Re: Filtering Read Messages
Hi On Friday 27 April 2007 at 4:40:40 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Rudnick wrote: I want to be able to read and process the messages that appear in my Inbox. Once I'm done with the message, I usually file it for future reference. My goal in filtering *read* messages is to automate the filing process. You could always use incoming filters to do the filing but set up a virtual folder to view all unread messages in any folder. That way, already filed and disappears from the virtual folder when you mark it as read. -- Best regards, MFPA Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Read Messages
Hi, I'm new to this group but not to TheBat! I appreciate the mail filtering suggestions and will add my system to the mix. Messages are marked read automatically when viewed for six seconds. (I would forget to mark them as read otherwise). But then, If I determine a message needs action, I flag the message. Using the wonderful virtual folders of TheBat, I created a folder that contains all messages that are flagged but not replied. I also have a script that unflags messages that I reply to - I forget how I did that, but can supply details if interested. That way, when the messages leave the virtual flagged folder (after I reply to them), they don't retain the flag. I'm not totally there yet, my inbox has a couple thousand messages, because I don't do anything with them, but this has to change... I will probably make a filter do delete messages that are three months old if they are read, unflagged and not parked. An important message that I will refer to again several times, I will park. As I mentioned, I am not totally satisfied with my system and I am only scratching the surface of what TheBat! can do, so keep the suggestions coming. Thanks Roger for the spacebar tip. I've been using TheBat! for at least four years but this is new to me. Am I supposed to read the manual or something?! Doug Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
MFPA, Sunday, April 29, 2007, 3:42:12 PM, you wrote: M Hi M On Friday 27 April 2007 at 4:40:40 PM, in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Rudnick M wrote: I want to be able to read and process the messages that appear in my Inbox. Once I'm done with the message, I usually file it for future reference. My goal in filtering *read* messages is to automate the filing process. M You could always use incoming filters to do the filing but set up M a virtual folder to view all unread messages in any folder. That M way, already filed and disappears from the virtual folder when you M mark it as read. That is an interesting approach. I may consider it. thanks for pointing it out. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
Doug, Sunday, April 29, 2007, 3:55:37 PM, you wrote: DH Messages are marked read automatically when viewed for six seconds. DH (I would forget to mark them as read otherwise). But then, If I DH determine a message needs action, I flag the message. Good use of flagging. I may use this in my filtering approach. DH I'm not totally there yet, my inbox has a couple thousand messages, I heard that problems can occur if leaving messages in the Inbox. You may want to move read messages into a 'Hold' folder. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
Roger, Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:41:05 AM, you wrote: RP Hello Michael, RP Friday, April 27, 2007, 2:59:52 PM, among other things, you wrote: MR I'm experimenting with using filters for read messages. MR Any other suggestions on filtering read messages would be appreciated. MR RP There is one problem you should be aware of: RP I am assuming that you may be new to The Bat! and may not know that RP you can navigate through a list of messages just by using the space RP bar. If the message is long enough 'Space' moves one down the message RP and eventually moves one to the next unread message. At this point it RP marks the message you are leaving as 'Read' and this triggers any RP 'Read' filter, *except* if the message is the last one in the folder; RP for this last message you have to mark the message manually as 'Read' RP for the filter to trigger. RP I reported this problem in July 2005 but it has never been fixed. I'm not new to TheBat. I did notice this problem, though when messages were automatically moving after I checked them. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
MAU, Friday, April 27, 2007, 7:45:03 PM, you wrote: M Hello Michael, I'm experimenting with using filters for read messages. I've been filtering incoming mail for some time with good success. My goal is to have mail from common people or domains automatically go to the proper folder after I'm done with it. M What you want to do is similar to the set up I have. M - I have addresses for what you call 'common people' in my address book M and they all belong to a same Group. M - I have an Incoming filter that checks if Sender belongs to Group and, M if so, the message is moved to a folder that I called 'My Inbox'. M - In Account/Properties/Options I have disabled (deselected) the 'Mark M message as read when it has been read for..' so that messages are NOT M marked as read after N seconds. I want to decide when I am _done_ with a M message and I manually mark them as read with Ctrl+M (Actually, I have M customised this to use Space). M - It is this manually marking as read what triggers Read filters, and I M basically have two, both of them only looking (applying) to My Inbox M folder: MFilter 1.- If the message IS flagged, the message is moved to an M'Action-Reply' folder. (This way, if I want to reply later or take Mfurther action, I flag the message before marking it as Read). MFilter 2.- This filter will only trigger if 1 hasn't but, anyway, it Mchecks if the message is NOT flagged and then moves the message to Mfolder '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. M - I then have a Replied filter that similarly to Read filter 2, looks M only to folder 'Action-Reply' and moves the replied message to M '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. This one, together with an Outgoing M filter that checks if Address groups. Group contain first recipient, M move both the message I have just replied to and my own reply to folder M '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. M HTH. But if something is not clear enough or you need more detail, M please ask. So now I have a few questions for the experts! - If 'Manual' is not selected, when is mail filtered in a folder? M AFAIK, when manually marking it as read. - Will mail filter out of any folder? If so, I guess I can use a condition to only filter out of the Inbox. M Read and Replied filters have an extra 'Folders' tab where you can M select if the filter applies to 'Any folder' or just to one or more M folders. - I put a button on the toolbar to refilter. It's now 3 clicks to filter a folder (Refilter button, OK, Close). Is there any way to have the refilter process run without as much interaction (fewer clicks)? M Not that I know of. But I think you don't really need to use M 'Re-filter'. I just flagged your message. I'll have to look at a bit more thoroughly when I have a chance. I'm going to take your ideas and let the read filters work automatically. Just need a few minutes to wrap my mind around this. Thanks for the suggestions. I may write back when I'm actually implementing this. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
