Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Hello zParticle, Friday, February 13, 2004, 6:07:51 PM, you wrote: MicroEd could rule. But it needs soft wrapping. Isn't this what Auto-format does? -- Dave Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Dear Dave, @15-Feb-2004, 08:20 -0600 (15-Feb 14:20 UK time) Dave Gorman [DG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to zParticle: MicroEd could rule. But it needs soft wrapping. DG Isn't this what Auto-format does? Yes. I keep telling people this, but nobody wants to get it and I get fed up trying. I use it on a toggled basis. Sometimes I want auto-reformat (typing, inserting, post-paste ... because the paste operation itself doesn't trigger it but the next space press does) and sometimes I want it out of the way (typing lists, hanging/indent paragraphs, formatted text). It's there as a toggle on Ctrl+Shift+F and I just toggle it on/off at will and MicroEd rules. It's not really the same as soft wrapping, but I see no difference in usage, just a difference in theory. Okay, one difference. With softwrap you could get round one of the limitations of autowrap. Separate paragraphs without a blank line as in lists, but that doesn't help the hanging indent format. Oh yes, paste would probably wrap properly at once without the extra keystroke, but I'd say that's a bug that could possibly be fixed. (One day.) (If I ever report it as such.) (In so many words.) (Shut up Marck.) (Okay.) -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Hello Marck, On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 14:31:44 +GMT (15-2-2004, 15:31 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP @15-Feb-2004, 08:20 -0600 (15-Feb 14:20 UK time) Dave Gorman [DG] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to zParticle: MicroEd could rule. But it needs soft wrapping. DG Isn't this what Auto-format does? ...snip MDP It's there as a toggle on Ctrl+Shift+F and I just toggle it on/off MDP at will and MicroEd rules. Is it just a matter of toggling while typing in a new message or in a reply? -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Dear Henk, @15-Feb-2004, 19:33 +0100 (15-Feb 18:33 UK time) Henk de Bruijn [HDB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: DG Isn't this what Auto-format does? HDB ...snip MDP It's there as a toggle on Ctrl+Shift+F and I just toggle it on/off MDP at will and MicroEd rules. HDB Is it just a matter of toggling while typing in a new message HDB or in a reply? Heck, yes. You can set the default (Editor options | Auto-format) and Ctrl+Shift+F it on and off from then on at will. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB - BSODs
Hi TBUDL, I wonder if TB can ever cause (or be related to some other software that causes) recurrent BSODs (Blue Screen of Deaths). It seems to cause BSODs here. They happen, if I'm trying to work, every 2-5 minutes. Previously I had a very stable SuperMicro Dual CPU W2K system. I'm going to have to re-install or go back to a previous registry state, I guess. Meanwhile I boot to Linux, where's there's no TB. However - the BSODs do NOT happen, if I DON't use The Bat!!! The BSOD error: o The BSOD message is the STOP 0xD1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. This indicates `that a kernel-mode driver attempted to access pageable memory at a process IRQL that was too high'. It can mean hardware / driver problems (the logical and most usual cause) but also can mean that your CPUs are not being cooled well enough, and also .. Microsoft talks a reference in a Microsoft document about some `system software' occasionally causing this error. But it's hard to believe it's hardware itself. I've been running happily on the same hardware configuration for 3 years. Also I've desperately replaced boards, checked disk memory over and over anyway - no fix. MY internet is a bit more flakey on W2K than Linux also, but I did change the NIC from a board to an in-built SuperMicro NIC, using a different driver. I'd be happy for any advice, or suggestions. Thanks, -jae -- John Eadie [JE46] (604) 904-5185 FAX: (801) 760-3555 COMPUTING ART Inc ~ Incorporated '89 ~ http://www.c-art.com `Grace does not overcome nature but makes it perfect.' .. Meister Eckhart, Fragments, #22 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB WINE ..
Hi TBUDL, I understand it's possible to run TB using the WINE code on Linux systems. What is the general verdict on how well this works? Thanks, -jae -- John Eadie [JE46] (604) 904-5185 FAX: (801) 760-3555 COMPUTING ART Inc ~ Incorporated '89 ~ http://www.c-art.com `Grace does not overcome nature but makes it perfect.' .. Meister Eckhart, Fragments, #22 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Mod: Cut mark (was: cut-line RFC and client support)
At 12:10 PM on 2/12/2004, Onno Broekmans typed ... O Well, perhaps I'm just talking gibberish... Never mind then :) I've seen the space at the end of the cutline be eaten, too. It hasn't happened recently, but you're not imagining the problem. I've just never been able to reproduce it reliably. -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/12/2004 at 12:35 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Quotations are for people who don't say things themselves worth quoting. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
Hello bats, on Sun, 15. Feb 2004 at 13:30:21 -0800 John Eadie wrote: J o The BSOD message is the STOP 0xD1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. Is there any driver (filename) specified? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Applying filter across all accounts
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Friday, January 30, 2004, 12:22:00 PM, you wrote: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Wow, and I thought I was one of the only in the 30 account club on TheBat. I have wanted the same thing here with out having to copy and paste to 31 accounts, ESPECIALLY if I want to make a change that is reflected in all of them. Some of my other requests are: - Have the accounts that generate an error change font color or get flaged some how in the accounts pane. Hearing the error chime 4 times and not knowing which account might be the one that did it is rather annoying. - Be able to disable the multi-thread receive email function and just do one account, then move to the next one. Could you also help me politely nag about being able to make change to account settings globally - like change the smtp server for alla ccounts or a checkbox selected selection of accounts, or don't check at startup for all or a checkbox selected selection - i.e: for any settings in properties. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
