there are those keyboard capture virus/trojans out there ,however, I am pretty sure those would not work on the passwords entered for Certs because not only the key presses are needed. Also the mapping keys. The Bat should nicely handle that! I have to say if every email was authenticated and every IP address we would have a lot less hacker problems in general! Imagine every IP traceable to a digital cert owner all traffic accountable and thereby safer by Id-ing each and every IP address. Firewalls could then handle abuse rather than waste time with it. Monday, March 3, 2003, 2:52:15 PM, you wrote: S Hello Deborah W, S On or about Monday, March 03, 2003 at 18:33:13GMT + (which was S 1:33 PM in the tropics where I live) Deborah W posted: DW Certification of emails doesn't make them more secure anyway, doesn't DW prove anything much, so I wouldn't worry about it :-) S 30% of the virus files I get say something about being 'certified S virus free' or similar. It's a non-issue. Anti-virus is an issue for S the receiver. Most virus senders are clueless individuals to start S with. If you can put two or three coherent sentences together, you're S not part of the problem! -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
