Re: Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
Hello Watcher everyone else, on 17-Dez-2004 at 21:10 you (Watcher) wrote: I don't know of any desktop spam filter with Bayes analysis that comes Wow, that is strange to hear, it worked the instant I installed it, I trained it very little and it has been doing well. Thats not so strange - I don't know how BayesIt actually works, but I think everything is considered ham until you re-classify it. :) Of course I have NO email offers that I consider non-spam, I don't want to be 'kept up to date', when I need something I'll start looking, not get what someone sent to my desktop to sell me something. Maybe that is part of the reason? The success of any Bayes filter is dependant on one's email profile, and undoubtfully a consistent classification by the end-user is necessary. Its surprising however how precise PopFile can classify mails (PopFile can not only keep ham and spam apart, but classify mails into groups that you define yourself). If I start having problems, I'll download K9 as you suggested, it looks fine except that it's external which will be a bit more of a pain. As it is now, both have their pros cons... BayesIt integrates nicely into TB, K9 has a much better configuration interface. I actually find it easier to re-classify a mail with K9 than with BI. BayesIt needs better integration into TB, but I think that is not the problem of TB but rather the plugin interface. For example, I'd like to have some buttons for classification in the mail viewer and preview pane, and not nested in some right-click menu. I'd also like to see the score of each message in TB, and not only in the logfiles of BI. For me, K9's interface is simply better for that. PopFile's interface statistics are unrivalled IMHO, but then again, the program is so slow, it hurts. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 de la Lastra's Corollary: After an access cover has been secured by 16 hold-down screws, it will be discovered that the gasket has been ommitted. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I start?
Hello Darrin, A reminder of what Darrin on TBUDL typed on: 18 December 2004 at 05:55:57 GMT +0100 D Hello , D Whats a good place to start learning about TB! Any good sites? Here is about the best place, or you could try.. http://www.silverstones.com/#thebat -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 18/12/2004 at 09:46 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgpO20GyXHHCE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do I start?
Hello Darrin everyone else, on 18-Dez-2004 at 05:54 you (Darrin) wrote: Whats a good place to start learning about TB! Any good sites? There's the WIKI at http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp ...always in the making but the articles cover the most important things. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together. -- G. C. Lichtenburg Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade from home to pro?
Hello tbudl, Im using the trial version of tbat now. If I decide to purchase the pro, must I install that one first? or can I just enter the pro license into this version? -- Best regards, Darrin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I get my PGP 8.1 to work with TB?
Hello tbudl, I cant seem to get it to use it as my default PGP. Any Ideas? -- Best regards, Darrin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I get my PGP 8.1 to work with TB?
Hello Darrin everyone else, on 18-Dez-2004 at 15:23 you (Darrin) wrote: I cant seem to get it to use it as my default PGP. Any Ideas? Check that Tools | OpenPGP | Choose OpenPGP version is set to PGP 5/6/7/8 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Big Men Cry by Banco de Gaia from the 1998 album 'Earth Dance (CD 2)' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I get my PGP 8.1 to work with TB?
Hello Darrin, A reminder of what Darrin on TBUDL typed on: 18 December 2004 at 15:24:12 GMT +0100 D I cant seem to get it to use it as my default PGP. Any Ideas? Try ToolsOpenPGPChoose version -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 18/12/2004 at 14:39 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt pgp98NNPX2n2P.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is this symbol in signature?
Hello TBUDL, What exactly does this symbol do in the signature ( %- ) *without parenthesis. -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpFAvtzFcsxv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is this symbol in signature?
On Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 10:41:09 AM [GMT -0500], Darrin Rich wrote: What exactly does this symbol do in the signature ( %- ) *without parenthesis. It nullifies the newline feed that comes after it. So in your template, a line break is there, but it's not generated in the template output. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . Hm..what's this red button fo:=/07NO CARRIER «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 · ThunderBird v0.9 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is this symbol in signature?
Hello Darrin Rich everyone else, on 18-Dez-2004 at 16:41 you (Darrin Rich) wrote: What exactly does this symbol do in the signature ( %- ) *without parenthesis. Its good for macro stacking if you want to keep the code tidier and easier to understand. This code %- tells TB to continue with the output right at this point, despite the presence of a linefeed. For example, if you want to add a header in your messages, your reply template could look like this: .- | %SetHeader(X-Binford,More Power!)%- | Hello dear %OFROMNAME, `- This way, your message will start with Hello dear... on the *first* line, because %- prevents the linefeed to be inserted, and you'll have a less cryptic template layout. To get the same result without %- you'd write .- | %SetHeader(X-Binford,More Power!)Hello dear %OFROMNAME, `- ...which is maybe not as readable as the two-line version (this is a rather simple example, you can think of more complex setups, of course). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Brainwaves by Cosmosis from the 2000 album 'Intergalactic' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from home to pro?
