Hiding standart folders (while using MyGate NEWS gate)
Hello Batmans! Is it possibly to hide Inbox, Outbox, Trash, Inbox_Known, Sent Mail ? I'm using NEWS gate for The Bat, so I've created several accounts for that Gate and standart folder seems to be useless and annoying Your sincerely registered, Sasha. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable To Register V2
Hi folks, I have recently upgraded my personal copy of V1.62 to V2 and have received my TB Key and Checksum from The Bat! Team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] however when I enter the key and checksum and my password into the relevant boxes in the register window I am told that the password is incorrect for the key used although I am 99% sure that it isn't. In case it's relevant (and it may well be) I purchased the software through the Ritlabs website and received my confirmation e-mail from Cifnet. I tried in vain to find the relevant support contact channel with which to take my query but have been unable to find it (at least through the Ritlabs website so my last resort was to send my query to the same people that sent me my key (address above) although I expect all mail from that account is automatically generated and therefore my mail will go unread. Anyone have any ideas what I can do/who I can contact etc? Another question, I recently edited the keyboard shortcuts so that Shift-R marked all messages in the selected folder as read. Then obviously realised that Shift-R is what I use to type capital R. I have since removed that shortcut but still every time I use that key combination I am asked if I want to mark all messages as Read. Very frustrating. I have thoroughly checked the list of keyboard shortcuts and Shift-R doesn't appear anywhere. Many thanks Steve Mulhall CMC Partnership (UK) Ltd The Bat version 1.62r Windows 2000 SP3 Build 2195 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: someone use v2 on NT4?
Wilfried- Monday, September 15, 2003, 1:09:19 PM, you wrote: WM If I develop a new software is is tested on all stable OS. I assume I have to WM downgrade and wait until TB is testet in NT ? if they ever wants to do.. WM The sorry thing is that I have payed for the upgrade :( You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be able to get online fixes or support. NT4 is no longer available for sale through any Microsoft channel. Expecting third-party developers to go out of their way to support an OS that Microsoft itself won't support anymore is asking a bit much. http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Unable To Register V2
Hi Steve, when I enter the key and checksum and my password into the relevant boxes in the register window I am told that the password is incorrect You don't need a password for V2. The easiest way to ensure you are entering the right key and checksum is make sure the email containing these details is open and go to help|registration code. You'll find the details are filled in for you. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Thanks for the response Clive You don't need a password for V2. The easiest way to ensure you are entering the right key and checksum is make sure the email containing these details is open and go to help|registration code. You'll find the details are filled in for you. Tried this but nothing happens i.e. go to Help | Enter Registration Code with the e-mail containing this information open but the relevant fields are not filled in automatically. Then tried manually entering both the key and the checksum i.e. I have tried both cutting and pasting the information from the e-mail and entering manually by hand and leaving the password field blank but again I am told the password is incorrect for the key used. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Invalid HTML
Hi Bat! Fans, Received this message Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EConvertError '108410841084' is not a valid integer value Nothing else. I have Bat! set up to show both text and HTML (in tabs at the bottom of the page), the text tab did not show. However, when I clicked reply to send the error message, I can read all of the text! A quite long regular news mailing from a local newspaper group. Any clues as to this strange behaviour? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Make headlines! Use a corduroy pillow. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Hello Steve, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:00:27 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 15:00 +0700 GMT), Steve Mulhall wrote: Tried this but nothing happens i.e. go to Help | Enter Registration Code with the e-mail containing this information open but the relevant fields are not filled in automatically. Then tried manually entering both the key and the checksum You need to be running v2 when you do this. Your reply here on the list came with v1.62r, so I thought I'd mention it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