John Eadie, [JE] wrote: JE I wonder if TB can ever cause (or be related JE to some other software that causes) recurrent BSODs JE (Blue Screen of Deaths). It seems to cause BSODs here. IMO, it's only relationship with BSOD's is that it needs to use/access the problem part of the system and as a result the BSOD's occur. You then incorrectly blame it for being the cause of the problem when all it's doing is showing up the problem. It doesn't even matter if it's not happening with another network application. When I initially bought this laptop I'm using the BIOS version and adapter drivers weren't tangoing and I was getting a lot of BSOD's. It seemed that IE was the application that triggered BSOD's on most occasions. Just recently, I had to deal with another bout of mysterious BSOD's and it seemed to have been secondary to a bad USB hub. I did have to do a repair install etc since I didn't know the cause and I still had occasional BSOD's after the repair install. However, the problem completely vanished after removing the hub. JE They happen, if I'm trying to work, every 2-5 minutes. Previously JE I had a very stable SuperMicro Dual CPU W2K system. Yep. I know how you feel. :) I wouldn't blame TB! though. The problem is still there. JE I'm going to have to re-install or go back to a previous registry JE state, I guess. This may work, yes. JE Meanwhile I boot to Linux, where's there's no TB. How unfortunate. :) JE However - the BSODs do NOT happen, if I DON't use The Bat!!! Nothing beats the tranquility of OS stability, *especially* when it's taken away from you and you've found it again. JE The BSOD error: JE o The BSOD message is the STOP 0xD1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. This is rather non-specific and was what I got on the second of the two BSOD periods. Very likely a corrupted driver, a driver encountering a new situation with its bugginess/incompatibility surfacing. Lastly it could be bad/defective hardware. Let's hope it's the software. JE But it's hard to believe it's hardware itself. I'd hope not myself. JE I've been running happily on the same hardware configuration for 3 JE years. Well, things can certainly go bad. I was using the hub for months. JE Also I've desperately replaced boards, checked disk memory over JE and over anyway - no fix. Ok. So it's not a port or something so. JE I'd be happy for any advice, or suggestions. I'd try a restoring to a previously working restore point or doing a repair installation. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.04 RC/3 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB WINE ..
Hello John, Sunday, February 15, 2004, 4:34:27 PM, you wrote: JE Hi TBUDL, JE I understand it's possible to run TB using the WINE JE code on Linux systems. What is the general verdict on JE how well this works? I have not tried it since the 1.4x version and did not do extensive testing, but it did work. I got it to send and receive messages. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB WINE ..
On Sunday, February 15, 2004, 9:34:27 PM, John wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] J I understand it's possible to run TB using the WINE J code on Linux systems. What is the general verdict on J how well this works? I've not tried it on WINE as such, but I can say that it runs fine under CrossOver Office on Xandros 2.0 (CO is a WINE-based utility). In fact that's what I'm using to send this message :-) -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 on Xandros 2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
On Monday, February 16, 2004, 12:25:02 AM, Allie wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JE Meanwhile I boot to Linux, where's there's no TB. A How unfortunate. :) Xandros could be your friend here... TB! works very nicely under CrossOver Office in Xandros :-) -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 -a born-again Xandros Linux batter!!! ;-) Flying high with The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 on Xandros 2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat betas
Hi Where can I download TB betas. I'm looking for the one that solves the scroll wheel problem but there doesn't seem to be a link on the Ritlabs site... -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat betas
Hello malexander, Sunday, February 15, 2004, 8:47:48 PM, malexander wrote: m Where can I download TB betas. IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Then go to http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ and log in to DL beta. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat betas
Hello Greg, Monday, February 16, 2004, 2:56:48 AM, you wrote: GS Hello malexander, GS Sunday, February 15, 2004, 8:47:48 PM, malexander wrote: m Where can I download TB betas. GS IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - GS http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ GS Then go to http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ and log in to DL beta. Thanks :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Hello Marck, On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:14:59 +GMT (15-2-2004, 21:14 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MDP @15-Feb-2004, 19:33 +0100 (15-Feb 18:33 UK time) Henk de Bruijn MDP [HDB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ...snip HDB Is it just a matter of toggling while typing in a new message HDB or in a reply? MDP Heck, yes. You can set the default (Editor options | Auto-format) MDP and Ctrl+Shift+F it on and off from then on at will. I knew the auto-format option but had put that off because of various reasons. But toggling works great, thanks! -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
Henk de Bruijn wrote: I knew the auto-format option but had put that off because of various reasons. But toggling works great, thanks! It took me awhile to discover auto-format. Maybe this should be something included in the install notes - or more easily found in the manual? Not sure if this is what March and other do, but I keep auto-format on and toggle it off when needed (usually for creating lists). But you can leave it off and toggle it ON as needed, too. Note that toggling is temporary - turning auto-format on or off from the what you have as default is for that message only. TB returns to your normal setting after you send that message (I love this). -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A simple suggestion for MicroEd
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:08:39 -0600GMT (16-2-2004, 7:08 +0100, where I live), Ken Green wrote: KG Note that toggling is temporary - turning auto-format on or off from KG the what you have as default is for that message only. TB returns to KG your normal setting after you send that message (I love this). I was wondering about this, now I know. Thnx. -- Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slash zero?
Hello Batters! Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? I suppose finding a suitable font and switching all my programs to use it as a default could be the answer, but I have yet to come across one. I know there's a way to tell MS Word to display ( print?) an upper-case O then backup up and overlay a slash! Not worth the trouble. Maybe edit some current font myself and fix the zero or maybe substitute a character from a Finnish character set! -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
