Re: PGP 8.1 weirdness

2008-03-03 Thread O. Martin Moran
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On Monday, March 3, 2008 at 7:30:44 AM, MFPA wrote:

M> Decrypting/verifying is fine. Encrypting/signing randomly fails
M> to work, and when it fails it disables all pgp functions until
M> PGPserv.exe and TB! are restarted. It is random but frequent
M> enough that signing/encrypting either automatically or
M> manually using TB!'s built-in PGP support is not a viable option
M> for me

Well, allow me to vindicate you and tell you that, regularly, I am
repeating the problem.

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Re[2]: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-03 Thread Mean Drake
Hello David,

Monday, March 3, 2008, 1:24:18 PM, you wrote:

> The way to get around it is either.

> 1) Create a Sent filter which copiees the message back in to your inbox (or
> where ever you keep the list messages.

> or

> 2) Use a different SMTP service.

or (from my experience with Gmail)

3) Use IMAP access to Gmail instead of POP3

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Re: Problem sending Email

2008-03-03 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Thursday 28 February 2008 at 3:12:16 AM, in
, Mean Drake wrote:

> IIRC AVG by default installs the virus scanner to scan incoming
> and outgoing mail. So u don't have to reconfigure it. In fact I
> had unchecked the "Check outgoing mail" option back when I was
> using AVG. You could try doing the same.

I never understood the point of the outgoing check, especially if
you scan everything coming in. Also, would *you* trust somebody
else's "outgoing check" footer to confirm the message was clean?

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Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-03 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 1 March 2008 at 8:44:34 PM, in
, Rick Grunwald wrote:

> I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman
> like this one, yahoo groups etc.

> That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that
> other than ccing myself or another account. 

I had wondered if CC or BCCing yourself might work


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Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-03 Thread Rick Grunwald
> On Sunday, March 2, 2008, 8:41:29 PM, Rick Grunwald wrote:

>> Was there something incorrect in what I told him?

> I don't know. My response was to his question.  I probably hadn't
> even seen your response when I responded.

He asked about mailing lists and how they interacted. If you send a
message through (say) your normal ISP account TO A MAILING LIST you
will get a copy back. Not so with a Gmail account. (There are caveats
to that statement since there are settings in many list manager
programs to stop you from getting a copy back)

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Re: PGP 8.1 weirdness

2008-03-03 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 2 March 2008 at 9:05:30 PM, in
, O. Martin Moran
wrote:

> There is something weird going on with The Bat! 4.0.14 and PGP 8.1.
> I find that if I go to encrypt something and get as far as the
> "select keys to encrypt to" screen, then back out, both The Bat! and
> PGP 8.1 need a restart.

I have always found it safer to encrypt using PGPtray's "current
window" function.

Nobody else has been able to replicate my problem, which arose
when I started using TB! v2.x with PGP 8.0.x and remains to date
with PGP 8.1 and TB! 4.0.14

Decrypting/verifying is fine. Encrypting/signing randomly fails
to work, and when it fails it disables all pgp functions until
PGPserv.exe and TB! are restarted. It is random but frequent
enough that signing/encrypting either automatically or
manually using TB!'s built-in PGP support is not a viable option
for me

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Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-03 Thread David Elliott
Hello Dwight,

Monday, March 3, 2008, 3:29:02 AM, you wrote:

>> Was there something incorrect in what I told him?

No.

> I don't know. My response was to his question. I probably hadn't even seen
> your response when I responded.

I had but I thought I would sit back and see when you two would run out of
steam.

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> the conversation was about the fact that it was a known fact the message
> would never hit the inbox, but whether a pop connection would be able to
> collect it anyway.

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This was correct, but so was this as well but the above was closer to the
meaning of what I had sent.

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> Excuse me sir, the person asked why he wasn't getting his email back
> when sent to a mailing list from a gmail address

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The result is that gmail will hide any of your posting to a list it you
send it though there SMTP gateway with the credentials of the from address.

It places all your sent mail into your sent box and will filter out the
return message from the list back to you.

The way to get around it is either.

1) Create a Sent filter which copiees the message back in to your inbox (or
where ever you keep the list messages.

or

2) Use a different SMTP service.

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