Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
jmtb- If all you need is TLS, then you should be OK. I'm using roughly the same vintage and I can connect to my gmail account using TLS. OTOH I seem to remember some TLS problems with some earlier versions, so this may or may not work out. My settings are: SMTP: secure to regular port (STARTTLS) : 587 Perform SMTP authentication: RFC 2554 Use settings of mail retrieval Use POP before SMTP authentication POP: secure to dedicated port (TLS) : 995 authentication : regular Other than that, try installing stunnel. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder
Hallo z5worg, On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:18:19 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 3:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z I installed v.2 on my laptop (Win98SE) a few days ago. I had a 1.6x Z before; but I didn't find an uninstall, so I simply deleted 1.6x; and Z installed v.2 It wasn't necessary to uninstall v1, you should have installed v2 on top of it. But next time you remove TB, do so via the software panel of the configuration screen. Z After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra Z yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account Z list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know Z how it got there. Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name. Is it listed outside your regular accounts? In that case exit TB, browse to your mail directory and check for any account.flx and account.flb files and move them to another location. Whatever you do, don't delete them (you might want to undo this action when the results are unsatisfactory) and don't remove the same files from your account directories. Nor should you touch any of the other account.* files. Just report back after you've done this, please. -- Groetjes, Roelof Wait a minute! Strike that! Reverse it. Thank you. The Bat! 3.61.02 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1QGSI8H08n.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair
Hallo z5worg, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z I do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1. There is a Z part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder Z Maintenance. What do I do with that file? Does it contain the damaged Z messages? How do I recover them? Create a new folder with TB Exit TB Copy the *.bin file to your new folder and rename it to messages.tbb (this means you'll have to delete the original messages.tbb and .tbi files and that's why you created a new=empty folder) Z Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the Z other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the Z other 3 damaged folders. I don't know why these differences exist, but you can try two things: exit TB delete the messages.tbi files for the problem folders (the messages.tbi file contains the index for the folder, when the file is missing, TB creates a new one) start TB and check whether everything is as it should be. If it isn't right now. Create a new folder. Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left Continue to do so till it's empty. Exit TB Check whether the messages.tbb file for the problem folder is empty. (The messages.tbb file for an empty folder is 4 kB, the messages.tbi should be 17 kB) If it's not, check whether you can salvage something with a text editor and delete them afterwards. If it's empty, delete both files anyway. Start TB and move the messages back from the new folder to their original folder (to keep your filters from messing up) Compress the new folder. Now proceed with your next problem folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof No one can think clearly with clenched fists. The Bat! 3.61.02 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp2uwxWY5TQN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Hallo Jerrold, On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 02:53:56 +GMT (5-9-2005, 4:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM I upgraded from my dial-up connection (worldnet.att.net) to DSL JM with the same ISP. Everything works fine -- except for TB. It JM won't connect. I'm using TB version 148e, which has been doing JM just fine for me, sorting and handling all incoming and outgoing JM corresondece flawlessly, along with my 50K archived message. Did until now, that is. 1.48e is rather an oldie. You should upgrade to 1.62, that's running under the same license that you've got now and it's still available for download at the Ritlabs site: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php JM I changed outgoing port settings from 25 to 465, incoming from JM 110 to 995, as instructed, fussed with all other of what seemed to JM be reasonable possibilities, with the best guesses of ATT tech JM support, which doesn't know TB. That support seems baffled that JM there is no SSL setting in this version of TB These days TB has got TLS, but I really don't know when that got implemented, my best guess is to try 1.62, that was the Christmas release for 2002 and is therefore about two years more recent than 1.48e (I'm not absolutely sure about that time, only thing I know for sure was that 1.53d was current on 4 Sepetember 2001) And that's quite some development time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Say it with flowers. Give her a Triffid The Bat! 3.61.02 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpygEcJQFkGa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail))
Hallo Jerrold, On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 02:53:56 +GMT (5-9-2005, 4:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM (Webmail is agonizing.) JM Many thanks. JM Jerry JM JM Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jerrold. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Death to all moderators..AAACK!!!...W$%x NO CARRIER pgptkMvacFKC6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I believed that the 3.60 improved the answers on mail HTML?
Hello WilWilWil, On Saturday, September 3, 2005, you wrote: W when I answer a mail which was with format HTML, the text of W origin quoted is in a dreadful table HTML with 2 cells. One on the W left containing the character quotation and with a wretched blue W back, and the column of right-hand side with the text of origin itself! I'm wondering about this one too, (MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), but I've not had a single comment. I can't see anything helpful in TB-beta either. Perhaps everyone else replies in plain text all the time? -- Nick TheBat!: v3.60.07 on Windows XP Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: character sets in MicroEd?
