Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
I fired up ThunderBird that I hadn't used it days. In a few seconds it had all folders checked and updated. No problem. I guess a few exits and restarts. Cleaning the caches etc. just might make things better but... Phew! I was beginning to feel that I was the only one in step with these particular problems! -- Regards Clive Taylor Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 04:47 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: The only thing that keeps me waiting a bit longer is whether anybody finds out why on some machines, opening messages in seperate window takes several seconds. This has been experiecned by three people, the other hundreds of TBBETA members couldn't confirm it. Everyone who does a direct comparison of the graphics rendering speed in 3.0.1.33 vs. 3.62.14 will notice the difference - 3.62.14 is ALWAYS slower, thats the issue... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Wyszkowski's Second Law: Anything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: part0001.bin
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 04:33 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: If I had a hex editor, what would I be looking for in that file? ASK Take a look if there's still some messages inside. Trying to manually salvage some messages, OK. Exactly. XVI32 has these nice functions delete to cursor and delete from cursor so you can trim anything useful you find and save it to disk. Does anybody know whether Roelof's tip *should* have worked? If the .bin file is re-built to already contain enough information that makes it a .tbb file, yes. I've done this myself before, and it worked. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary Cooper. -- Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in Gone With The Wind. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting no help from support...
Hello Thomas! On Saturday, November 26, 2005, 9:39 PM, you wrote: Did you buy the box version that comes with an email address? I seem to remember something like that... LG Really? I didn't know that some boxed versions came with an LG e-mail address.. At which domain? Ritlabs? No, the dial-up login details come with email addresses at the ISP. So, you sign up for a dial-up account wiht the ISP, they automatically give you an email address (at least some do that over here). This is what I understand is meant by ISPs email address. It's what I understand, too. Comcast assigned one to me, and I was allowed to select 5 additional ones, when I signed up with them for Broadband. My first ISP (Premiernet) was a dial-up, and they supplied me with one e-mail address and with the POP3 and SMTP strings to put in the boxes of Account/Properties/Transport. This consisted of different words from the ones I needed to set up Comcast at Account/Properties/Transport. Further, at yet another ISP (which I used first for dial-up and then for broadband), the domain name didn't work; I had to use the address numbers. Another place a novice like me could get into trouble with set-up is in the Authentication boxes in Account/Properties/Transport/Authentication. Some ISPs are unforgiving about those. I suppose one could find the right way by trial-and-error if the ISP is no help--as Comcast was no help to me. They said they never heard of The Bat! and why didn't I just go with Outlook Express? Or read my mail on their website? grrr I have a vague memory of having to change a setting in Win XP Home to make all this work for dial-up with Premiernet, when I switched from Win95 to WinXP. But I might be confusing that with the switch from dial-up to broadband, with Comcast. It was all a long time ago, as Internet access goes. I give these details to show that it is not easy for a first-time Batter to get it right. Especially if one doesn't have the technical vocabulary to understand the Help file. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello Roman, Safe: does not cause loss of data and/or settings and will not force me to roll back. Should be a matter of course for release versions of any software. I'm currently testing 3.63.05, a real beta, and if I have problems with it I revert to 3.62.14. If that tells you something :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.05 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 3:38 AM, you wrote: The only thing that keeps me waiting a bit longer is whether anybody finds out why on some machines, opening messages in seperate window takes several seconds. This has been experiecned by three people, the other hundreds of TBBETA members couldn't confirm it. Everyone who does a direct comparison of the graphics rendering speed in 3.0.1.33 vs. 3.62.14 will notice the difference - 3.62.14 is ALWAYS slower, thats the issue... But, as I commented on TBBETA, it has not been slow enough to bother me. Some people have reported *much* longer closing times than I was getting. And last night, when I had The Bat! up for only a couple of minutes, with the focus on the Inbox message list (which was empty), checked mail, had no messages in the Dispatcher, and immediately closed the Connection Centre window and then closed TB! from a minimized window--the close happened in less than a second. The compression graph ran across my screen almost too fast to be visible. Of course, that was with beta 3.63.05. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB data folders and settings from a logical unit to another.
