Re: DynBat ...

2005-02-12 Thread David Boggon

Hi Mark,

at 9:37 AM (my time) on Saturday 12/2/05 you wrote:

MP I only took a quick look at the page (didn't try DynBat), but, unless I am
MP mistaken, it writes to the registry (it doesn't overwrite regular TB!'s
MP keys).

This isn't clear from the Googlised translation, you're right. Page
three of the DynaBat details seems to give a pretty clear outline of
what it does when it opens and closes, however. We need a more
intelligent translation ; )

Page 1 of the DynBat details page (here in original):
http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=120

says of the benefits of DynBat over The Batch:

 * DynBat bring along its own Registry
 * DynBat secures existing Registryinformationen
 * DynBat does not overwrite existing TheBat! Registrierungsinformationen

 Somt can be used USB stick an installation also at a PC, on that
 already TheBat! one installed.

Perhaps that answers your question.


MP What happens when you use the USB-stick on another computer, then? Does it
MP leave traces in the registry there too?

The page mentioned above (in Google-speak) says:

 Which procedures run off, after TheBat! one terminated?

 * The Registry safety devices become rotary secured
 * from tb4.reg tb5.reg becomes.
 * from tb3.reg tb4.reg becomes
 * etc. etc..
 * the same applies to the BayesFilter Registry files (bf4.reg becomes 
 bf5.reg, etc..)
 * The Registry of TheBat! to tb1.reg one exports
 * The Registry of BayesFilter is exported to bf1.reg
 * The two Registry keys are removed
 * If safety devices of existing Registry keys were made before these are 
 now repaired.
 * DynBat is terminated now likewise.


The Batch also deletes its traces (from the readme file):

 After installing The Batch!, when you want to run The Bat!, you
 double-click on thebatch.exe and that loads your The Bat! settings
 from 1.reg to the registry and starts thebat.exe. When you exit
 The Bat! the loader saves the settings to 1.reg and deletes the
 settings in the registry, leaving the computer without trails of The
 Bat! (unless you made The Bat! the default email manager).


But 'The Batch', according to Thomas, doesn't have the functionality
of DYnBat in terms of BayesIT, and various registry details I don't
understand (see the details page of dynbat). Though it seems you can
have a local version to TB installed on the machine you run DynBat
without it interfering.

Would be good to hear from someone who's using it ?

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%TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbudl,

  I have in my New template the following:

Hello %TOFNAME,

If the person I am sending to is in the address book as follows:

 First name:  John
 Last Name:   Doe
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I send mail and start typing in the TO: name as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
then tab into the body of the message I end up with:

Hello abc,

Why is this and how do I fix it?

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stuart,

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:41:27 -0600 GMT (12/02/2005, 21:41 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

SC Hello %TOFNAME,

This will take the first name of the TO address. In case there is no
name, it will take the part of the email address before the @.

SC If the person I am sending to is in the address book as follows:

SC  First name:  John
SC  Last Name:   Doe
SC  E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want John, you need the macro %ABTOFirstName instead. This
will look for the first name as stored in the addressbook.

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Cheers,
Thomas.

Deine Stereoanlage hat aber viele Knoepfe! - Na, ja, mit
Reissverschluss saehe sie ja auch ziemlich bloed aus.

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Peter Hampf
Good evening Stuart,

on Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:41:27 -0600 GMT your local time you wrote:

SC Why is this and how do I fix it?

Use this:

Hello %ABTOFirstName(%TOFName),

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Re[2]: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Peter,
Saturday, February 12, 2005, 10:54:49 AM, you wrote:

Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand typed on:
  February 12, 2005 at 17:54:49 GMT +0100

SC Why is this and how do I fix it?

PO Use %AbToFirstName

Ahh, and the light came on.


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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Hampf  everyone else,

on 12-Feb-2005 at 17:56 you (Peter Hampf) wrote:

 Use this:
 Hello %ABTOFirstName(%TOFName),

Interesting. All these years, and I just now had a closer look at this one.
Very clever solution. Thanks for posting it!

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 13 February 2005, 1:41:27 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 When I send mail and start typing in the TO: name as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 then tab into the body of the message I end up with:

 Hello abc,

 Why is this and how do I fix it?

You could use my Greet All Recipients QT in the macro and QT library
(http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php). What it does is:
   * automatically put multiple recipients on the greeting line (eg
 Hello George, Alan, Katie,)
   * for each person select the name used in the following order:
  1. If there is a line aka: nickname in the addressbook memo
 field, it will use nickname
  2. If there is no nickname, it will use the firstname in the
 addressbook
  3. If there is no firstname in the addressbook, it will use the
 %ToFName macro

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Re[2]: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Robin,

  A reminder of what Robin Anson typed on:
  February 12, 2005 at 10:45:09 GMT +1100

RA You could use my Greet All Recipients QT in the macro and QT library
RA (http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php). What it does is:
RA* automatically put multiple recipients on the greeting line (eg
RA  Hello George, Alan, Katie,)
RA* for each person select the name used in the following order:
RA   1. If there is a line aka: nickname in the addressbook memo
RA  field, it will use nickname
RA   2. If there is no nickname, it will use the firstname in the
RA  addressbook
RA   3. If there is no firstname in the addressbook, it will use the
RA  %ToFName macro

I like this method, however when I use it my cursor ends up about 7
lines down the page. Am I doing something wrong. My template is as
follows.
-
%QINCLUDE=Greet_All_Recipients %-
  %Cursor

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Best regards,
-

And to offer you a further challenge, if I address it to a group of
people it seems to have no greeting at all.

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 13 February 2005, 11:26:35 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 I like this method, however when I use it my cursor ends up about 7
 lines down the page. Am I doing something wrong. My template is as
 follows.
 -
 %QINCLUDE=Greet_All_Recipients %-
   %Cursor

 -- 
 Best regards,
 -

Hmm, don't know why that happens. It doesn't to me - did you edit the QT
at all?

 And to offer you a further challenge, if I address it to a group of
 people it seems to have no greeting at all.

Yes, there is a line in the QT
%_GAR_Max=4%-
that defines the maximum number of names that you want to appear on the
greeting line. Change that value 4 if you want to see more. Personally,
4 is about the maximum number of names I want to see before it becomes
slightly absurd.

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sat 12-Feb-05 8:55pm -0600, Robin Anson wrote:

 Hmm, don't know why that happens. It doesn't to me - did you edit the QT
 at all?

I have not tried that macro, but it appears CRs are
added in several of the last few lines.

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Filters (RegEx?)

2005-02-12 Thread Richard H. Stoddard
I'm trying to filter out the remaining junk mail that gets by BayesIt
(and K9), the most prevalent of which are messages that have my e-mail
address but a name other than mine. (I've already filtered out mail that
doesn't have my e-mail address in the recipient field.) I tried to
read the instructions for RegEx, but just came away totally confused.
Is there a simple way to do this?

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Re: %TOFNAME

2005-02-12 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 13 February 2005, 14:45:41 +1000, Bill Mccarthy wrote:
 I have not tried that macro, but it appears CRs are
 added in several of the last few lines.

Yes there may be a problem in there, although that should just put a
couple of blank lines after the greeting and before the cursor. If
Stuart continues to have a problem there, I will try to debug it again.
My version is slightly changed from the one in the library at that
particular point.

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