Hi Thomas! On Sunday, September 4, 2005, 9:53:45 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF It thought there was a macro to change the charset (and you could use TF it in conjunction with IF and OCHARSET), but I cannot find that macro TF in the help right now. Ah, good idea! That does indeed work, I put: %IF:%OCharset=gb2312:%Charset=us-ascii in my reply templates, and it works just fine (using 3.60.7). Thanks for the suggestion! - Paul -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Paul A. |NCBI / NIH Thiessen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello aam, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 06:04:02 +0200 GMT (05/09/2005, 11:04 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aas Are you sure a macro like %OCharset exists, Thomas? I can't see aas anything like that here in 2.12. It's in my help file, and it works for Paul. However, I am not sure it was already present in v2.12. -- Cheers, Thomas. Trees that grow in smoggy cities are needed to make carbon paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character sets in MicroEd?
Hello Paul, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 07:56:10 -0400 GMT (05/09/2005, 18:56 +0700 GMT), Paul A. Thiessen wrote: PAT in my reply templates, and it works just fine (using 3.60.7). Thanks for PAT the suggestion! Glad I could help. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Is there another word for synonym? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Hello Jerry, On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 02:53:56 + GMT (05/09/2005, 09:53 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jan I upgraded from my dial-up connection (worldnet.att.net) to DSL jan with the same ISP. Everything works fine -- except for TB. It jan won't connect. I read that you now connect using your DSL connection instead of dial-up. This is the way you connect to the internet per se. DSL = Digital Subscriber Line. jan I changed outgoing port settings from 25 to 465, incoming from jan 110 to 995, as instructed, This has to do with SSL, which is a secure protocol. It actually has nothing to do with whether you connect via dial-up or DSL. Change the ports back to 110 and 25. SSL = Secure Socket Layer. In the main menu, go to Options / Network Administration. Your setting shows Dial-Up, you need to switch it to LAN or manual connection. -- Cheers, Thomas. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder
Hello z5worg, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:22:57 -0400 GMT (05/09/2005, 12:22 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: zzc For my future information, how would I uninstall The Bat!? The normal way is via the Windows Add/Remove Programs function. I understand it didn't work in your case. So, in order to fix your problem, we would need to look into your registry key and into the folder structure on your harddisk. zzc What exactly am I looking for? zzc I search in the Registry for the Account name (that has the duplicate); zzc and it was only listed ONCE in [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\RIT\The zzc Bat!\Users Depot]. I see you are familiar with the registry. Yes, this is where I would have looked. zzc Before I install v.2, I deleted the entire zzc [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\RIT] Good. You didn't mention this before. zzc Would it help to uninstall and reinstall at this point? If yes, zzc what is the procedure that would involve the least amount of zzc work? At this point, I suggest to follow Roelof's advice and see what happens. -- Cheers, Thomas. Drink wet cement: Get Stoned. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Hello Greg, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:43:37 -0500 GMT (05/09/2005, 21:43 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: In the main menu, go to Options / Network Administration. Your setting shows Dial-Up, you need to switch it to LAN or manual connection. GS You're probably correct on this I hope so, because this was the solution for me when I switched from dial-up to broadband back in Taiwan. That was a cable connection, not DSL, but I would think it's the same issue here. GS as well as changing the 'connection' type to one of the 'TLS' GS options. That has to do with the email provider, not the internet connection. Many email providers (such as GMX) provide both plain as well as secure access. Since the plain access worked with his dial-up, it should work with broadband as well. If, in addition, his email provider also offers SSL, this has nothing to do with whether he connects via dial-up or broadband. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: A detective can only solve a case once he has been fired from his job. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Hello Greg, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:33:48 -0500 GMT (05/09/2005, 22:33 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS Well according to the original message it seems that the provider's GS support was asking about SSL. See quote below: GS ,- [ per GS mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GS | That support seems baffled that there is no SSL setting in this version GS | of TB (at least that I can find), which seems to be required in order for TB GS | to work with ATT DSL. GS `- Please don't use boxquoting. It messes up everything. However, I think the OP was confused about DSL and SSL. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: When foreigners are alone, they all prefer to speak English to each other. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I believed that the 3.60 improved the answers on mail HTML?