Luca: Now I see that not all my mail folders appear empty: TB correctly finds some of them on the new e: volume - where I copied all my mail directories - and in properties/general for all these folders I can read directory: default The folders which TB still searches in u: for, are those ones with a directory specified in properties/general/directory, where the old u: path still appear. Where does TB store these paths, if not in the Windows registry? I may have found the trick: TB stores non-default paths in some of the account.* files. I can see it with an ex editor. So, there is no way to move the whole lot of TB mail directories without manually modifying paths in folder/properties, once for each single folder which we specified a path for. === For those who need to move TB mail directories more than rarely, I guess that the best way to configure TB is never specify any path, neither in account/properties/files and directories, nor in folder/properties/general, always leaving default path alone. Then, we will be able to move the whole directory tree by entering a new path in options/preferences/general/mail directory, where all mail dirs and subdirs will be physically moved by TB itself. I'm not sure about what happens when TB finds an existent tree in the new location. Surely, it asks for skipping/overwriting, but I didn't verify if it deletes existent files and directories with different names. Besides, I see that it leaves behind, in the old location, any non-active directory and file, all those ones which don't have any mail folder assigned in the current setup. So, in case you had some of these unassigned files to move as well, you could (close TB,) manually copy the whole MAIL/ tree. Then, modify the mail path in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Working Directory. This should now be the only valuable occurence of path specification, if I'm not mistaken. In case I am, (Users Depot? What's that?) one could simply import/export the entire HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\, with a search and replace operation in between. === I'm a little disappointed to see that all this matter, hardly intuitive, is so poorly documented (or, documentation is so difficult to find). TB's help is quite laconic about all this, preferences/general and /system seem not to be documented at all, and the help button in those dialogs has no help page associated (3.62). TB is an extremely powerful program, I think that a complete and healty documentation is a primary feature for users to be able to benefit by all this power. Tnx. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 11:59 you (Mary Bull) wrote: Everyone who does a direct comparison of the graphics rendering speed in 3.0.1.33 vs. 3.62.14 will notice the difference - 3.62.14 is ALWAYS slower, thats the issue... But, as I commented on TBBETA, it has not been slow enough to bother me. Neither for me, but its nevertheless the source of the problem that is quite massive for others. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Superstring (Future Breeze Rmx) (5:04) by Cygnus X from the album 'Collected Works (CD 2)' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 5:14 AM, you wrote: Everyone who does a direct comparison of the graphics rendering speed in 3.0.1.33 vs. 3.62.14 will notice the difference - 3.62.14 is ALWAYS slower, thats the issue... But, as I commented on TBBETA, it has not been slow enough to bother me. Neither for me, but its nevertheless the source of the problem that is quite massive for others. Indeed. I fully agree. And one can only try it, to see how it will work on a specific system and set-up. As MAU commented in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , v. 3.62.14 is safe. I would add, safe in the sense that it does not cause loss of data or settings for those using POP3 accounts. At least, no such loss has been reported on the lists, so far. It would be simple for the OP, Roman, to roll back if this version is too slow for him, since he would have only to replace the .exe, right? He said he's now running v. 3.62.07, in his mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.14 safe to use?
Hello MAU everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 11:52 you (MAU) wrote: I'm currently testing 3.63.05, a real beta, and if I have problems with it I revert to 3.62.14. If that tells you something :) Same here - 3.62.14 is very stable reliable, just as it should be. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: System 16 (6:05) by Shakta from the 2001 album 'Out of sight' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
cpu 100%
Hi, My mail folders are rather large, and since a while, as soon as I start The Bat! I've got my cpu working at 100%. (which is, obviously, slowing down the whole computer) I'm using The Bat! Version 3.60.07 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon 2400+ 1,99 GHz 1,00 GB of RAM Do I need to archive mail or something to have the bat! running normal again, or is there a fault somewhere. Normally, I use to have my email client on oall the time i'm behind a pc, that isn't possible now... Thanks, -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Hello lex, I'm using The Bat! Version 3.60.07 That is quite an old *beta*. Why don't you first upgrade to the latest release 3.62.14? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.05 (Beta) Winamp Playing: Pat Metheny - Daulton Lee (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Hello lex everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 13:00 you (lex) wrote: Do I need to archive mail or something to have the bat! running normal again, or is there a fault somewhere. Normally, I use to have my email client on oall the time i'm behind a pc, that isn't possible now... Do you run the folder maintenance regularly? If not, I'd do that (make a backup first, then do a complete folder maintenance and check to compress the folders delete old messages). And update to the latest release version 3.62.14 as Miguel suggested. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Chung Kuo (5:31) by Vangelis from the 1979 album 'China' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting no help from support...