Hallo Darrin, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:56:56 -0800GMT (18-12-2004, 14:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D Im using the trial version of tbat now. If I decide to purchase the D pro, must I install that one first? or can I just enter the pro D license into this version? You can simply enter the pro license number, the home and pro installation files contain the same executable for TB. The only difference between the two installation packages is that the pro version contains additional languages, but you can download the international pack for those too. (It works for home users too.) TB's real pro features are unleashed by the license code. -- Groetjes, Roelof sorry, I don't date outside my species The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpcNoxU0POWP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 18 Oct 2004, @ @ at 21:04:27 +0200, when Peter Palmreuther wrote: - PGP-Desktop is as expensive as DriveCrypt, the successor of Scramdisk, but you get not only the disk encrypter, but a general (including, but not limited to communication-) encrypter as well. Just to add shortly that I found that PGP 6.0.2i, coming with PGPdisk, is free, and that's the way how I solved use of an encrypted volume I keep TB and Mail in, under both XP and Win98Se. I took this version of PGP just because of this PGPdisk, while still prefer (tiny and mighty) GnuPG for all other things. (-: Thanks a lot for all the rest you did write; I'm still thinking about it and am rummaging around. Ah yes, for those interested in this version of PGP, the download link is ftp://ftp.de.pgpi.org/pub/pgp/6.0/6.0.2i/PGPfreeware602i.exe. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :banana: [Earth LOG: 108 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBxGA09q62QPd3XuIRAiamAJ4tCp60/c+UUq1dDuMgcs92+V3NJQCfbmke Vp9qZh4tU6WV4zgqkpVB5S8= =WOVY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
Hello Mica, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:52:05 +0100GMT (18-12-2004, 17:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ...snip ftp://ftp.de.pgpi.org/pub/pgp/6.0/6.0.2i/PGPfreeware602i.exe does not work :-( -- Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.2.10nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://gswot.webhop.info/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
Hello Henk, Saturday, December 18, 2004, 10:18:34 AM, you wrote: HdB ftp://ftp.de.pgpi.org/pub/pgp/6.0/6.0.2i/PGPfreeware602i.exe HdB does not work :-( Try: ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/ -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BayesIt! 0.5.5 Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 18 Dec 2004, @ @ at 19:18:34 +0100, when Henk de Bruijn wrote: Hello Mica, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:52:05 +0100GMT (18-12-2004, 17:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ...snip ftp://ftp.de.pgpi.org/pub/pgp/6.0/6.0.2i/PGPfreeware602i.exe does not work :-( It worked on Sat Oct 16 2004 for me. I admit that most German FTP servers work very slow for me, but must be there are other places this version can be found. Try to google a bit by the file name, or try again the link. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :happypiglet: [Earth LOG: 108 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBxHtC9q62QPd3XuIRAqXWAJ47VBKyXFY2J/Wiu7xvQbaytVWYpQCgkQm3 PBTb7lHEN1al1WBBIVcujNo= =sZ+X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Scott, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:31:58 -0800GMT (18-12-2004, 19:31 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Try: ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/ Thanks! - -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.2.10nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://gswot.webhop.info/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBxIG9Egabk9vm5ngRApHQAKC+UnsiyAIYC6e7w9Bi9PmqmIGkBACg7NIs BoByFTWwu3nJVwOi9hl5efg= =1H1K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pgp Software
Hello Mica, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:47:31 +0100GMT (18-12-2004, 19:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: It worked on Sat Oct 16 2004 for me. I admit that most German FTP servers work very slow for me, but must be there are other places this version can be found. Try to google a bit by the file name, or try again the link. Thanks, Scott helped me with an alternative address. Downloaded it.. -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.2.10nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust GSWoT http://gswot.webhop.info/ A Progressive and Innovative Web of Trust Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View Mode Unstable
Any instructions for view modes in column headers? Mine seem to apply the first one saved to all folders, even when specific mode pretends to be applied. E.g. Created an Inbox Mode and a SentMode, saved and set to apply to particular folders, but whichever was last used applies to all folders. This is a new problem since moving to Version 3. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...When you see the handwriting on the wall, you can bet you're in a public restroom. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Upgrade from home to pro?
Hello Roelof, Saturday, December 18, 2004, 8:50:58 AM, you wrote: RO You can simply enter the pro license number, the home and pro RO installation files contain the same executable for TB. RO The only difference between the two installation packages is that the RO pro version contains additional languages, but you can download the RO international pack for those too. (It works for home users too.) RO TB's real pro features are unleashed by the license code. What are the real pro features? I didnt see a whole lot of usefull differences between the pro and home edition. Am I missing something? -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from home to pro?
Hallo Darrin, On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:19:36 -0800GMT (19-12-2004, 7:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DR What are the real pro features? I didnt see a whole lot of usefull DR differences between the pro and home edition. Am I missing something? On the fly encryption hardware token support Only security related issues. -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: Fading Into Discreet Obsolescence The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpqwsVCDGjxP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Upgrade from home to pro?
Hello Roelof, Saturday, December 18, 2004, 10:43:51 PM, you wrote: RO On the fly encryption RO hardware token support RO Only security related issues. Sorry for being so lame, but what is On the fly encryption? Im just trying to decide which version I should get. -- Best regards, Darrin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from home to pro?
Darrin Rich @ 2004-Dec-19 1:46:23 AM Upgrade from home to pro? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for being so lame, but what is On the fly encryption? Simply put, your message base is encrypted. In the regular version of The Bat!, the message base is stored unencrypted. Anyone with a text editor and the proper permissions can read your downloaded e-mail. As I see it, there are two ways to decrypt the message base. You can either enter your password or insert a hardware token (usually a USB key-like device). -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. pgpidDA18JXJM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