I have tried both cutting and pasting the information from the e-mail and entering manually by hand and leaving the password field blank but again I am told the password is incorrect for the key used. I didn't encounter a password request in my personal edition. I only used copy/paste to transfer the Bat Key and Checksum from the registration email. Where are you finding a request to enter a password? The only place I remember a password was while purchasing the upgrade at the actual website. Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Hello Thomas On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, you wrote You need to be running v2 when you do this. Your reply here on the list came with v1.62r, so I thought I'd mention it. I thought his headers indicated 2.1.2. Elaine No entertainment is so cheap as reading, nor any pleasure so lasting. --Lady Mary Wortley Montagu Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Hello Thomas On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, you wrote You need to be running v2 when you do this. Your reply here on the list came with v1.62r, so I thought I'd mention it. I thought his headers indicated 2.1.2. Backtrack! I went to trash, he is not using the upgrade to post. Elaine Where do forest rangers go to get away from it all? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-) Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Invalid HTML
Hallo John, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 17:58:13 +1000GMT (16-9-03, 9:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Any clues as to this strange behaviour? Something in the message made TB puke. Best thing is to forward the message as a mime attachment to Ritlabs together with the error you got. That way the problem might get solved in the next release. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Guys, As you will see I have now sorted this out. In my haste I foolishly thought I could just enter a new V2 registration code directly into my V1.62 and it would be upgraded. WRONG. Back to another question, any ideas how to tell TB that I have removed the keyboard shortcut Shift-R to mark all messages read. The shortcut no longer appears in the edit shortcuts menu window and yet when I press Shift-R I am asked if I want to mark all messages as read. Most frustrating. Thanks for all the help Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding standart folders (while using MyGate NEWS gate)
Hello Alexander, Is it possibly to hide Inbox, Outbox, Trash, Inbox_Known, Sent Mail ? I don't think you can. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
_Finally_ no more HTML:))))
Hello, Just this morning I found out that by going to Option / Preferences / Viewer Editor and turning all options to plain-text I can _finally_ view messages _only_ in txt format!:-D No more cutting off HTML parts, or going to ctrl-tab [I have a few high-school friends who just won't listen to reason:-D]!!! That feature in TB I was waiting _for_ _years_!:-D -- Dejan [aka Sir Jinx!] ICQ#: 179138447 http://wwp.icq.com/179138447 My soul is a private place. -Marlon Brando Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Invalid HTML
Hello all, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote: JP Any clues as to this strange behaviour? Something in the message made TB puke. Best thing is to forward the message as a mime attachment to Ritlabs together with the error you got. That way the problem might get solved in the next release. this problem was already fixed, wait for next version. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Hi Steve, @16-Sep-2003, 09:50 Steve Mulhall [SM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to ETM: SM The shortcut no longer appears in the edit shortcuts menu window SM and yet when I press Shift-R I am asked if I want to mark all SM messages as read. There are multiple Shortcut sets. Bring up the Edit shortcuts dialog in the context in which it is still happening and correct it there. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Invalid HTML
Hi Marek, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, at 11:17:41 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:17 where I live) you wrote: this problem was already fixed, wait for next version. Thanks Roelof Marek for the replies. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Gravity brings me down. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Carsten, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, at 20:13:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 04:13 where I live) you wrote: Then you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: They do (or did) accept a someone@deadspam.com address. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Does Bad FAT mean disk has high cholesterol? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding standart folders (while using MyGate NEWS gate)
16.09.2003, U wrote: Hello Alexander, Is it possibly to hide Inbox, Outbox, Trash, Inbox_Known, Sent Mail ? I don't think you can. I gues U are right :( So after creatin additional NEWS acoounts i've created in my main account. special folder for each subscribed conference and filters and feel myself much happier : Regards, AG Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Jack, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote: JM Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of the menu which I assume applies to selected text? The Close pad I find useful as you can then reopen Pads to edit them further. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable To Register V2
Hello all, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Steve Mulhall wrote: I have recently upgraded my personal copy of V1.62 to V2 and have received my TB Key and Checksum from The Bat! Team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] however when I enter the key and checksum and my password into the relevant boxes in the register window I am told that the password is incorrect for the key used although I am 99% sure that it isn't. In case it's relevant (and it may well be) I purchased the software through the Ritlabs website and received my confirmation e-mail from Cifnet. new key for V2.0 doesn't works in old versions 1.xx, You should upgrade to 2.0. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: VFTester