Hello Roman, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:42:54 -0500 GMT (27/11/2005, 13:42 +0700 GMT), Roman Katzer wrote: RK I meant the boxed retail versions of TB that had a sticker on them with an RK email address that was ready to use. I never knew there are boxed retail versions of TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. He who stands on toilet, is high on pot! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: part0001.bin
Hello Alexander, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:40:54 +0100 GMT (27/11/2005, 16:40 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Does anybody know whether Roelof's tip *should* have worked? ASK If the .bin file is re-built to already contain enough information that ASK makes it a .tbb file, yes. I've done this myself before, and it worked. So that means the .bin file is really corrupted. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. 10 Anzeichen, woran Sie bemerken, dass Ihre Lebensmittel nicht mehr geniessbar sind: 7. Der Schnittlauch auf dem Butterbrot blueht. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: part0001.bin
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 14:41 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Does anybody know whether Roelof's tip *should* have worked? ASK If the .bin file is re-built to already contain enough information that ASK makes it a .tbb file, yes. I've done this myself before, and it worked. So that means the .bin file is really corrupted. :-( IRC the .tbb (and .bin) file is more or less a Unix mailbox with additional headers or message separators for TB. This would be an interesting detail, I don't know it for sure. Anyone with a link to the .tbb file format? If that header is missing or corrupt, TB can't handle the file. Its contents may still be OK - thats why I suggest the approach with the hex editor. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) First Law of Revision: Information necessitiating a change of design will be conveyed to the designer after - and only after - the plans are complete. (Often called the 'Now They Tell Us' Law) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: part0001.bin
Hello Alexander, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:17:09 +0100 GMT (27/11/2005, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: So that means the .bin file is really corrupted. :-( ASK IRC the .tbb (and .bin) file is more or less a Unix mailbox with ASK additional headers or message separators for TB. This would be an ASK interesting detail, I don't know it for sure. I did look at the .bin file in the text editor. UNix mailboxes are in plaintext, this one isn't. ASK Anyone with a link to the .tbb file format? notepad.exe ASK If that header is missing or corrupt, TB can't handle the file. ASK Its contents may still be OK - thats why I suggest the approach ASK with the hex editor. Yes, and that's why I'll try it. -- Cheers, Thomas. I tested this program in the presence of a certified child labourer, and she went crazy over it. - Wanda Sloan in a software review for an icon-generating program. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: part0001.bin
Hello Thomas, Saturday, November 26, 2005, 8:33:45 PM, you wrote: IAW http://www.hhdsoftware.com/ I didn't know there were so many free hex editors out there. Thanks! PSPad also has a built in hex editor in addition to a really great syntax highlighting text editor. http://www.pspad.com -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Some people cause happiness wherever they go. Other cause happiness whenever they go. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: part0001.bin
Hello Leif, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:00:28 -0700 GMT (27/11/2005, 22:00 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: LG PSPad also has a built in hex editor in addition to a really great LG syntax highlighting text editor. LG http://www.pspad.com I've downloaded it and will give it a spin. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Rich! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 9:03 AM, you wrote: I too have run into the We only support Outlook Express tech support policy. In such a case I'd tell them to help me setup my Outlook Express then, once that works, began the work of transposing the info from OE to TB. Yes, good thinking. Obviously a newb would have to dig to find the correct corresponding dialog box for where the server info goes. Quite true. The organization of TB!'s GUI is not immediately transparent to a beginning user. P.S. I was uncomfortable with the tone in which the original poster of this thread was 'spoken' to by some list members. I thought it was uncalled for. I was uncomfortable, too. I wanted to offer Bob my help, but I didn't have time on those particular days. I was reading but not posting. A beloved pet came very near to death ten days ago. A blood transfusion in the animal hospital saved her life. Then there were the early days of her convalescence at home. She seems to be on the mend now. Anyway, that's why I didn't get involved in what looked as if it would be a time-consuming effort. Many times frustrated newbies come here to TBUDL exhibiting what looks like a bad attitude. I had a bad attitude myself when I first showed up here! I'm glad a few people stuck with the task of trying to straighten me out!! As to Bob's claim to be a computer engineer--does that necessarily equate to computer programmer? Maybe he built hardware boxes and someone else set up his e-mail applications for him. Then, in his second post, he said he was home on disability. I have some disabilities of reasoning and memory and technical vocabulary my own self! I can relate to his needs. But I don't expect to see him back here, given that the only advice he received from fellow members of TBUDL was to read the Help File or to go back to his ISP for help. Well, I can't rescue everyone! :( I was lucky to find a vet able to save my long-time pet companion. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Mary, I was lucky to find a vet able to save my long-time pet companion. I'm glad to hear that Mary. I know what it means to lose a long-time pet, I've always had dogs and I've been through that several times. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 18:14 you (rich gregory) wrote: a little patience would have been all that was necessary Come on, there was one post that was rude, the others were mostly helpful, you're sounding as if the poor guy was slapped with fish by everyone... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Streamline (11:23) by Jet Chamber (Pete Namlook Atom Heart) from the 1997 album 'Jet Chamber' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Rich! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 11:14 AM, you wrote: MB But I don't expect to see him back here ... Too bad he hit us up w/ that Q during our holidays. Neither was I as available, and unable to help. I do understand that he was less than accurate on several points but still, a little patience would have been all that was necessary. At times _I_ could have been that poster! Yes, me too. ... MB I was lucky to find a vet able to save my long-time pet MB companion. I am very happy for you and your pet. We do rescues as well and it can be draining. Best wishes. Thank you so very much. Indeed, my pet *was* a rescue, seven and a half years ago, following a massive hailstorm. And, I feel, that in a sense, part of what we do on TBUDL is rescue work, also. It's a great satisfaction when one is actually able to give help as well as receive it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 11:30 AM, you wrote: ... a little patience would have been all that was necessary ... Come on, there was one post that was rude, the others were mostly helpful, you're sounding as if the poor guy was slapped with fish by everyone... The thing is, most of you guys and gals are so far from beginnerhood that it's hard for you to know where to start helping someone as confused as Bob obviously was. I think it's mostly feelings of guilt about my own lack of response that keep me writing about this. Because I might have been able to break everything down into simple enough steps to help Bob be successful. I'm only 3 years away from complete newbie-hood. I'm not ashamed of my priorities, of my choice to give my time to my pet in her life-threatening crisis. But I still feel very bad that I think I knew how to explain getting Transport set up for The Bat! and couldn't make the time for it when it was needed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 27-Nov-2005 at 18:42 you (Mary Bull) wrote: Because I might have been able to break everything down into simple enough steps to help Bob be successful He wanted to use one email address with two programs... respect if you're able to break this down into simple enough steps to be successful. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Calm Box (17:20) by Jet Chamber (Pete Namlook Atom Heart) from the album 'Jet Chamber II' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up TB! for a new ISP [was Re: Getting no help from support...]
