Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:44:47 +0200, Anthony G. Atkielski  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Scandisk is not even part of XP.



Well, whatever it's called now ... I haven't run it in quite some
time.


Ah, you simply meant the disk checker. Lets avoid confusion of the
innocent people here:

- chkdsk.exe (Checkdisk) is the disk checker of Windows NT4 and above
  (NT5 = Windows 2000, NT5.1 = Windows XP, NT5.2 = Server 2003)

- scandisk.exe (Scandisk) is the disk checker of the W9x series
  (Windows 95, Windows 98  98SE, Windows ME... aka the obsolete
  16bit graphical front-ends for the 8bit DOS *gg*)

The two are totally different programs. You can't run scandisk.exe on
NTFS file systems.

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Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Anthony,

Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 10:47:36 PM, you wrote:

AGA Well, the only real protection against this sort of thing is more
AGA frequent backups.  Otherwise, obviously you risk losing whatever
AGA you've done since the last backup.

Long time no see, Anthony!

This is true. I am in the habit of doing a full back-up of TB! daily,
to a secondary, data-only hard drive.


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Mod: Cut mark (was: Oops!! Power Failure)

2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Robert,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:12:41 -0500GMT (24-8-2005, 13:12 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RCW This is true. I am in the habit of doing a full back-up of TB! daily,
RCW to a secondary, data-only hard drive.


RCW -wittig http://www.robertwittig.com/
RCW .


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Bat! web site down

2005-08-24 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans,
 Am I the only one getting a temporarily unavailable message?

 Site is temporarily anavailable.(sic) Please try again later!

 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Oops!! Power Failure)

2005-08-24 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 6:29:55 AM, you wrote:

RO Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
RO of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line.
RO This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
RO the signature and list footers since everything below and including
RO the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

Done!

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Re: Bat! web site down

2005-08-24 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, August 24, 2005, John Phillips wrote:

  Am I the only one getting a temporarily unavailable message?

no, database is probably down.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

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Re: Bat! web site down

2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo John,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:36:08 +1000GMT (24-8-2005, 13:36 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JP  Am I the only one getting a temporarily unavailable message?

No

JP  Site is temporarily anavailable.(sic) Please try again later!

Same for me. I suppose Ritlabs is on it.

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The Bat 3.5 crashing at startup

2005-08-24 Thread Bodemann Joern

Hi,

is there any file I can delete to stop The Bat! from crashing at startup? I
am using BIN_FILE_VERSION=5.1.2600.2180. I use IMAP.

Thanks, Jörn Bodemann


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Re: The Bat 3.5 crashing at startup

2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bodemann,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:27:04 +0200GMT (24-8-2005, 14:27 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BJ is there any file I can delete to stop The Bat! from crashing at startup? I
BJ am using BIN_FILE_VERSION=5.1.2600.2180. I use IMAP.

Try to re-install it.

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Mod: Cut mark (was: The Bat 3.5 crashing at startup)

2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bodemann,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:27:04 +0200GMT (24-8-2005, 14:27 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BJ am using BIN_FILE_VERSION=5.1.2600.2180. I use IMAP.

BJ Thanks, Jörn Bodemann

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This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
the signature and list footers since everything below and including
the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
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Re: what's the cheapest way to get a TB license?

2005-08-24 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 7:07:24 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote:

 My girlfriend used to use TB! here on my PC for her mails, but now
 she got herself a notebook and AFAIK she can't use my TB on that,
 right? She wants to switch to Opera M2 or Thunderbird and I want to keep or 
 using TB.

I thought that the TB licence allowed it to be installed on a laptop
as well as a desktop machine as long as you were not using both at the
same time.  I cannot find the original license text to verify this,
however.

I need to installed the updated v3.51 on my wife's laptop (separate
license) later, so I will see what the license agreement says.

Julian

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Re: The Bat 3.5 crashing at startup

2005-08-24 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Bodemann,

  A reminder of what Bodemann Joern typed on:
  Wednesday, August 24, 2005 at 14:27:04 GMT +0200

BJ is there any file I can delete to stop The Bat! from crashing at startup? I
BJ am using BIN_FILE_VERSION=5.1.2600.2180. I use IMAP.

I have noticed that it could be just one file in your mail base. You
can try renaming your Mail folder then starting TB to see if this
solves it. If it does name it Mail again and then rename each account
until you find the one causing the problem.

If you then find the problem account it is likely one of the config
files in this account causing the problem. Renaming these one at a
time may track down the culprit.

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Re: The Bat 3.5 crashing at startup

2005-08-24 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 7:27:04 AM, Bodemann Joern wrote:

 is there any file I can delete to stop The Bat! from crashing at
 startup?

Try deleting or renaming the bayesit folder. For a long time that
folder was somehow a problem and I couldn't get started.

-- 
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928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
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Re: Bat! web site down

2005-08-24 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook

2005-08-24 Thread qe3ee
Hello wonderful tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com,


 A little wicked:
 A  small  question:  Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook or have
 the  citizens  of  the  Black  Sea  Republic  Moldova still not recogniced the
 impractical  absence  of addressbooks for business verion software without VAT
 fields?

 The onest truth:
 As  I'm  in  the  start  for  puting up my own business I have come across the
 bysantian  rule  that  I'm for the state not the othe way around therefore I'm
 looking for a more complete e-mail software.

