Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Chris, I was trying to switch the behavior of Shift+F2 (Queue in Outbox) and Ctrl+Enter (Send Now). Using the Customizer, I found the correct entries. However, when I tried to assign Ctrl+Enter to Queue in Outbox, I found that pressing ENTER was the same as clicking the Assign button. Therefore, I could not add the shortcut. Is there some trick to do this, or is this a bug? Yes, Enter and Space are tricky shortcuts to assign. Do this: 1.- Assign any other shortcut you can easily identify, let's say for example Ctrl+F10 or something even more 'unique'. 2.- Close TB 3.- In your MAIL directory look for a file called 'tbuser.def' and open it with a text editor (Notepad will do). 4.- Search for the shortcut you have assigned, Ctrl+F10 in this example. You can search for it including the quote marks if you wish. 5.- You should get to a line that says: shortcut Ctrl+F10 6.- Make sure there are not any more occurrences of this line. If there are, I suggest you try with a more 'unique' shortcut. 7.- Replace Ctrl+F10 with Ctrl+Enter and save the modified 'tbuser.def' 8.- Re-start TB. Your shortcut should now work (and even show in the Customise window). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello all, First of all, I'd like to thank the many of you who have already supported the wish list item I logged yesterday at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Now, if you would really like it to be implemented, let's campaign about it. Tell your friends, wives husbands (one at a time ;), your cousins, nephews, your neighbours and their mother's in law, the barman in the pub around the corner, your boss,... ;-) One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Now, if you would really like it to be implemented, let's campaign about it. Frankly, rather than implement yet another feature that won't work/generate more bugs/breaks an existing feature, I'd rather the development team concentrates on getting the basics of the programme working properly. -- Regards Clive Taylor Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Now, if you would really like it to be implemented, let's campaign about it. Frankly, rather than implement yet another feature that won't work/generate more bugs/breaks an existing feature, I'd rather the development team concentrates on getting the basics of the programme working properly. Absolutely! We are still waiting for things that used to work and now are broken to be re-fixed. And at least one of those has hiughest priority allocated but no developer! Pah... Please NO more features - get what's there working right - I can't promote TB the way I used to, to others, the way it is at the moment. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello Clive, Frankly, rather than implement yet another feature that won't work/generate more bugs/breaks an existing feature, I'd rather the development team concentrates on getting the basics of the programme working properly. Have you read my proposal? It starts by saying: ,- [ ] | As an alternative to the new option introduced in v3.63.09 (Beta) to | disallow copying and moving messages to Outbox, I would like to propose | what I consider a much more elegant and intuitive solution: the | implementation of a _real_ DRAFT folder. `- So, it is an _alternative_ to something they are already introducing and which is not at all intuitive or elegant. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello MAU, So, it is an alternative to something they are already introducing and which is not at all intuitive or elegant. I forgot to add... This is the new feature as announced in TBBeta by Maxim Masiutin when announcing the last beta: ,- [ ] | We've implemented Outbox Protection Feature. | | It is currently OFF by default. If you add Registry DWORD Value | CopyToOutboxProhibited=1 to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!, | The Bat! will prohibit copying messages to Outbox from other folders. | You will be only able to foward, redirect, etc . messages, which will | lead to creation of new messages in Outbox, but you will not be able to | copy (or move) messages to Outbox. | | When this option is ON, and you click Copy to folder menu item, the | Outbox folder is not shown in the list. Also, if you try to use | Drag-And-Drop to copy messages to Outbox, the cursor gets prohibited | shape. | | Please let us know whether it should be ON by default. | | We have some reports from corporate users that being able to drag and | drop messages to outbox folder and have them sent is a potentially very | dangerous feature for corporate users. `- -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
So, it is an _alternative_ to something they are already introducing and which is not at all intuitive or elegant. But still a new feature. -- Regards Clive Taylor Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello MAU! On Monday, December 12, 2005, 5:30 AM, you wrote: First of all, I'd like to thank the many of you who have already supported the wish list item I logged yesterday at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Many of the most knowledgeable among us have added support notes to this wish. I'm monitoring it and get notified by e-mail of each new note that is added. Now, if you would really like it to be implemented, let's campaign about it. Tell your friends, wives husbands (one at a time ;), your cousins, nephews, your neighbours and their mother's in law, the barman in the pub around the corner, your boss,... ;-) And your cats, if they help you compose and manage mail, as mine do. :) One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) Done. I made a Quick Template for this. I'm using it on TBOT too, even though it's Off Topic there, that list being filled with so many MAC users who have misguidedly left The Bat! :( -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello Clive! On Monday, December 12, 2005, 7:29 AM, you wrote: So, it is an _alternative_ to something they are already introducing and which is not at all intuitive or elegant. But still a new feature. IMHO, you'll never stop the introduction of new features. It's a fixed part of the RitLabs business plan. And their right to proceed how it seems best to them. Therefore, let's at least try to head off inelegant and unwieldy implementations of these new features at the pass! (To use a Wild West metaphor.) Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello Mary, Monday, December 12, 2005, 6:02:31 AM, you wrote: I'm using it on TBOT too, even though it's Off Topic there, that list being filled with so many MAC users who have misguidedly left The Bat! :( My how things have changed. Something is off topic in the TBOT list. ;-) -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello Terry! On Monday, December 12, 2005, 8:53 AM, you wrote: I'm using it on TBOT too, even though it's Off Topic there, that list being filled with so many MAC users who have misguidedly left The Bat! :( My how things have changed. Something is off topic in the TBOT list. ;-) On-Topic in TB! lists = Off-Topic in TBOT list technically speaking ;) Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
MAU @ 12/12/2005 4:46:52 AM Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Enter and Space are tricky shortcuts to assign. Do this: SNIP I thought something like that may need to be done. Off to file a bug report. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Save the whales. Collect the whole set. pgpnd4Fwsa4vA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello rich, Looks like this does not apply to ver 2.12! No, it does not. Sorry :( -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello Mary, One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) Done. Thanks :) I'm using it on TBOT too, even though it's Off Topic there,... I thought nothing was OT there. After all, it is about TB and, what does the TB in TBOT stand for? ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
Hello MAU! On Monday, December 12, 2005, 11:21 AM, you wrote: One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) Done. Thanks :) My pleasure. I'm using it on TBOT too, even though it's Off Topic there,... I thought nothing was OT there. After all, it is about TB and, what does the TB in TBOT stand for? ;-) Oh, well, technically you're right, of course. I just expressed it that way to spark a little discussion over on TBOT, since I was planning to--and did--CC it there. But YahooGroups hasn't seen fit to scoot the CC through the pipeline to its destination yet. At least, hasn't shown in *my* Message Dispatcher. :( -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
On Monday, December 12, 2005, 5:30:20 AM, MAU wrote: One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 draft Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
On Monday, December 12, 2005, 5:30:20 AM, MAU wrote: One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) sorry, first one got away before got the quick template right -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Please supportthe wish for a 'DRAFT' folder at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :manx-flag: Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
On Monday, December 12, 2005, 5:30:20 AM, MAU wrote: One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) Sorry, first try got away before I got the quick template right. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Please supportthe wish for a 'DRAFT' folder at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 :manx-flag: Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
On Monday, December 12, 2005, 5:30:20 AM, MAU wrote: One easy way is with your signature, see mine below :) Sorry, first try got away before I got the quick template right. Unfortunately, template won't work for those sending new The Bat mail from a Common Folder. Sigh... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's campaign for the implementation of a DRAFT folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 12 Dec 2005, @ @ at 08:09:23 -0600, when Mary Bull wrote: IMHO, you'll never stop the introduction of new features. Has the feature for self-destruction already been introduced in TB? (: It's a fixed part of the RitLabs business plan. And their right to proceed how it seems best to them. Of course it's their right and their property. I'm your father, I made you I'll destroy you! g Genetical (although perhaps not necessarily intellectual) property. (-: Therefore, let's at least try to head off inelegant and unwieldy implementations of these new features at the pass! (To use a Wild West metaphor.) Old good times. g Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Here I go, just to fling the cat out and to buy some sour cabbage. (: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 467 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ52YMLSpHvHEUtv8AQN/cgf/WoPS+snfXjOwMWVV5+aBFFBQR+0IDbTY 9AFxmakjhb5XbzuWvsh+5R7jYqN61+8nHi/C0doEM6cF5Hpzi5i5IMnYMqOWpa7d BCltih+lV6Zrx3Xh7Dqtxk69YExth7GSmVjnSdCwZV80grYOFyBkENlZOvgtX/n9 oW2b4vjyUnze2YOldQzDQ1t2kwmNyFbN97ygWJv2F1tNk/C+FO3nUBAc4QTnk2xc 9YABZBRvAAWszxZrqUQFAoOMq/yaQvKLoka1SmosRaKrvJtI9FCXtU+3pvq76bXj AbRMBz8QvIwmw6q/mNK6Ea5REx4/zkM3NWb7sSUmERIWFYHY97z4rQ== =21HU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Getting no help from support...