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 11:59 AM, you wrote: Because I might have been able to break everything down into simple enough steps to help Bob be successful He wanted to use one email address with two programs... respect if you're able to break this down into simple enough steps to be successful. ;-) LOL I see what you mean. But he didn't even know what to do with Transport, as near as I could read him. He did get told that he would have to have separate e-mail addresses for his wife and for himself. But he didn't seem to have enough understanding to know what to do with that information. That's all that I meant, that for a rank beginner, setting up Transport can be daunting, for all that it looks so simple. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Freezing up Bat/computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 26 Nov 2005, @ @ at 14:05:07 -0500, when rich gregory wrote: S Not perhaps a very direct answer/solution, but one (just one, might be S there are better ones) suggestion is at the moment, to try the version S 2.12.00 instead. I use it for years (both in Win98SE, XP and Linux[es], S being on sometimes for several days) and never had any of such or S similar problems. This version is really very stable and reliable. I am still on 2.12 as well but I have seen that issue occasionally (rarely) myself. The result is that messages get marked as READ on the server so TB no longer tries to D/L them then, after a while, the server can have quite a number of rouge messages left on it. I use (either ePrompter or) TB's own dispatcher to clean up the server. Hmm, never had such an experience. Well, then it's not solely the issue of version. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 452 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.3, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ4nZzrSpHvHEUtv8AQO0Jwf+Nbxhzauhp5ae563I4Me6elu47vnT1TyA TNNQi6zas4yP87gpwTzepigsQ35ToorLJ4FI+QtxLmjqdJuqRSdUfJsPJtLtDKdL 5JTEwhNeEzIB9o7vXvX1mio1qQVf8kl8z5GSgoCPLb9/6TvfmY79NPcKRgUllexN 9GXhVEojUYquFMD1GzjjZaCBJYaedobdxTR5nCHErDXYl243vMptdBaKexPkoie8 KADPTrIrLj8NdHCwzx2pnJqwHW3UZGGSPaXhnSz07TUQfLt+w0vf3xLTFJ7T2DKy hWZc6jhkRUSct7aJrR0OUwvJz+sruRr/pRWtMh4TavCyFiPcofBm4Q== =9uge -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: part0001.bin
Hello Thomas, Sunday, November 27, 2005, 8:43:17 AM, you wrote: I've downloaded it and will give it a spin. You'll like it. In some ways it's very similar to TB. There's a whole ton going on under the hood if you really want to get into it. You can tweak and twiddle until it's just perfect. You can write JScript and VBScript and it'll compile under PSPad. You can use these things to extend the functionality of PSPad. You can even write it to appear on the toolbar itself. There's lots of built in tools too like Lorem Ipsum generator, color picker, base converter, hash generators etc. The syntax highlighting for programming is pretty great. Pretty much any language still in use is supported. If it isn't you can write your own. You can even tie in compilers to be able to compile your code directly from PSPad. The only thing it doesn't do for me currently is code folding, but that's promised in one of the next few releases. And... Well, it's free! grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Stock news: Hoover stock bites the dust. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Hi lex, On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, at 04:00:35 [GMT-0800] (which was 23:00:35 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: My mail folders are rather large, and since a while, as soon as I start The Bat! I've got my cpu working at 100%. Check to see if you have a heap of temporary files left behind by Bat! This slows things down and consumes processor time. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Modifiers on Reply buttons
Hello all, I've seen that the last stable version of The Bat has the following release note: [*] Keeping Shift or Ctrl keys change behaviour of Reply to All toolbar button the same way as for Reply button (needs editing or deletion of TBUser.DEF, though) Does anyone know what it means? What Shift or Ctrl are supposed to change to the Reply button anyway? Best regards, Philippe. -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:14:57 +1100, John Phillips wrote Check to see if you have a heap of temporary files left behind by Bat! This slows things down and consumes processor time. Ok thanks, as well other posters. I downloaded the new version and tried again. I get all kind of strange stuff now. For exmaple, mails not getting downloaded (it gets stuck at 100% when downloading of the server). The mail that does come through is shown for example, withouht a from and subject etc, or half of the content is missing. About deleting temporary files: how do i find them? I did try to cure the folders, it said ok and it gave some error message. -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Modifiers on Reply buttons