Hello WilWilWil everyone else, on 03-Sep-2005 at 11:16 you (WilWilWil) wrote: Hello, Since the 3.51, when I answer a mail which was with format HTML, the text of origin quoted is in a dreadful table HTML with 2 cells. One on the left containing the character quotation and with a wretched blue back, and the column of right-hand side with the text of origin itself! Difficult to make worse like mail of answer. My correspondents wonder what I have fun! I believed that the 3.60 improved the answers on mail HTML? You can answer with HTML to HTML messages, now don't get hasty! ;-) ...what we need next are HTML templates that define the style of quotes etc. These however are still unimplemented. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I tell you that I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmic primordial atomic globule. -- Gilbert Sullivan Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: PGP to GPG Migration
SOT = Slightly Off-Topic Is there any documentation for migrating from PGP to GPG? I need to use GPG now because I am dual-booting with Linux. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Sign on a repair shop door: WE CAN REPAIR ANYTHING. (PLEASE KNOCK HARD ON THE DOOR -- THE BELL DOESN'T WORK) pgpLkTfEnHesp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder
Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo z5worg, On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:18:19 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 3:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: But next time you remove TB, do so via the software panel of the configuration screen. You mean Add/Remove Program in Windows? Z After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra Z yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account Z list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know Z how it got there. Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name. Is it listed outside your regular accounts? In that case exit TB, browse to your mail directory and check for any account.flx and account.flb files and move them to another location. . Just report back after you've done this, please. It cured the problem. Thanks. -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair
Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z I do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1. There is a Z part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder Z Maintenance. What do I do with that file? Does it contain the damaged Z messages? How do I recover them? Create a new folder with TB Exit TB Copy the *.bin file to your new folder and rename it to messages.tbb (this means you'll have to delete the original messages.tbb and .tbi files and that's why you created a new=empty folder) I created a Temp folder; and follow the instructions above. When I re-open TB, the Temp folder shows 0 messages. Then I check the integrity of the Temp folder. The result is Messages Recovered:0, Damaged Parts (part0001.bin), Saved:1. However, the Temp folder still shows 0 messages. When I look in my hard drive, the new part001.bin is smaller than the previous part001.bin; and the messages.tbb and *.tbi in Temp folder indicate an empty folder. Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages can not be recovered? Z Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the Z other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the Z other 3 damaged folders. I don't know why these differences exist, but you can try two things: exit TB delete the messages.tbi files for the problem folders This doesn't work. If it isn't right now. Create a new folder. Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left . and move the messages back from the new folder to their original folder (to keep your filters from messing up) Compress the new folder. Now proceed with your next problem folder. This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message numbers. Separately, after I ran the Integrity check today, some row labels are missing on the Results section on the bottom. On the bottom Left On the bottom Right Duplicate found: 0 172 Messages purged: 0 3 Disk space saved 8447 When I ran the Integrity check the day before, I remembered that there were row labels for the numbers on the bottom Right. Why am I missing those row labels? And how can I get them back on the Results page again? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair
Hello z5worg, On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:58:30 -0400 GMT (06/09/2005, 07:58 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: zzc I created a Temp folder; and follow the instructions above. When I zzc re-open TB, the Temp folder shows 0 messages. Then I check the zzc integrity of the Temp folder. The result is Messages Recovered:0, zzc Damaged Parts (part0001.bin), Saved:1. zzc However, the Temp folder still shows 0 messages. When I look in my hard zzc drive, the new part001.bin is smaller than the previous part001.bin; and zzc the messages.tbb and *.tbi in Temp folder indicate an empty folder. I am not sure whether you did the following after creating the temp folder from within TB: Close TB Delete messages.tbb and messages.tbi Rename part0001.bin to messages.tbb and put it into that directory Open TB If this is what you did and you still get the error, the message file is really damaged. Somebody with a hex editor might be able to take a look. zzc Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages zzc can not be recovered? Not yet. Let's open that file with a screwdriver first and have a look inside. -- Cheers, Thomas. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.02 beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