Hello Thomas, TF If you want to know what VFTester is, please ask on TF the beta list. Thanks, I'll try. -- Best regards, Artemich Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT(16/09/2003, 2:17 AM + GMT), Jack Morrison wrote: JM First, create a new pad in SmartBat. For example, a JM new pad named Clips. JM Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! I was unable to delete things too - which is why I stopped using SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.] I had hoped version 2 would have solved that. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message create date
I recently switched from Eudora to TheBat. I used the import wizard to move my old messages from Eudora. Now when I look at the old messages they show a Receive date of the date and time that I imported the messages into TheBat. My question is, is there a way to change the receive date to the receive date that is in the in the RFC-822 headers. I have emails that go back to 1995 and I would like to have the receive date reflect that. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ed -- Best regards, Edward mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:27:08 AM, Thomas wrote: TF We might be talking about different things: Yes, I can copy and TF paste. But this is not what I am talking about. *I* don't highlight TF anything, TB does it for me. I think we're talking about the same thing but in different ways Thomas ;-) TF Again: TF Works = www.url.com Yes it's in blue and is a hotlink and is immediately clickable TF Doesn't work = [www.url.com] Yes works but only if I highlight the bit between the [ ] brackets in TB! then right click and select Open URL from the menu. Is not in blue and is not a hotlink but TB! still recognises it as an URL and offers the appropriate context menu items. TF The difference I am seeing that the first one is light-blue and TF underlined in both TB's editor when I type it, and the viewer when I TF read it. You should see the same. Yes agreed I see the same. TF On the first, I can click and it opens in the browser. Yes agreed see above. TF The second is just text and I would have to cp it into my TF browser's address field. Yes just text but no I don't have to copy/paste it as I said above - just highlighting it in TB! invokes the context items Open URL and Copy URL. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:32:48 AM, MAU wrote: M Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-) Same here Miguel... sign of getting older methinks! ;-) peering sideways in case mod bearing trout is looming into view! -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Mark, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JM Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of the menu which I assume applies to selected text? That's probably why the delete command doesn't work on the pad itself because it's a text delete command. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.00.6 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-) heading for TBOT in a hurry cos I can smell fish! Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:30:16 AM, MAU wrote: M Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-) For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-) heading for TBOT in a hurry cos I can smell fish! -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, sign of getting older methinks! ;-) I'm not old I'm just 60 :-(( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: newbie here, 3 questions
Hi Thomas, Thank you for your prompt reply :-) Big5 is displayed fine over here, except for the missing line breaks. Which encoding are you talking about, and what is your Windows version? It's true that, gb2312/big5 has been displayed well in plain text mode. But, there are still some flaw. To see the attachment, TB still dont display some character well. And I use the Plain Tex(windows) editor, it's unable to auto-wrap chinese characters. What's more, TB cannot handle korean characters. In html mode, TB add some square in the mail. Apparently, TB's html viewer isn't compatible with asian charset My system is Win2000 Pro+SP4, IE6+SP1, TB v2.00.6 I haven't experienced problems, but that may be because I haven't experienced a power failure for a long time. Where are you located? I'm living in shanghai now. I used foxmail to get my mail months ago. I encountered system crash(or power failure) while receiving letters/compressing folders some times. The mail database corrupt and lots of mails were missing. So I switch to becky for protecting my email data. Mail data integrality is very important for me. so I'm curious that how TB ensure the integrity of large mail database, before I determine to transit to it. The intpack used to contain some Chinese versions, but I have only an subset with European languages at the moment, so I don't know the current status. I think Max Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person you want to contact with your noble intentions. Thanx a lot. I'll consult with him for langpack issue. -- Best regards, drifthat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hello DG, DRS Takes a matter of seconds to install a dropper on any system. DRS Come back on-line with the same IP or stay on-line long enough DRS and the hacker is on your dime, time and system. While a good topic, it's OT for TBUDL, it's been CC'd to TBOT. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out DG. This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) You can subscribe to TBOT by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message create date
