Re[2]: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Chris, Friday, December 24, 2004, 6:55:11 PM, you wrote: Allie Martin @ 2004-Dec-24 6:30:28 AM G-Mail... Again! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you PGP/MIME or S/MIME sign your messages to TBOT, the ads will not appear as footers. That may work on TBOT, but not on other Yahoo Group lists. People using other e-mail clients, especially Outlook Express, freak out when they get a PGP/MIME message. I have seen this esp those who use OE which doesn't verify S/Mime messages with multiple email addresses in the key :) Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 The Hardy Boys, The Barbie Twins, And The Vice Squad smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Watcher, Friday, December 24, 2004, 3:25:42 PM, you wrote: Hello Tony, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, at 09:57:28 [GMT +] (10:24 AM here) you wrote: TF I just don't like them to parse my emails for marketing purposes. I'm not sure they do. Everyone keeps on about G-Mail adverts etc. and I can't remember ever seeing any or anything else untoward. S, you're saying you have finally found the very first totally free email service? /sarcasm off They make money on it or they would't do it, simple as that. Most free email services have some type of advertising, Googles is actually very low key Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 If your neighbor offend you, give each of his children bagpipes. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Tony, Friday, December 24, 2004, 8:13:47 PM, you wrote: Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris on TBUDL typed on: 24 December 2004 at 19:56:20 GMT +0100 C People C using other e-mail clients, especially Outlook Express, freak out when C they get a PGP/MIME message. Ah bless :) I know, I get this on the Mdaemon beta list :) Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 For people who like peace and quiet: a phoneless cord. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Mica, Friday, December 24, 2004, 2:15:32 PM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 24 Dec 2004, @ @ at 13:07:34 +, when Sean Rima wrote: Hello Tony, Hello Leif, Q Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other Q one? Talking of which, I now have another 12, yes twelve more invites to give away. Yeah I just got 6 to get rid of, anyone please PLEASE :) Pretend you are dead. Maybe they will not bother you anymore. (-: ROTFL, yeah that would be one way :) Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Cats took many thousands of years to domesticate humans. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie, On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, at 00:19:26 [GMT -0500] (4:38 AM here) you wrote: Again, I don't see a difference *from a money POV*. There is no difference from a money POV either way money is made and that's fine, the issue is with the privacy POV and I agree with him completely. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpvKzuc9loJT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Tony, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, at 20:11:21 [GMT +] (4:47 AM here) you wrote: W They make money on it or they would't do it, simple as that. So you get up for work every day, do a hard days work whatever it is and you don't expect to get paid for it? Ok, if you read what is written, I did not judge if making money in this statement was a good thing or not, simply stating the fact that money was being made or they wouldn't be doing it, you read into it that I was saying making money on it was bad. *evil grin* What really fascinates me is the amount of people who want everything for nothing regardless of the cost to anyone else. Fact is you don't actually have to pay for software anymore if you really don't want to because there are hacks and cracks out there for pretty much anything, including TB. Realizing this, any paid for software is voluntary even if it's not shareware to anyone that wants to become aware and doesn't have issues with such things. I don't expect anything for nothing, if I like something I pay for it. If I can get something for nothing at the expense of the odd I think the point being made here by others and now myself is not the cost of having the odd advert to view (those are avoidable with filters) but the privacy issues of having your private mail (not list mail) scanned with Gmail. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpNFhwsUK3Fa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hæ! Friday, December 24, 2004, 23:26, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I have my own domain. I pay money for it. Thats my decision. However, I have no choice with Google scanning my mails to show ads to the recipient. For me, and maybe for me alone, thats a completely different league. What about the official scanning of all emails for security reasons after January 1st in Germany? TKÜV E-Mail Überwachung... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folders disappear
On Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 2:38:40 AM [GMT -0500], Ken Green wrote: Anyone? I read your plea, but disappearing folders isn't one of my current TB! IMAP maladies. Sounds awful though and I can't think of what would be causing it. :/ -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . There is no dark side of the moon. Really. «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else, on 25-Dez-2004 at 11:35 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote: I have my own domain. I pay money for it. Thats my decision. However, I have no choice with Google scanning my mails to show ads to the recipient. For me, and maybe for me alone, thats a completely different league. What about the official scanning of all emails for security reasons after January 1st in Germany? TKÜV E-Mail Überwachung... Good that you mention it. There's a lot of misunderstanding are paranoia about this at the moment. I hope I can put it into understandably english (I'll stop public replies to this topic after this one, promised). In short (way OT) - monitoring of telecommunications is already allowed for law enforcement, it is existing law. Just like telephone companies must make it possible for officials (after a judical decision) to tap into a phoneline, email providers with more than 1000 clients must make it *technically* possible that officials can monitor email traffic of crime suspects. The TKÜV means that email providers *must* supply ways for law enforcement to actually monitor - BUT that monitoring will only happen after a judical decision. By no means all mails are scanned just in case. Further information: http://www.regtp.de/tech_reg_tele/start/in_06-09-00-00-00_m/index.html (german site, of course) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 It is not because he is a good worker that he is prosperous, but because he dreamed. -- Lost Star Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 25-Dez-2004 at 06:18 you (Allie Martin) wrote: I back up *my* mail. *My* e-mail, and not all the mail of which copies were sent to me and that aren't really mine. :) If you send me a message, the message I get is mine, isn't it? I do have the feeling however that your ethics wouldn't allow you to use the mail you received, or parts thereof, to create an income. And I hope I'm not wrong. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.10 Home on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Arcana Coelestica: Archbishop - A Christian ecclesiastic of a rank superior to that obtained by Christ. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
On Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 7:23:52 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I do have the feeling however that your ethics wouldn't allow you to use the mail you received, or parts thereof, to create an income. And I hope I'm not wrong. Sure. I'm not providing a service to others. OTOH, GMail offers a service, and offerings like that on a mass scale, are never charitable. They make money. In this case it's from advertising and parsing of the mail of their subscribers. In your ISP's case, it's from direct monetary payment from you and their other customers. -- Cheers, -= Allie =- . A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. «·» IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro · OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anyone know the font that is used in the splash screen?
Hello TBUDL, Im making a wallpaper for my desktop with TB! Theme. Im looking for the font that is used on the splash screen that reads The Bat!. Anyone know what font it is? -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Made a TB! Wallpaper.
Hello TBUDL, I did this primarily for myself but uploaded it if anyone here is interested. Nothing big, but I like it. www.sidnak.net/tb_wallpaper.zip -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgprpiCWKoD6O.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie, On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:18:18 -0500 GMT (25/12/2004, 12:18 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: *you* get a free service, and then I send you an email, they will parse *my* email as well. I never agreed to that, so what do you want to answer to me? Is it still only up to you? AM I back up *my* mail. *My* e-mail, and not all the mail of which copies AM were sent to me and that aren't really mine. :) If you send me a AM message, the message I get is mine, isn't it? I'm not sure what you are saying. If you are saying that any message that you receive from me (either by TO, CC or BCC) is your and you can do with it what you want, that's OK with me. I didn't send it to the ISP for the purpose of parsing it for their data mining purposes, though. If you agree that any mail sent to you can be parsed, you agree on my behalf that the contents of my message to you can be used by thrid parties, and you never asked me in advance. I know that the ISP can read the email anyway, very much like the post office can read a postcard. I am not sure about your country, but the postman is not allowed to read a postcard, even though he can. On top of that, he is not allowed to use the information in the postcard for his own profit. Having said all that, I agree that once the message that I sent to you is on your computer, you can do with it what you want. For example, you can edit the subject line to make it easier for you to search for it. Alas, TB's anti-edit advocates see that differently... -- Cheers, Thomas. Der Angeklagte unterhielt mit mir bis zum 7. Monat einen intimen Kontakt und fuhr dann zu einer anderen Arbeitsstelle. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
