Re: TB 3.80.03 and MS Exchange
On Fri, 12 May 2006 at 09:18:00 +0200, Alexander wrote: This means I have to set up Outlook to use a local PST file for everything, including email. This needs clarification. If your client(s) is/are using Outlook with Exchange server, your mails are on the Exchange server (if you look in Outlook, it will be called Post Box - Robin Anson or something). You can set up additional Personal Storage file(s) and configure Outlook that new message will be put there. But AFAIK, the mails are still on the Exchange server as well. No, they disappear from the Exchange server once they are retrieved by my Outlook client app. The setting I adjust says Deliver new e-mail to the following location: and I have it set to a local PST file. If I use Outlook Web Access, I can see mails on the Exchange server. When an email is sent to this work address, I can see it on the server through OWA. However, once my local Outlook connects to the server, it disappears from OWA, and appears in Outlook. Then once the TB Exchange account connects, the email disappears from Outlook and appears in TB. There are no copies left on the Exchange server, or in the Outlook local PST file. If you have a setup like this, you'll have at least two roots in the left hand explorer-like bar in Outlook: Post box - Robin Anson and Personal Storage. Yes. If you're downloading mails to TB, you're not pulling them from the PST (no way). I must be, because they no longer appear in the Exchange view through OWA. Furthermore, I can retrieve mail into this account without even being online. You're downloading the mails from the Exchange server via MAPI to TB. The PST file is already a local copy, just like your TB folders if you download mails from the server (via MAPI or POP3). Yes, it is a local copy, but it also disappears from the server when I Outlook downloads it, just like the way I have POP configured. What Leif is referring to is the way Outlook connects to the Exchange server. It may use RPC-over-HTTPS, lets call it MAPI in a HTTPS tunnel, a special method normally used for remote connections to the server. There's no way TB can do that. Perhaps my copy of Outlook is doing that too. Certainly I was not successful in making a connecting to the Exchange server from outside the office when I set up Outlook to leave mail on the server. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.80.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.80.03 and MS Exchange
On Fri, 12 May 2006 at 08:39:24 -0500, Dwight wrote: Now, about 7 hours later, I decided it was time to get rid of that message which has been sitting in my oubox. I clicked to send. It got a created time of now, when the message was sent, not when the message was posted for sending into the outbox. I don't know if that is the expected behavior but doesn't seem right to me. Good, at least we are both seeing the same behaviour. So, that is the silver lining. It's easy enough to get mail out, but only if aware of the problem. It sure should be fixed. Is there a bug report I can make a note in? I haven't created one. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.80.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Post-release version 3.80.06 is available
Hello Marek, On Fri, 12 May 2006 19:12:50 +0200 GMT (13/05/2006, 00:12 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Can you post the changelog here? MM do not know exactly, readme was not updated. I will not blindly download a changed version. Especially since it was not tested on TBBETA, nobody knows that was changed. MM AFAIK mostly cosmetics related to translations, customiser, MM MailChat, Smartbat, Folder properties dialog... You can check MM Bugtraq. I wouldn't say this qualifies as a changelog, but thanks for your effort. MM BTW keyboard schortcuts are localised now. -- Cheers, Thomas. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.80.03 and MS Exchange
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 12 May 2006 18:15:02 +0200 GMT (12/05/2006, 23:15 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I wish I could see when a message was actually sent (using POP accounts). ASK That would be the datestamp on the very first (lowest) RECEIVED: ASK header, I assume. ASK From your message which I'm responding to right now: ASK Received: from unknown (EHLO [10.7.253.137]) [202.28.9.82] ASK by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 12 May 2006 16:59:10 +0200 I can assure you that I do not see any Received headers in my Sent folder. And that's my point: I need to see in my Sent folder when the message was sent. I cannot BCC all messages to myself and then go through the Received headers. -- Cheers, Thomas. The difference between a king and a president is that a king is the son of his father but a president is not. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: hullo moderators
hi, Saturday, May 6, 2006, 10:43:34 PM, you wrote: TF Check for update. Nice one! Ha ha! That was slipped in without letting anyone know... Nice touch! :) unfinished/non-marketable. so psst please, ok? :) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Post-release version 3.80.06 is available
MM AFAIK mostly cosmetics related to translations, customiser, MM MailChat, Smartbat, Folder properties dialog... You can check MM Bugtraq. MM BTW keyboard schortcuts are localised now. Any idea whether the broken-ness of forwarding as mentioned in the SUBJECT: Forwarding problem with 3.80.03 thread, has been fixed in this new version? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.71.03 with POPFile 0.22.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Installing additional HDD
Hello TBUDL, The subject sounds OT, but it isn't. Read first. In the office, I have one local HDD with two partitions, C and D. TB's program files reside on C, mailbase on D. What I intend to do is to add another physical HDD with another two partitions. If I understand Windows correctly, C will then be the first partition on HDD0, D will be the first partition on HDD1, E is the second on HDD0 and F is the second on HDD1. This is Windows default and I cannot change anything about it - if this is incorrect, please let me know! So, without having moved anything, my mailbase is suddenly on drive E (second partition on the first HD) and not on D anymore. TB will not find the mailbase. My goal is to move the mailbase to the new drive D (first partition on the new HD). How to do? The internal backup doesn't do what I want (see other thread), and my manual backup requires the same drives when restoring. Ideas are welcome. -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing additional HDD
Sunday, May 14, 2006, 12:13:23 AM, Thomas wrote: TF My goal is to move the mailbase to the new drive D (first partition on TF the new HD). How to do? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but after installing the new drive and before starting up TB!, why don't you physically move all the message base files from one drive to the other being careful to maintain the same directory structure? Does that seem like it would work? -- Sam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing additional HDD
Hello Sam, On Sun, 14 May 2006 00:23:28 -0400 GMT (14/05/2006, 11:23 +0700 GMT), Sam Brown wrote: SB Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but after installing the new drive and SB before starting up TB!, why don't you physically move all the SB message base files from one drive to the other being careful to SB maintain the same directory structure? You mean since the registry points tothe old) D drive for the messagebase, just move the directory structure to the new D drive? Hm, sounds like it could work! -- Cheers, Thomas. Wenn morgens frueh der Wecker rasselt, ist der schoenste Tag vermasselt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