Hello Edward, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:34:15 -0400 GMT (16/09/2003, 21:34 +0700 GMT), Edward M. Brown wrote: My question is, is there a way to change the receive date to the receive date that is in the in the RFC-822 headers. The Received date TB displays is the date when TB received it... I have emails that go back to 1995 and I would like to have the receive date reflect that. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You might want to use the Created date instead. That's the one in the RFC headers starting with Date:. HTH. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! - Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
Hello Anne, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:55:46 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 21:55 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: TF The second is just text and I would have to cp it into my TF browser's address field. Yes just text but no I don't have to copy/paste it as I said above - just highlighting it in TB! invokes the context items Open URL and Copy URL. And why oh why, if TB does recognise it as an URL, is it not highlighted so that we can just click on it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: newbie here, 3 questions
Hello drifthat, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:22:25 +0800 GMT (16/09/2003, 22:22 +0700 GMT), drifthat wrote: Big5 is displayed fine over here, except for the missing line breaks. Which encoding are you talking about, and what is your Windows version? It's true that, gb2312/big5 has been displayed well in plain text mode. But, there are still some flaw. To see the attachment, TB still dont display some character well. And I use the Plain Tex(windows) editor, it's unable to auto-wrap chinese characters. What's more, TB cannot handle korean characters. I don't know about Korean characters, but TB's lack of being able to wrap/reflow Chinese characters is a major drawback. Yuki also reports problems with Japanese. Full DBCS support has been promised for the near future. In html mode, TB add some square in the mail. Apparently, TB's html viewer isn't compatible with asian charset Squares usually appear over here when the font type does not support the character used. Try changing the font for the HTML viewer in Options / Preferences / Viewer / Viewer. The latter should say HTML Viewer instead of just Viewer, BTW. I haven't experienced problems, but that may be because I haven't experienced a power failure for a long time. Where are you located? I'm living in shanghai now. I see. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Die Streichhoelzer muessen gut versteckt werden, damit sie keine kleinen Kinder bekommen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:05:29 AM, you wrote: Hello Jack, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote: JM Now try to delete it. Good luck with that! Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of the menu which I assume applies to selected text? Mark, I was talking about deletion via Windows Explorer, when one no longer needs the text file(s) or the tab. See the rest of this thread for details. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Monday, September 15, 2003, 10:34:24 PM, you wrote: Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional. Setting in SmartBat itself: 1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted 2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted 3.) Ask every time I vote for the above. And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Monday, September 15, 2003, 9:30:10 PM, you wrote: Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab? Maybe. But that would be a wishlist item and not a bug report. ;-) I agree. I was just mumbling to myself. :) -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message create date
RE: the results of importing mail from Eudora My question is, is there a way to change the receive date to the receive date that is in the in the RFC-822 headers. The Received date TB displays is the date when TB received it... I have emails that go back to 1995 and I would like to have the receive date reflect that. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You might want to use the Created date instead. That's the one in the RFC headers starting with Date:. I am evaluating TB in anticipation of moving users off Eudora Pegasus. For me using the created date is an acceptable answer BUT I've not yet successfully imported an address book from either. TB wants a text file to import address books from but I've not yet found how to export address books TO text from either competing email app. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Hello Jack, On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:48:27 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 23:48 +0700 GMT), Jack Morrison wrote: I vote for the above. I have sent it to the wishlist as Bug report 1720. I don't know why it is called a bug report, I checked and I was really in the wishlist. And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads. LOL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message create date
