Re: TB! annoyances
Martin Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need > resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug > fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no > order of importance... My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am currently reading when after a mail check there are no unread messages in that folder any more. The message currently displayed in the preview pane should stay open. > Okay, so I was scraping the barrel to get to ten. And my personal > wish... better IMAP support with automatic filtering! Plus a little more > stability than the current release. I cannot find the current release instable in any way. Care to elaborate? -- Thomas (via Gmane's web interface) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! annoyances
Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 9:05:59 PM, you wrote: MW> Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need MW> resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug MW> fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no MW> order of importance... An interesting list. I'd like to add my own items: 11. I'd like a "memo present" flag 12. I'd like a "scheduled event" flag 13. I'd like a "known/unknown" flag for addresses 14. I'd like a "Full conversation" virtual view Item 11: Memo present flag. Memos look good. I'd like to use them, I really would. I can see how they'd be useful. Especially as the text of memos can be searched separately from the body of emails, for instance. But I just can't use them that well unless I know memos are present on emails - otherwise, I'll probably never see my memos again, knowing me. So they're useless in the current implementation. I could add the Memo column to my views. But that shows the text of the memo. So for it to be anywhere near aesthetically useful, I'll want to assign it enough space in the view to show at least one word. Except most emails don't have memos - so that's a lot of space to dedicate to a field that's not used that much. The solution? When a memo is added, add a flag to the email saying it has a memo. This means that you can now show it as a flag in a similar way to the parked flag, the attachment flag and the flagged flag. That would be truly useful. This feature request truly comes into its own with the new virtual folders - because it's a flag, you can now quickly search large message bases for emails with memos (as opposed to doing a lengthy text-based search). So a virtual folder can be used to keep tabs on all your memos, making memos a truly useful feature - rather than something highly likely to be forgotten. Item 12: A "Scheduled Event" flag. See the reasoning for item 11, really. Another great feature in The Bat! that could make it truly exceptional, as current scheduling is a little flaky. Emails with events scheduled against them need to have a flag, so that it's easily visible. I know that the scheduler does more than just emails, but this would go some way to making the scheduler more visible. Also, if some work is done to make scheduled event details quickly visible, the scheduler would become more useful. I suggest adding a clock icon in the header information when you're previewing or viewing a message - clicking on the icon should show you the details of the event. But that's for the future - a flag that you can use in views or searches is the first step to really making the scheduler more visible and usable. Item 13: A "known/unknown" address flag Not for use in views, funnily enough. The idea here is more that when you're viewing a message, The Bat! should give you active feedback as to whether it "knows" the recipient via your address books - an icon seems like the best way, just showing the contact card. (And perhaps a contact card with a question mark on it if they're not in your address book.) Put the icon in the header information, preferably after the name on the from line. I don't think we need this in the to/cc/bcc lines, just the from line to start with. Clicking on the icon should take you to the contact's address book entry, or if there isn't one it should offer to create one for you. Item 14: A "Full Conversation" view. We can piece together threads in mailing lists fantastically in The Bat!, but private correspondance is a nightmare. I'm left to manually track back through conversations via "open reply" and guesswork. And as a slap in the face, The Bat! will thread my mails in the Sent folder, or their mails in my Inbox (or whatever folder) - but not all of the messages together! Perhaps I'm missing something, but I can't see a way to see the whole thread of correspondence between me and someone else if we're not using a mailing list. All that's needed here is a special class of virtual folder which take the message you have highlighted and searches for all messages related to it - and then threads them together for you. It would make tracking emails much easier. Notes: These are all just niceties. I can continue to not use Memos, for instance. It would just be nice to be able to use them. And the scheduled flag - well, I just don't use the scheduler right now. Instead, I flag messages and then use a virtual folder to show all flagged messages, which I then deal with at my leisure. So I have my own personal workaround on that item, and as I said I think it's more something to consider when the scheduler gets a little more integration into the rest of The Bat! - which it will hopefully get one day. The address flags are purely a nicety, based on me wondering whether or not I had added someone to the address book earlier today. I had to open my address book to confirm it, and at that point I wondered why The Bat! wasn't doing the wo
Re[2]: TB! annoyances
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maggie, On 06 May 2004, 17:26 -0400 (06/05/200422:26 local time) mm Meister [MM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM> Perhaps a tenth could be: If you click on any text (including a link) the MM> cursor jumps to another site in the message view. That's version 2.10.03. How could I forget that one? That's really annoying! However, I reckon a bug report has been submitted already. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.10.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.4 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: "PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370"; iQA/AwUBQJqw9zknq5PWREYNEQIVgQCdEFPM6P4Ddj73Xw2VScONci2RkNsAn3Ii 0f8Gr4UfBCpfDg534QCS9Pve =ewsP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! annoyances
Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:05:59 PM, you wrote: M> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- M> Hash: SHA1 M> Hello TBUDL, M> Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need M> resolution. M> Okay, so I was scraping the barrel to get to ten. :-) Perhaps a tenth could be: If you click on any text (including a link) the cursor jumps to another site in the message view. That's version 2.10.03. -- Regards, Maggiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! annoyances
