Filter questions
Hi group, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. Exceptions: - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Best wishes, Harald Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hello REZK945, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. I'm not familiar with gpg or pgp, etc., but I assume there must be something unique to those messages. An specific header field, or textt within the body. Let's assume the uniqueness is -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- in the body. You would need a filter with condition: Text .does not contain. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and with Action 'Send automatic reply'. For my explanations below, lets call this filter 'GPG Filter' Exceptions: My suggestion would be to NOT include exceptions in the same filter with .AND NOT. conditions, but to set up a separate filter for each exception. Much more clear and easier to manage. Your filter structure should be: Exception 1 Exception 2 ... GPG Filter For this structure to work, nonre of the filter should have the 'Continue processing with other filters' option selected. - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? Yes, I thing using an AB Groups is a much better idea. Exception 1 Filter Address groups groupname contains sender - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. Exception 2 filter Subject contains newsticker .OR. Sublect contains newsletter - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? This would be your 'Exception 3' filter, and you must look for something unique in those messages. Perhaps the domain of the sender?. If so: Exception 3 filter Header field From: contains @amazon.com .OR. Header field From: contains @ebay.com - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe with something like: Recipient match RegExp But I am not at all familiar with Regular Expressions to suggest one. Sorry. Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Just add a new filter before the GPG one. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Hope mine are of some help. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello TBUDL, Still looking for an answer for this problem: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. Any ideas why the filtering doesn't work sometimes? Thanks JBB --- Jonathan B. Bayer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Jonathan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 1:39:21 PM, you wrote: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. The Bat!'s IMAP filtering is broken. I doubt it will ever get fixed since IMAP doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the developers. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. This does not matter, it fails exactly the same way even if you download the entire messages. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. In a similar setup (Dovecot + SuSE), I moved to server-side filtering using SIEVE. Works like a charm. If it is a possibility for you, try it. You won't regret the change. -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Jonathan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 6:39:21 AM, you wrote: Still looking for an answer for this problem: I have 3.99.29 installed. I've noticed that on my IMAP accounts, the filtering doesn't always work. When I exit and restart the program, and then select the unfiltered messages and run the input filters on the selected messages, then the filtering works. All the filters for this account simply refer to the headers, none refer to the contents of the messages. This way the filtering can work without downloading the entire messaes. The server is a Dovecot server, on a Fedora 6 system. This seems to be one of the problems with IMAP that is a known issue, but not being worked on until the next version is officaily released. It is odd as filtering tends to work most of the time, but fails sometimes and as you say works when you manual filter. It may have something to do with the problem of counters not updating correctly. Apparently a rewrite of the way TB! stores messages is necessary to fix. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 9:11:27 AM, Robert Tomanek wrote: The Bat!'s IMAP filtering is broken. I doubt it will ever get fixed since IMAP doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the developers. I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until TB! has been run to have my mail filtered. If I am filtering on a machine at site A, and am at site B, my mail won't get filtered until I travel to site A and crank up TB! If I am at a computer in Town C, and want to log on to my IMAP account in an internet cafe or at a relative's home my mail won't get filtered until I get home. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Dwight, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:08:15 AM, you wrote: DAC I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All DAC my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until DAC TB! has been run to have my mail filtered. If I am filtering on a DAC machine at site A, and am at site B, my mail won't get filtered until DAC I travel to site A and crank up TB! If I am at a computer in Town C, DAC and want to log on to my IMAP account in an internet cafe or at a DAC relative's home my mail won't get filtered until I get home. How can you do all your filtering server side? I do things in TB! that cannot be done on the server using filters that I know of. I also don't have my own server, but rely on the ISP for that. Just wondering if I'm missing something. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
On Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:26:55 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: How can you do all your filtering server side? I do things in TB! that cannot be done on the server using filters that I know of. ok. point well taken. I'm not currently doing any filtering sophisticated that I need TB! to do it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering not working on IMAP
Hello Dwight, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 6:08:15 PM, you wrote: I continue to wonder what the point of filtering in TB! for IMAP. All my filtering is done server side. That way I don't have to wait until The key point is that not everyone using IMAP has access to server side filtering. Some people happen to have full access to their servers but most can only use what their ISPs provide (and this often does not include SIEVE nor other filtering system). -- Best regards, Robert Tomanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello, -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
