Re: Problem with Spam Filter

2008-06-10 Thread Grumpy Gamer
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:15:36 +0200, Roelof Otten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The
C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was
C processed by Spam (Known).

That's good, isn't it? ;-)


Yes - it would seem that the filter is catching the message, which is
great.

C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says
C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me
C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)?

Are you sure it still is present on your server?
I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action.
In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the
message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded
travel through the Inbox.
As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the
downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an
action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days
on the server.


The message has gone from the server - I have The Bat set to remove
all messages on download anyway. I have misunderstood that option in
the first place - I thought that it looked at the from address while
the message was still on the server, and then would delete it without
needing to download it. What actions do I need so that I never see the
message in the first place?

C --

Your signature delimiter isn't working properly.

Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be
the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further
line down. Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better?
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GG



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Re: Problem with Spam Filter

2008-06-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:17 +1000GMT (10-6-2008, 10:05 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought
C that it looked at the from address while the message was still on
C the server, and then would delete it without needing to download
C it.

Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the
message headers and can kill the message from server before the full
message will be downloaded.
However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download
time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded
twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and
a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message
mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble.
Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action
for selective download filters.

C What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first
C place?

'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete
from server'
My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB
to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you
know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you)
so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for
false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too.

C Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be
C the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further
C line down.

The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash
dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I
can't comment on how to achieve that.

C Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better?

Yes.

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Re[3]: Smartspace

2008-06-10 Thread Dan Lester
Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:45:10 PM, you wrote:

 I had never tried that feature until reading this thread.  It seems to
 work fine here.  I usually takes 2 presses of the space to get 
 through a message, then it jumps to the next unread message.  A nice 
 feature.

Works the same way it did in various **ix based mail systems. (and I'm
sure still does)

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Re[2]: Smartspace

2008-06-10 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Hendrik,

Monday, June 9, 2008, 8:49:06 PM, you wrote:

 Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? I really miss that feature...

 In Version 4.0.24.17 this is working fine.

 I remember some trouble around this feature some weeks ago.

I had never tried that feature until reading this thread.  It seems to 
work fine here.  I usually takes 2 presses of the space to get 
through a message, then it jumps to the next unread message.  A nice 
feature.


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Re[2]: Smartspace

2008-06-10 Thread Günter Minnerup
On Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:49:06 PM, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote:

 Günter Minnerup wrote on 10/06/2008 at 06:23:43 +1100 
 subject Smartspace :

 I used to be able to move from unread message to unread message using
 the SPACE bar but at some point that stopped working. Just discovered
 that it must be explicitly enabled under Options/Preferences/Messages
 so I did, but it still doesn't work, even after a restart of TB!

 Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? I really miss that feature...

 In Version 4.0.24.17 this is working fine.

 I remember some trouble around this feature some weeks ago.


I've now installed 4.0.24. Still doesn't work...

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