I've not yet found how to export address books TO text from either competing email app (Eudora or Pegasus) Do they not have any CSV output format? LDIF or vcf are also input methods accepted by TB. Correction: Eudora's address book is natively in .TXT format and TB can import simple addresses BUT it when it encounters a mailing list it (TB) only imports the first user's address and names that user the mailing list name. I would have to manually edit nndbase.txt files so that each mailing list is broken down into induhviduals THEN it can be imported by TB. This is difficult to accept. I have no answer yet on how to get any addresses out of Pegasus (not my native app). Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: someone use v2 on NT4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:54:40 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: someone use v2 on NT4? Greetings Mark, On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 3:07:20 AM, you wrote: Mark You might think about updating your OS. Windows NT4 support is being Mark phased out by Microsoft, and as of 1 January 2005 you won't even be Mark able to get online fixes or support. NT4 is no longer available for Mark sale through any Microsoft channel. Expecting third-party developers Mark to go out of their way to support an OS that Microsoft itself won't Mark support anymore is asking a bit much. And just like they did with Win98 they extended the support life just prior to EOL. Before I made any major changes I would wait 6 months prior to 1 January 2005 and see if Microsoft extends the support cycle. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Happiness is your Mother-In-Law's Picture on the Back of a Milk Carton. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA+AwUBP2dPAbwi09Hs/j+VEQJGPgCdFtEHULe57Ghk2yOFALI5vi203SAAmP2J GBT+b1ApHzXGdCsyDEMywd4= =kzZh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message create date
Hi Rich, @16-Sep-2003, 13:11 -0400 (18:11 UK time) Rich Gregory said: TB wants a text file to import address books from but I've not yet found how to export address books TO text from either competing email app. Do they not have any CSV output format? LDIF or vcf are also input methods accepted by TB. All three of these are industry standards. The originating apps should have a method of getting their data out to at least one of these formats. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message create date
Hello Rich, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 7:11:27 PM, you wrote: RG I am evaluating TB in anticipation of moving users off Eudora RG Pegasus. For me using the created date is an acceptable answer BUT I've RG not yet successfully imported an address book from either. RG TB wants a text file to import address books from but I've not yet found RG how to export address books TO text from either competing email app. Did you try Dawn yet (freeware)? http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/ Or is this not what you were looking for? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Message create date
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 12:52:16 PM, you wrote: RG TB wants a text file to import address books from but I've not yet found RG how to export address books TO text from either competing email app. Did you try Dawn yet (freeware)? http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/ Or is this not what you were looking for? Mark, are you (or anyone else) aware of any program that will take the output from, say, TB's address book file and then let you PRINT it out in various common (or even custom) Address Book formats, e.g., the Franklin Organizer, DayTimer, etc? It must be able to pick up all of TB's data segments, including the miscellaneous data that I currently list under Other. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Message create date
RG TB wants a text file to import address books from but I've not yet found RG how to export address books TO text from either competing email app. Did you try Dawn yet (freeware)? http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/ Dawn does the same thing with mailing lists that TB does, reduces them to a single entry. Thanks for the lead though! I will try it for the Pegasus address books (they have less mailing lists). Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Regarding Scheduler
Questions: What should one normally do with scheduled Events after they have passed? Just delete them? Let them continue to build up? Is there a maximum file size? Will the list of events eventually begin to scroll automatically? -- Best regards, Jack mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hello, i have installed K9 for junkmail. However, i can not use specials- Mark as junk (or not mark as junk). Obvious i do something wrong but the Help do not bring me any further? -- Best regards, Gerrit mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message create date
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rich, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 6:53:48 PM, you wrote: RG Correction: Eudora's address book is natively in .TXT format and TB can RG import simple addresses BUT it when it encounters a mailing list it (TB) RG only imports the first user's address and names that user the mailing RG list name. RG I would have to manually edit nndbase.txt files so that each mailing list RG is broken down into induhviduals THEN it can be imported by TB. This is RG difficult to accept. This may work... import Eudora's address book into Outlook Express and then use OE to create an LDIF file, which TB! can use. Alternatively, you could use Netscape instead of OE for the intermediate step. As for Pegasus... only tab delimited files can be exported (there is another but this is native to Pegasus). - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2d0WFv+PP8p0/caEQL5+wCgglG1ls6xHqmQEnlMlqrp19YVzv8AmwVI B33PbMp5dydyyRKfIJ1tK8u7 =z9zv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
logging 'selective download' ?
