Re: TB! still has negative image
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 at 15:40:39 +1100, Tom wrote: Sorry, I am trying to follow this thread but still have some problems. Is the culprit the field for X-Mailer? What is the connection to User-Agent? Do I have to use one or the other or both? I followed the instructions and added the field for user-agent and now my header (on one account) does show as agent whatever but the x-mailer is still shown as the Bat. I thought the bad spam programs were looking for this as a criteria? Do I have to delete the field for X-Mailer or replace it with something else? Sorry, this is probably very basic for everyone but me :( User-Agent and X-Mailer are both header fields that can identify the email client you are using. Unfortunately you cannot change X-Mailer from within TB!. However, you can disable it by turning off the tick box at: Options - Preferences - General - Use X-Mailer header in messages You don't need to set User-Agent for this. However, if you still want to identify you email client, you can do so using the User-Agent field. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Dear Tom, @18-Dec-2006, 15:40 +1100 (18-Dec 04:40 here) Tom [TL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Robin: ... snip TL were looking for this as a criteria? Do I have to delete the field TL for X-Mailer or replace it with something else? There is a step missing in the instructions given so far. In the Preferences...General window, there is the option Use X-Mailer header in messages. Turn it off when you have implemented the User-agent header as instructed. That will sort it out. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.86.11 beta on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpVrdtLS8fN1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
having different accounts in different drives?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Fledermäuse, is it possible to have different mail accounts in different locations? Like Account ABC on the C: harddisk, and Account 123 on a USB-Stick? - -- regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: If we are going to teach 'creation science' as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction. -Judith Hayes Using The Bat! v3.86.11 beta Opera v9.10.8643 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject PGP key request -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFFhuuCoXyU9LPZSMERAgr0AJ4zbb9TEJcyRBHj8Y59VcXxyFlw9wCfSHwy Q5rrQDRXhu5zwzqTUOWfMjo= =PKD8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hi On Saturday 16 December 2006 at 11:22:10 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jernej Simoncic wrote: I never have and never will mask my header. If somebody blocks my message because of this, that's his problem, not mine. Depending, I suggest, on how important it is *to you* that you successfully get a message to the person/organisation concerned? -- Best regards, MFPA Beware the deadly donkey falling slowly from the sky Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hi On Saturday 16 December 2006 at 11:22:10 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jernej Simoncic wrote: I never have and never will mask my header. If somebody blocks my message because of this, that's his problem, not mine. Depending, I suggest, on how important it is *to you* that you successfully get a message to the person/organisation concerned? -- Best regards, MFPA Beware the deadly donkey falling slowly from the sky Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: having different accounts in different drives?
Hi On Monday 18 December 2006 at 7:26:45 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jurgen Haug wrote: is it possible to have different mail accounts in different locations? Like Account ABC on the C: harddisk, and Account 123 on a USB-Stick? Never done it on different drives, just different paths on same drive. Set the locations at Account|Properties|Files directories -- Best regards, MFPA War is a matter of vital importance to the State. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Monday, December 18, 2006, 8:33:44 PM, you wrote: You don't need to set User-Agent for this. However, if you still want to identify you email client, you can do so using the User-Agent field. Thanks, much clearer now. Last question - before I change my templates accordingly, is there a specific reason why a User-Agent should still be set up that way. In other words, if I just switch off the X-Mailer and don't create a User-Agent (ie have nothing in there to show my email program), may this have other consequences I should consider? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hallo Tom, On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:02:55 +1100GMT (18-12-2006, 23:02 , where I live), you wrote: You don't need to set User-Agent for this. However, if you still want to identify you email client, you can do so using the User-Agent field. T Thanks, much clearer now. Last question - before I change my templates T accordingly, is there a specific reason why a User-Agent should still T be set up that way. In other words, if I just switch off the X-Mailer T and don't create a User-Agent (ie have nothing in there to show my T email program), may this have other consequences I should consider? There are some anti-spam tools that give you spam-points for omitting a Mailer/X-Mailer/User-Agent header. -- Groetjes, Roelof Facts are stubborn things. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.11 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsNDwDSOZe6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 10:07:12 AM, you wrote: There are some anti-spam tools that give you spam-points for omitting a Mailer/X-Mailer/User-Agent header. hmm, sounds like damned if you do and damned if you don't :( Well, I have now switched off the X-Mailer and set up the User-agent with your Mijn kleine vleermuis - that has a nice ring to it :) -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hallo Tom, On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:22:50 +1100GMT (19-12-2006, 0:22 , where I live), you wrote: There are some anti-spam tools that give you spam-points for omitting a Mailer/X-Mailer/User-Agent header. T hmm, sounds like damned if you do and damned if you don't :( Unfortunately you can't disable the X-Mailer header with a macro, otherwise you could disable it with AB templates. T Well, I have now switched off the X-Mailer and set up the User-agent T with your Mijn kleine vleermuis - that has a nice ring to it :) That's My little bat in Dutch. -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.11 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgprBdjddCrby.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Roelof Otten @ 2006-12-18 5:07:12 PM TB! still has negative image mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are some anti-spam tools that give you spam-points for omitting a Mailer/X-Mailer/User-Agent header. I was looking through the RFCs (documents describing various Internet standards) today. User-Agent is a HTTP header. X-Mailer is the only e-mail header that routinely contains that information. An interesting tidbit. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Definite maybe pgpsmbmG5tuKe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
