Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 9:46 PM, you wrote: SC>> Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. > Thanks Mary, Dwight and Thomas. Food for thought, although it looks to > me like I will stay as I am. It's possible that I will change, having read Thomas's thoughtful analysis and the explanations from Roelof Otten, Miguel A. Urech, and Peter Palmreuther on the similar thread on TBBETA. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 Return RC9 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36:53 PM, you wrote: SC> Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. Thanks Mary, Dwight and Thomas. Food for thought, although it looks to me like I will stay as I am. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart, On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:36:53 -0500 GMT (13/05/2005, 01:36 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC> I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been SC> contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of SC> the advantages/disadvantages? Advantage of keeping them seperately: o The message base itself is not so huge, making searching faster o You can search in DOS/Windows for the file name and use (for example open, copy etc) it without having to search through the TB database. o When you open them from the message by double-clicking on the attachment icon, the file name will be shown (as opposed some temp file name like 3df545m.doc). Advantage of keeping them in message body: o That's where they belong. It don't want every attachment (incredimail.gif) stored. Leave it in the message and I delete it if I want, no extra files flying around. SC> Do all accounts share the same attachment folder or is it by account SC> or by folder? One attachments folder per account. SC> I assume if you store them separately that the original message has SC> a pointer to the attachment? Yes. SC> What happens when you receive 2 attachments in separate messages SC> that are named the same thing. Does one overwrite the other? No. First attachment mypicture.jpg is stored under this name, the second picture with the same name is stored as mypicture1.jpg. And this defeats the whole purpose of the second advantage mentioned above. I used to store attachments seperately, but have since changed to store them in message body. There was also another issue (don't know whether it has been solved in the meantime): When you deleted the message, the attachment was sometimes orphaned in the attachment folder, filling it up over time. Another problem was with moving or copying messages, the attachment should be moved/copied too (what if I copy within the same account?). Since I have no problems with huge tbb files (they don't corrupt, and search is still very fast), I am happy with storing attachments in the body. There is the one odd attachment per day that I want to use as a file, I just right-click on the attachment and choose "save as" - this way, I can also choose the directory I want and don't need to copy from the attachment directory. -- Cheers, Thomas. Follow a few paces behind someone, spraying everything they touch with a can of Lysol. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Desktop Search Tools)
Hallo Steve, On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:02:56 +0100GMT (12-5-2005, 23:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SL> test it I will gladly do it. SL> Best wishes, SL> Steve Lee SL> http://jumbocruiser.com SL> Tel +44 7768 211612 SL> SL> Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. )<)))'> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpri96Os62Rf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Desktop Search Tools
>> Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. > > I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. I also have the Pro version and can not get it to work. Real shame. If the author would like me to pay for an upgrade to Pro so he can test it I will gladly do it. Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Alexander, On 12 May 2005, 16:32 you wrote: >> I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed >> under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? >> If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? > You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, > regsvr32 /s GoogleDesktopCantRemember.dll - make sure that TB is NOT > running when you do this. When you're done and you restart TB the plugin > will be automatically added (at least thats how it was here - how this > works I don't know, but it works). > Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "There are no hopeless situations: there are only men who have grown hopeless about them." CLAIRE BOOTH LUCE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC8 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36:53 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have > been contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are > some of the advantages/disadvantages? I used to keep mine separately, but got tired of going back and deleting all the graphics files which came with html spam. I was getting spam.gif, spam1.gif, spam2.gif, etc. Similar problem with those pesky .msg files, and even all the .png files from tbbeta. I was on a mailing list where some people had their .vcf files attached to every post and those would stack up as well. And I can't tell you how many copies of that blue sky with a few clouds background for Outlook mail I would accumulate between housecleanings. I'm much happier now that I have taken to keeping messages with attachments. I should add that when I started with TB! I was certain that storing separately was the way to go, and I did it that way for a long time. If it wasn't for all that html spam I suppose I still would. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 1:36 PM, you wrote: > Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. I will try, for the few that I know the answer to. > I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been > contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of > the advantages/disadvantages? I keep mine separately. I don't know whether it's true, but my reason is that I think they would be easier to retrieve from the backup file, if necessary. > Do all accounts share the same attachment folder or is it by account > or by folder? Each account has a separate Attachments folder. I've just looked in my TB! directory--the path is The Bat!