Hi, is there a way to see which messages where killed on the server using the Sorting Office ?? i'm pretty sure i'm deleting all the wrong stuff, but it would be nice to check - even afterwards ;-) -- Rob using The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When can i usae specials-mark as junk
Hello Gerrit Kruijer, On Tuesday, September 16, 2003 , at 22:30:52[GMT +0200] (which was 22:30 where I live) Gerrit Kruijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: When can i usae specials-mark as junk GK Hello, GK i have installed K9 for junkmail. However, i can not use specials- GK Mark as junk (or not mark as junk). GK Obvious i do something wrong but the Help do not bring me any further? Please note that the specials only work if there is an anti spam plugin active in the bat ( options / preferences / anti spam ...) These buttons do not work with an external spam agent (like K9 / Spampal etc...) best regards, Rene Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP and attached files
== Reply to your email of Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 1:04:49 PM == ===8== Allie wrote: === Sean Stark, [SS] wrote: SS I'm sending an email with an attachment. I pick SHFT-ALT-E (Sign and SS encyrpt entire message). The message gets encrypted but not the SS attachment. PGP/Mime is set to Auto. Under PGP Options use SS PGP/Mime when sending emails is ticked. SS Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong ? You cannot encrypt and sign using PGP/MIME before actually hitting send. This will not work. You have to enable the 'sign when completed' and 'encrypt when completed' options and then send the message. The message and attachment will be PGP/MIME signed and encrypted during the sending process. I just tried that. Everything works smoothly from TheBat's side. But then the recipient (who is using Outlook-2000) gets an email that has has a completely empty body and 2 attachments. (called ATT31902.ATT, and ATT31903.ATT). Hitting the Decrypt/Verify button within Outlook does nothing (it can't find anything to decrypt). And those files can't seem to be saved and decrypted manually either. Does this work for you ? SS When I receive an email with an encypted attachment I choose SS decrypt and *before* I type anything it displays the msg box The SS passphrase you entered does not match any of the listed keys. That SS msg popup is redisplayed each time I hit the OK button (about a SS dozen times). When it stops redisplaying, I get the chance to enter SS the passphrase and all seems to work fine. This happened to me while using PGP v6.5.8ckt. I never did figure out what caused it. Upgrading to PGP v 8 cured the problem. You could also try fully uninstalling and then reinstalling PGP. Yes, I am using PGP v6.5.8ckt. Thanks for the info. I probably won't upgrade just yet, unless 658ckt is also causing the other problems. This one is relatively minor. But at least I now know the culprit, and my options :) SS Just one question: it seems that the only way to decrypt the SS in-coming attached file is to save the file, then decrypt it outside SS of thebat!. Is that correct ? If the file is encrypted by itself then yes. If the message and file are PGP/MIME encrypted then you wouldn't have to go through that hassle. From outlook-2000, the message is sent (also using PGP 658ckt) with sign/encrypt on send. In the Text tab page in TheBat I get the new button at the top right of the screen to decrypt/verify. I press that, then I enter my pass-phrase, then the text component of the message is decrypted, but the attachment is still showing in the left of screen as encrypted. So I am having to go through that hassle. Are you saying that on your system (ie PGP 8) it decrypyts the attachment in the same step ? ===8= pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How is this possible
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G'day TBUDL, I received this blank e-mail via my hotmail account. All the e-mail contains is: ,-- | X-Hotpop-Folder: bulk | Subject: | X-Text-Classification: spam `-- X-Hotpop-Folder: bulk is added by hotmail popper and X-Text-Classification: spam is added by POPFile. How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a subject header? - -- znark The Bat! 2.00.6 Windows XP - Service Pack 1, Build 2600 POPFile 0.19.1 PGP 6.5.8ckt - Build 08 Proxomitron 4.5 Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 Hotmail Popper 2.0.3 Health is the slowest rate at which one can die. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP2b9m18dhdf0HL1jEQKlnACg7FiuEsTiP8SaQHYpgAdazMp3ocIAoPs1 BiGedwZen7jHq15tKl96wjKf =TtEx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can I copy account views to new account?
Hi everyone, I appologize in advance for another probably very obvious question. Essentially, I've just created a new account in TB and would like to copy the views from another formerly-created account. Essentially, I've spent quite a bit of time getting the columns sized the way I wanted, the information displayed the way I want, etc.. I can certainly duplicate this by hand, but if there's an easier way such as copying a config file of some sort, I'd rather do that as it would keep things standardized. THe two views I want to copy are my default view and the view being used by my inbox which is the only folder not using the default view. THanks in advance for any help/info. -- Best regards, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How is this possible
Hallo znark, On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:09:49 +1000GMT (17-9-03, 0:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: z How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a z subject header? Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp envelope' and it doesn't get saved in the message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: logging 'selective download' ?