Hello Philippe! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 2:07 PM, you wrote: I've seen that the last stable version of The Bat has the following release note: [*] Keeping Shift or Ctrl keys change behaviour of Reply to All toolbar button the same way as for Reply button (needs editing or deletion of TBUser.DEF, though) Does anyone know what it means? What Shift or Ctrl are supposed to change to the Reply button anyway? It means that if you highlight a portion of the body text and hold down the shift key, then press the Reply button, only the highlighted (selected) portion of the message you're replying to will be quoted in your Edit Mail Message window. The change is that now the Reply to All button will also work the same way as the Reply button. Highlight a portion of text in a message. Hold down the shift key. Click the Reply to All button. Your reply to all will quote only the selected (highlighted) text in your Edit Mail Message window. Before this release version, Reply to All would not work that way. It ignored your highlighted text and quoted the whole message body in the the Edit Mail Message window. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Hello lex! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 2:12 PM, you wrote: Ok thanks, as well other posters. I downloaded the new version and tried again. I get all kind of strange stuff now. For exmaple, mails not getting downloaded (it gets stuck at 100% when downloading of the server). The mail that does come through is shown for example, withouht a from and subject etc, or half of the content is missing. Are you using IMAP or POP3? These problems sound like some things that some users see with IMAP. I haven't seen them using POP3. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Hello lex! On Sunday, November 27, 2005, 2:12 PM, you wrote: I did try to cure the folders, it said ok and it gave some error message. Did you compress them? I have The Bat! set to compress all my folders on exit. It makes it faster running. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Sunday, November 27, 2005, lex wrote: About deleting temporary files: how do i find them? Start, then run, type %temp% (without the qoutes), sometimes there's a %tmp% too -- normally it's the same folder. Never wrong to try both. The files should be called bat*.tmp or something like that -- Urban I believe you should live each day as if it is your last, which is why I don't have any clean laundry because, come on, who wants to wash clothes on the last day of thier life Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:21:34 -0600, Mary Bull wrote Are you using IMAP or POP3? These problems sound like some things that some users see with IMAP. I haven't seen them using POP3. pop3... -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:30:33 +0100, Urban wrote Start, then run, type %temp% The files should be called bat*.tmp or something like that 869 items, is that a lot? anyway, deleted them... Now off testing again. -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 100%
Sunday, November 27, 2005, lex wrote: 869 items, is that a lot? I'd say that 869 bat items is quite a lot, yes. IIRC, there were some solutions to clearing the %TEMP% automatically in an earlier discussion on TBUDL... (searching)... Yes, here it is; the subject is TB! attachment display settings? Just search for it in the TBUDL Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ -- Urban Cyanide is so poisonous that one drop of it on a dogs tongue will kill the strongest man. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with replying
Lately I've problems with replying to posts like the one below. There is no quoted text. Same problem with messages that contain something similar to: --- XXX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a forwarded message From: forex5x [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 26, 2005, 6:55:14 PM Subject: [ForexSystemBuilders] MT3 versus MT4 - and the API ===8==Original message text=== At the time work was started on this and I believe still the API for MT4 is not yet available and InterbankFX is going to keep the server for MT3 running as long as there are clients that want to use it. As things become available we can upgrade or move to the next step. Hopefully, the lessons we learn along the way will make the process easier and easier. Also, we want it to be more and more dependable as it develops so that we can pretty much let it go without watching it. We can use this forum to keep each other informed. I had several people request to work on the API so there will be more people helping out than was listed in the first emails. Glad to see some people working on this, Steve AKA Forex5x From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:06 AM To: ubu_77 Subject: Re: [ForexSystemBuilders] Re: Has anyone gotten the data feed to come in on the Ami/MT API? Hello ubu_77, Saturday, November 26, 2005, 3:24:50 PM, you wrote: U I was a little surprised to see that the plug-in was for MT3. That's because there is no API for MT4. According to MetaQuotes there never will be one because a/the API gives security issues. -- Best regards, Tony Friendship is what binds the world together in peace, may we all become friends. SPONSORED LINKS Business finance uk Business finance course Business finance online course Business finance class Small business finance Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group ForexSystemBuilders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ===8===End of original message text=== -- Best regards, Tonymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