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no order of importance... 1. The header pane for new messages doesn't have a border. 2. The spelling of colour is incorrect (inconsistent) in the Folder menu. 3. The subject column size sometimes goes awry when you expand and then close a branch when using threaded views. 4. None existent help in TB! Preferences. 5. Deleted messages aren't visible in IMAP folders. 6. No support for Sophos AV (the current plug-in stopped working during the 1.63 beta cycle) and some (?) other AV products. 7. The MenuNavigator button doesn't work reliably with XP themes. 8. The Message Finder (Search) window resize separator uses a different style to other separators. 9. There isn't an option in Preferences for turning off the splash screen (yes, I know there's a command line option but you should have to edit shortcuts to achieve this.) 10. No nice 48x48 pixel TB! icons. Okay, so I was scraping the barrel to get to ten. :-) And my personal wish... better IMAP support with automatic filtering! Plus a little more stability than the current release. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.10.03 w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: "PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370"; iQA/AwUBQJqarzknq5PWREYNEQKTewCgnkzQ5Wc3p4zOSAvn8lyESaTdVPsAniJB 8JQTTNEdFBFr+1wGJgf0ZFfQ =tTHT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how do I retrieve missing "test" folders
On Thu, 6 May 2004 22:10:36 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>How do I get access to the messages in my folders named "test"? >Do this: [Snip] This should also work: 1) Create a new folder & select it. 2) Choose Tools -> Import Messages -> From The Bat! Message Base (.TBB-Files)... 3) Find in TB! Message Folder Tree the folder with the "missing" messages. 4) Select MESSAGES.TBB & click Open. This is also the method I use to copy messages between my regular Bat and my "trial" Bat. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FAQ server offline
@5-May-2004, 19:43 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB: MDP> Before anyone writes to me about it I'll tip you off here. MDP> The server hosting my web site and (therefore) the TB FAQ has been MDP> seriously compromised and will be off air for the next couple of MDP> days while it is rebuilt. MDP> Apologies for any inconvenience. Until it comes back up, I have a temporary location at http://www.marck.free-online.co.uk/thebat. NB: The Macro library doesn't work on that host :-(. Actually, it's all a bit lumpy - put up in "emergency" mode. But it's better than nothing! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpXouAqQKn26.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs?
Marek Mikus wrote: file must be named glyphs.bmp, option "High colour images" in "Options | Preferences" must be turned ON and program must be restarted for detecting glyphs file. High color images! Of course! Thanks - that was it. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs?
Hello all, Thursday, May 6, 2004, ken green wrote: > Are glyphs no longer supported? I thought I only had to copy the BMP > file to the TB program directory to get the glyphs I want. Is that > only for a new install? I upgraded to 2.10.03 this morning. file must be named glyphs.bmp, option "High colour images" in "Options | Preferences" must be turned ON and program must be restarted for detecting glyphs file. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
glyphs?
Are glyphs no longer supported? I thought I only had to copy the BMP file to the TB program directory to get the glyphs I want. Is that only for a new install? I upgraded to 2.10.03 this morning. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP: Deleted messages
Hello Clive, On Thu, 6 May 2004 06:49:59 +0100 GMT (06/05/2004, 12:49 +0700 GMT), Clive Taylor wrote: >> With the strike through? I've seen it in 2 programs I think. CT> From my experience this is the standard for - at least - OE, Outlook, CT> Mulberry, mailservers such as FastMail, servers implementing HORDE such CT> as MailSnare ... See if you can associate a colour group with deleted messages. "Colour" in colour group can also be a strikeout. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Salmon day: Swimming upstream all day to get screwed in the end. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error creating ...\mail\BayesIt folder on startup?!
Hello Cory, On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:07:32 +0200 GMT (06/05/2004, 16:07 +0700 GMT), Cory wrote: C> If ...\mail\BayesIt does not exists (eg. I rename or remove the C> folder), TB creates this folder by itself - and at nest start, C> complains about the existing folder again... C> This filtering has never been used by me, and AFAIK it's not enabled. C> Anyone knows what I should do to correct / prevent this error? C> Thanks! Options / Preferences / Plugins. Delete the one you are not using. Should be OK then - I think. Please let us know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nach Ansicht des Sachverstaendigen durfte der Verlust zwischen 250.000 und einer Viertelmillion liegen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how do I retrieve missing "test" folders
Hello Jerry, On Wed, 5 May 2004 12:53:55 -0700 GMT (06/05/2004, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Jerry wrote: J> How do I get access to the messages in my folders named "test"? Do this: With a good file manager (OK, it also works with Windows Epxlorer), copy the file messages.tbb to a safe location while TB is closed. A good idea is to also delete the two files, messages.tbb and messages.tbi, in the original location. Open TB. Delete the folder "test". Create a new folder for the same purpose but call it something else. "Test1" should do, but more phantasy is better. Close TB. With your preferred file manager, overwrite the new messages.tbb (for the newly created folder) with your original file, which is in that safe location. Delete the file messages.tbi. Open TB. Magically, find all your messages in the newly created folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next!" They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error creating ...\mail\BayesIt folder on startup?!
Hi Cory, On Thu, 06 May 2004, at 11:07:32 [GMT+0200] (which was 19:07:32 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > Anyone knows what I should do to correct / prevent this error? Upgrade to 2.10.03 might fix? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It's as easy as 3.14159265358979323846... Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error creating ...\mail\BayesIt folder on startup?!
Hi TBUDLler, I don't think this is correct, but I can't get it corrected either... When starting BT v2.10.01 everytime I get the noted error in a small dialog behind the splash screen; clicking OK continues the startup, and it seems TB is doing it's job nicely after. If ...\mail\BayesIt does not exists (eg. I rename or remove the folder), TB creates this folder by itself - and at nest start, complains about the existing folder again... This filtering has never been used by me, and AFAIK it's not enabled. Anyone knows what I should do to correct / prevent this error? Thanks! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