Hello Roman, Sunday, November 27, 2005, 1:42:54 AM, you wrote: On Saturday, November 26, 2005, 22:39:32, Thomas Fernandez wrote: LG Really? I didn't know that some boxed versions came with an e-mail LG address.. At which domain? Ritlabs? No, the dial-up login details come with email addresses at the ISP. So, you sign up for a dial-up account wiht the ISP, they automatically give you an email address (at least some do that over here). This is what I understand is meant by ISPs email address. I meant the boxed retail versions of TB that had a sticker on them with an email address that was ready to use. Some [EMAIL PROTECTED] which you could see without unpacking the box. If Bob (the OP) had such a retail version of TB it's understandable he shouldn't have to put in his ISP's data. Being a computer engineer (sic) though he should have figured that out. Regards, Roman Here we go again with having to explain computer engineer...Why do I even bother.Computer engineer was a combination of HW engineering and SW engineeringWith a minor in EE. Electrical engineering does not help when dealing with IT matterand all this ISP POP SMTP etc is ITI entered a course to get my MCSE Microsoft certified systems engineer...BUT bill Gates is a crookI joined 1 month before the class started...it was for NT 4.0 it cost 10K I had to take out a Loan...they said (marketing people,,,SCUM in my book) that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and with my BS in Computer Engineering I would have no problems getting a HIGH paying JOB..which I already HAD but wanted to know the ins and outs of networking etc.6 months into the course the DEAN came in and said we have good news and bad news...the bad new is that MS has cancelled this program (with 3 months to go) and at the end you have 1 year to take 14 test to be certified as a MCSE in NT 4.0 but that after 1.5 years NT 4.0 will go away and 2000 will be the new OS...I said..excuse me but 7 months ago YOU KNEW this.His response NO we didn't...well Microsoft did because you do not develop an OS in 7 months, you took MY 10K (STOLE) which is true taking money under false pretenses is stealing..He got red in the face and tried to defend himself but knew he was bagged.I said I want my MONEY backOh we can't do that but the good new is we are offering you the 2000 course (another 9 months for 1/2 price.OH what a DEALon another 5k and 9 more months of my life) I called him a few choice words as well as a crook and walked out of the room...I finished the course but was unable to pass 14 test at 100 dollars a test in 1 yearso No MCSEI hired a lawyer...who went after the school.they came back with.Robert WHO? we lost his records and have no way of getting them back.I could have called all my teachers as witnesses as well as class mates...but landed a SQA (software quality assurance job for a startup making close to 6 figures plus it was a pre IPO and I had major stock option that if they went public and did well I would be rich right now...) unfortunately George W. was then elected and burned through the surplus 1000's of companies in MA went under of laid people off...mine went under...THANKS to a greedy DICTATOR or should I say convicted drunk driver, Coke User, Liar, Vietnam defector (oh ya the nation guard that he never attended) did I say LiarHe is still LyingNever go another engineering job after that. So the BUSH dynasty ruined my life (laid off 2 times under Bush SR. and 3 times under JRis there a theme here, had plenty of job offers under Clinton), bill gates took my 10K, Now I have 3 diseases that affect my sort and long term memory so Social security payes for my to sit home and surf the web. Don't know if I will ever work again or Die before ever getting off of disability.can't work now..too sick, Plus my brain in not functioning at full capacity. SO next time you question some ones credentials know the facts they could be underlying issues that affect ones ability to understand what once came naturally... -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Chris, Sunday, December 11, 2005, 2:49:05 PM, you wrote: I was trying to switch the behavior of Shift+F2 (Queue in Outbox) and Ctrl+Enter (Send Now). Using the Customizer, I found the correct entries. However, when I tried to assign Ctrl+Enter to Queue in Outbox, I found that pressing ENTER was the same as clicking the Assign button. Therefore, I could not add the shortcut. Is there some trick to do this, or is this a bug? I haven't used Bat for some time (used Thunderbird) I am back again and learning. I tried to assign shortcut keys but cannot find where (using BAT 3.62.14). I found the the 'System Hotkeys under Option | Preferences. According to the Help file a Shortcut Editor can be located at View | Edit Shortcut, but I cannot see anything close to this under View. Would appreciate any suggestions. Actually I want to assign a keyboard shortcut to Folder | All Messages Read something as Ctl+Shift+R or Ctl+Shift+M -- Best regards, Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Peter, I tried to assign shortcut keys but cannot find where (using BAT 3.62.14). View/Toolbars/customise. It is not too intuitive at first. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Getting no help from support...
13 December 2005 - 07:35 Hello Robert, Monday, December 12, 2005, 11:57:33 PM, you wrote: RF Here we go again with having to explain computer engineer...Why do RF I even bother Next time, please don't. -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