Hello all, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Rob wrote: is there a way to see which messages where killed on the server using the Sorting Office ?? i'm pretty sure i'm deleting all the wrong stuff, but it would be nice to check - even afterwards ;-) it is not possible now, but AFAIK new Filteryng System will be released in the next minor version and this should be possible too. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP and attached files
Sean Stark, [SS] wrote: SS I just tried that. Everything works smoothly from TheBat's side. But SS then the recipient (who is using Outlook-2000) gets an email that has SS has a completely empty body and 2 attachments. (called ATT31902.ATT, SS and ATT31903.ATT). Hitting the Decrypt/Verify button within Outlook SS does nothing (it can't find anything to decrypt). And those files can't SS seem to be saved and decrypted manually either. SS Does this work for you ? Does Outlook support PGP/MIME? I doubt that it does. If the file is encrypted by itself then yes. If the message and file are PGP/MIME encrypted then you wouldn't have to go through that hassle. SS From outlook-2000, the message is sent (also using PGP 658ckt) with SS sign/encrypt on send. In the Text tab page in TheBat I get the SS new button at the top right of the screen to decrypt/verify. I press SS that, then I enter my pass-phrase, then the text component of the SS message is decrypted, but the attachment is still showing in the SS left of screen as encrypted. So I am having to go through that SS hassle. Are you saying that on your system (ie PGP 8) it decrypyts SS the attachment in the same step ? If PGP/MIME encrypted yes. AFAIK, Outlook does not support PGP/MIME. If Outlook does support PGP/MIME encryption then decrypting the message will decrypt the message body and attachment together. If Outlook doesn't support PGP/MIME, then what it's doing is encrypting the text body and then separately encrypting the attachment. This is why you have to be manually decrypting the attachment after saving it to disk. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message ID
Hello TBUDL! when I send messages with TB, a message ID will be generated from the domain name of my email address. For email traffic this is good enough (for me at least), but on the usenet, people are sensitive about this. I use TB and MyGate to read/send news. I have two choices to conform with usenet rules: 1.) I can get a free unique FQDN to be used for mid's only. How do I tell TB to use that FQDN instead of the domail of the email address? 2.) I could also send the posting out without any mid. The newsserver will then generate one. That's fine with me. How do I tell TB to send a message out without any mid? -- Thanks, Thomas Generated with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote: SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.] Wow, I just discovered... Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu) The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct. -- Urban Solomom had three hundred wives and seven hundred porcupines. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft
Hello Batmans! I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP Encrypt when completed option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for further editing Encrypt when completed option is OFF already Is it possibly to be ensure that if messages is intending to be encrypted (Encrypt when coplete ON) then even after saving into draft it will be done without additional setting any options manually ? Your sincerely registered, Sasha. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote... I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP Encrypt when completed option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for further editing Encrypt when completed option is OFF already This is a many times requested thing. It happens with sign on complete as well. It appears they don't store any of the encryption options when it comes to drafts. Wish they'd fix that. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sir! Romulan Warbird decloaking off th #%NO CARRIER -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP2flcSuD6BT4/R9zEQJELQCgmjJ9JvUAhRfRjXewzKOMi44jSNkAoLSO +TglFB2fS5Zhg91k/1T+bu1h =Q+Bv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft
17.09.2003, U wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote... I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP Encrypt when completed option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for further editing Encrypt when completed option is OFF already This is a many times requested thing. It happens with sign on complete as well. It appears they don't store any of the encryption options when it comes to drafts. Wish they'd fix that. Dear fellow! I DON'T NEED messages to be ENCRYPTED (SIGNED) when placing into Draft ! I NEED, that TB2 DON'T FORGET state of Options Encrypt when completed (Sign when completed) So after opening message from draft and sending it message to be Encrypted at all ! Regards, AG Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Junk plug-in
R What else are batters using for a junk filter plug-in? - POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net) I looked. Not really a plug-in. It runs outside of TB. Anyone else? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