 Im   considering  changing  to  a better and more complete software than the
 present The Bat! version 2.12 I'm using.

 OR is there a smart way to create new formfields in the addressbook?

 I've  come  to  like The Bat! quite alot even though it doesn't use a database
 for saving information - which in my opinion would be the best choice

 

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Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook

2005-08-24 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Qe3ee,

@24-Aug-2005, 16:19 +0200 (24-Aug 15:19 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Q  A  small  question:  Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
... snip

No, but there are a huge abundance of addressbook fields, any one of
which can be recycled as VAT. I use mine in many various ways. The
Home Fax number field is used as a Personalise signature to this
person. Other fields are similarly recycled throughout the record.

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Solution: The Bat crash at startup

2005-08-24 Thread Bodemann , Jörn

Thank you for your suggestions. It was easy to identifiy the account
which causes the problem. I deleted several files, like *.tbi, but
nothing helped.

I saw that some ppl use the 3.60.02 BETA version. That version works
again.

Jörn Bodemann

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Re: Oops!! Power Failure

2005-08-24 Thread Cory
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:57:52 -0500, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Unfortunately I was not at home until AFTER the 4
hours life of the UPS battery, so I could do nothing about the issue
after the fact.

Suggestions??

Make backups every hour: simple, scheduled script will do.

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Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook

2005-08-24 Thread qe3ee
Hello wonderful Marck D Pearlstone,

den 24 augusti 2005, 16:26:43, du skrev:

MDP Dear Qe3ee,

MDP @24-Aug-2005, 16:19 +0200 (24-Aug 15:19 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in
MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Q  A  small  question:  Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
MDP ... snip

MDP No, but there are a huge abundance of addressbook fields, any one of
MDP which can be recycled as VAT. I use mine in many various ways. The
MDP Home Fax number field is used as a Personalise signature to this
MDP person. Other fields are similarly recycled throughout the record.

 Nice  temporary  solution!  Will  try  to some laborations on the addressbook.
 Thanks! 

 However I here give you and the group this message I wrote to Contact at The
 Bat homepage (I hope they will read it):

-Begin Message to Contact-
Hello Contact!

I have written to tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com about the use for a VAT field in the
bat  addressbook.  I  got  a  suggestion how to solve this problem from Mark D.
Pearlstone: Use some other unused formfield!

I  feel that this is highly inadequate for the professional/business version of
the  bat,  as  that  makes it no more than a student toy than a real business
software.  

If  there  was  a  way  to create new forms in the addressbook it would be even
nicer  as  it  could  be  customizable for different purposes.

Another  drawback  I  have  encountered  is  the lack of database driven e-mail
archive.  The huge amount of data that need to accessed to form various part of
projects and similare communication intensive activities simply cannot be keept
in  a compressed filearchive without negative impact on the client performance,
I've got right now 3rd quarter of 2005 I have 189000 messages since 1 jan 2005! 
   

A  database  had  made the archiving and accessing of year old messages easier.
Right  now  every  year  has to be unpacked and searched through when i want to
access a single mail from a certain mailer/source.  
A  database  could  be  told to just open the mails in the bat up til a certain
date  as standard. The rest could be marked as archived, but still accessable
if needed! Much more complicated programaticaly but not totaly unachivable!

I have the urgent use for this improvement as I'm just in a startup process for
a  privat  company.  I'm not any more a private person as you may understand. I
have  kind  of grown toghether with the bat and would not like to change it for
some other client as i have come to like it to much.   

Kindly yours qe3ee

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Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook

2005-08-24 Thread George Mitchell
qe3ee wrote:

q  A  small  question:  Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5
q  Addressbook

snip

q  OR is there a smart way to create new formfields in the addressbook?

You could always use the address book memo field.  If you need to
access the value programmatically, the following QT might help.  I
*think* it uses a syntax available in v2, but I'm not 100% sure.  This
QT is a generalization of a technique I saw used by Robin Anson.  It
allows you to specify INI file like key/value pairs in the AB memo
field.  In your case, you might have a line like:

VAT=yes

It can occur anywhere in the field - I put them at the end.  The QT to
access it is as follows (call it ab_memo_item):

%Rem( Usage: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,item_name,default_value))%-
%-
%SetPattRegExp((?im)^%_1\s*=\s*(.*?)\s*$)%-
%RegExpBlindMatch(%ABToMemo)%-
%_ABI_Value=%SubPatt(1)%-
%If:%_ABI_Value%-
:%_ABI_Value%-
:%_2%-

To get the value, you could use something like:

%QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,)

or

%QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,no)

As written, the QT uses the AB entry for the To field of new messages
or replies.  You might have to change the ABToMemo to something else
to use it in another context.

I use this technique to customize my signature for certain
individuals.  My Friends AB group message templates contain the
line:

%QInclude(%QInclude(ab_memo_item,sig,default_sig))%-

I have a QT called default_sig that contains my normal signature.  For
any individual I want to use a different signature for, I include a
line in the memo field of that person's AB entry that names a specific
signature QT, such as:

sig=tagline_sig

I hope this makes sense.

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Re: Bat! web site down

2005-08-24 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mica,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:14:02 +0200GMT (24-8-2005, 14:14 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 Never lean forward to push an invisible object.
MM Is it leaning backward safe?

Yes, because in that case you can't see it anyway. ;-)

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