That support seems baffled that there is no SSL setting in this version of TB (at least that I can find), which seems to be required in order for TB to work with ATT DSL. The fact that you do not have SSL may be the problem. Is the SSL the required connection type? It is the problem. Yes, it is a required connection type. You have obviously been a TB user for some time with 1.48e. It sounds like you have already looked in Account | Properties (Shft+Ctrl+P). I don't know if UI is still the same in v3, but under 'Transport' you should have a drop down list box for 'Connection'. If there is no 'SSL' option is there a 'TLS' option? Unfortunately, there is neither an SSL nor a TLS option there, not in TB 1.48e, anyway. So if you do not have either as a connection option, I would upgrade. Anyhow it is about time. Thanks for the try. While 1.48e has been doing everything I need and want it to till now, I don't at all mind upgrading -- assuming I get the upgrade to work with DSL connection, and assuming I can migrate all my sorting rules, folder structures, and 50K of archived messages, about 40% of which are business related and which I need. I understand that I have to move everything to midway version that will act as interface between what I now have and more recent versions. As I said, I don't really need any more functionality than I already had in TB, and down want to get into problematic upgrades. Anyone recommend a particularly stable and bug free version? Many thanks. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Mark, If all you need is TLS, then you should be OK. I'm using roughly the same vintage and I can connect to my gmail account using TLS. OTOH I seem to remember some TLS problems with some earlier versions, so this may or may not work out. My settings are: SMTP: secure to regular port (STARTTLS) : 587 Perform SMTP authentication: RFC 2554 Use settings of mail retrieval Use POP before SMTP authentication POP: secure to dedicated port (TLS) : 995 authentication : regular 1.48.e doesn't have an option under SMTP or POP either for SSL or TLS. Going to have to move closer up to the present. Other than that, try installing stunnel. Will probably try Stunnel before moving up. If I can get the old version to work via Stunnel, then that will probably indicate that a new version, incorporating TLS, will work.r -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Roelof, Thank you. The web-based email I'm using won't quote any of your message, so I'm pasting a bit. 1.48e is rather an oldie. You should upgrade to 1.62, that's running under the same license that you've got now and it's still available for download at the Ritlabs site: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php I'll experiment with Stunnel first, then give 1.62 a try. (*Something* has to work; can't take much more of this webmail.) -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
Thomas, Thank you. DSL = Digital Subscriber Line. Yes. jan I changed outgoing port settings from 25 to 465, incoming from jan 110 to 995, as instructed, This has to do with SSL, which is a secure protocol. It actually has nothing to do with whether you connect via dial-up or DSL. Change the ports back to 110 and 25. ATT -- worldnet.att.net -- requires these port setting for DSL. It also requires a secure connection through SSL. (I'm hoping, when I upgrade, that it will accept TLS SSL = Secure Socket Layer. Yes. In the main menu, go to Options / Network Administration. Your setting shows Dial-Up, you need to switch it to LAN or manual connection. Tried it. Didn't work. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
You're probably correct on this as well as changing the 'connection' type to one of the 'TLS' options. 1) Secure to dedicated port (TLS) 2) Secure to regular port (STARTTLS) Indeed, this might well work -- if 1.48e had a (TLS) or (STARTTLS) option. It doesn''t though. Ah, well. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
. . . If, in addition, his email provider also offers SSL, this has nothing to do with whether he connects via dial-up or broadband. Sadly, it does. ATT insists upon it a secure connection for broadband, whereas they do not for dial-up. It's an extra defense against spammers using their system, they say. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
However, I think the OP was confused about DSL and SSL. No, I wasn't. I wish the answer were that simple. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
However, I think the OP was confused about DSL and SSL. Possibly. They haven't replied since the original post, so your guess is as good as mine. Current circumstances prevent me from answering as frequently as I would like, or in a more timely fashion. -- Be well, Jerry Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder
Monday, September 05, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Z After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra Z yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account Z list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know Z how it got there. Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name. Is it listed outside your regular accounts? In that case exit TB, browse to your mail directory and check for any account.flx and account.flb files and move them to another location. . Just report back after you've done this, please. It cured the problem. Thanks. I just noticed that all my other Common folders are deleted from the Account List. Luckily, there are only two Common folders -- $Known$ (Inbox-Known) and Trash. So I added those two. However, TB puts all new folders at the bottom of the list. And I can't move $Known$ up to the 3rd position. So, I edited the AccOrder.cfg; and that seems to work. But why the normal Ctrl+Shift+UpArrow does not work in this case??? [It works for the common folder Trash.] My last problem is creating the sub-folders under $known$. Usually, the Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L would recover lost sub-folders. But when I put my cursor on the $Known$, and try to recover lost sub-folders, TB recovers ALL Accounts and their sub-folders -- i.e. I get a duplicate of everything. Is there a way to recover the sub-folders of $Known$ ONLY? If yes, how? -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair
Monday, September 05, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: If it isn't right now. Create a new folder. Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left . and move the messages back from the new folder to their original folder (to keep your filters from messing up) Compress the new folder. Now proceed with your next problem folder. This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message numbers. I forgot to mention that when I move messages from the problem folder to the new folder, TB asks me whether I want to move the parked messages; and I click on Yes. However, when I move the messages from the new folder back to the old folder, it didn't ask me that question about parked messages. And I found the Park markings are all gone in that folder. Is that normal? Or does it indicate some other problem(s)? [The integrity check shows no problem.] -- Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