/MAIL/m.bull/Attach, and they are all accessible, a separate file to each attachment, arranged numerically/alphabetically. > I assume if you store them separately that the original message has > a pointer to the attachment? The original message keeps its attachment icon. So, I can look in my sister's folder in my m.bull account on TB!'s folder tree, and have another look from there at her Retirement "honors" poem, without having saved that attachment file in "My Documents" or wherever, necessitating a search through one of my text editors/word processors. To me it's the best of both worlds--attachment available through my TB! folder for my sister, or, if I've saved it, through opening it in a text editor. Further, even if I didn't save it and I remember what she named it when she sent it to me, I can ask Word or Open Office to look in C:/Program Files/The Bat!!/MAIL/m.bull/Attach, and retrieve it to the word processor that way. > What happens when you receive 2 attachments in separate messages > that are named the same thing. Does one overwrite the other? I don't know. I'll try an experiment with that, with some mails to myself, and see if I can report back to you later on what happens. > TIA You're welcome. However, others may know more about the mechanics of this and the advantages/disadvantages than I do. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments
Hello TBUDL, Can someone answer a couple of questions about attachments. I currently keep my attachments with my messages, but have been contemplating the idea of keeping them separate. What are some of the advantages/disadvantages? Do all accounts share the same attachment folder or is it by account or by folder? I assume if you store them separately that the original message has a pointer to the attachment? What happens when you receive 2 attachments in separate messages that are named the same thing. Does one overwrite the other? TIA -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl & everyone else, on 12-Mai-2005 at 00:10 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote: >> So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! > I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed > under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? > If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, regsvr32 /s GoogleDesktopCantRemember.dll - make sure that TB is NOT running when you do this. When you're done and you restart TB the plugin will be automatically added (at least thats how it was here - how this works I don't know, but it works). Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I don't believe in the generation gap. I believe in Regeneration gaps. Every day you regenerate, or else you're not living. (Duke Ellington) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alter/remove headers in received mail?
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 7:37:28 PM, Robin wrote: RA> On Thu 12 May 2005, 17:00:22 +1000, Allister Jenks wrote: >> How can I modify a received email's headers? RA> I use a manual filter that writes the email to a file in unix mailbox RA> format, opens my text editor and then when the editor closes, imports it RA> back into the inbox. This format preserves the received date/time and RA> all headers. Brilliant! I managed to learn a few things about filter syntax along the way too, as I adapted it for my accounts, folders and TextPad. I can see this meeting some other needs too. Thanks. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alter/remove headers in received mail?
On Thu 12 May 2005, 17:00:22 +1000, Allister Jenks wrote:
> How can I modify a received email's headers? Ideally, I would want to
> mark the header in some way to avoid it being filtered as spam but still
> show PopFile's original classification. Worst case, if I could just
> remove the PopFile header it would at least stop the refilter problem.
I use a manual filter that writes the email to a file in unix mailbox
format, opens my text editor and then when the editor closes, imports it
back into the inbox. This format preserves the received date/time and
all headers.
The filter (below) writes the email to e:\my documents\temp\edit.txt,
then fires up a batch file d:\batch\editmsg.cmd with the parameter
personal (the name of the account that it is to import it back into).
The hotkey is Ctrl-Shift-Alt-E.
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [E7858CF0.01C4B812.395665F4.7EE60FC6]
Name: Edit\20Message
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`\0D\0A}
ExportMessage OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename
e:\5CMy\20Documents\5Ctemp\5Cedit.txt
MarkRead
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CPersonal\5CTrash
RunExternal RunHidden CmdLine d:\5Cbatch\5Ceditmsg.cmd\20personal
IsManual
IsActive
IsHotkey
IsHotkeyOnly
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
The editmsg.cmd fires up UltraEdit, and automatically loads a set of
macros that I have set up. If you use UltraEdit, I can send you a copy.
I use the macros to automatically link and break threading in TB!, and
change popfile classifications.
If you don't use UltraEdit, you will need to change the first line of
the batch file to reflect your editor of choice.
,- [ editmsg.cmd ]
| "D:\Program Files\UltraEdit\UEDIT32.EXE" /M="d:\batch\thebat.mac/null" "e:\My
Documents\temp\edit.txt"
| "d:\program files\the bat!\thebat.exe" /importU="%1";f="Inbox";X;IN="e:\My
Documents\temp\edit.txt"
`-
--
Robin
Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Alter/remove headers in received mail?
Hello TBUDLers, I have PopFile marking my spam with a header which I then catch with a TB! filter and send the way of the trash. On the odd occasion where PopFile gives a false positive I simply drag the email back to the inbox. However, recently I wrote a new filter and while re-filtering the inbox to apply the filter, all those false positives leapt back into the trash! Fortunately I spotted this by checking the log. How can I modify a received email's headers? Ideally, I would want to mark the header in some way to avoid it being filtered as spam but still show PopFile's original classification. Worst case, if I could just remove the PopFile header it would at least stop the refilter problem. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
