Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


31 October 2013




I am getting headers showing two identical From: header lines, and in
the area where you manage the headers to display, that too is showing
two From: header lines, please see screen shot linked. Un-ticking one
of the two From: boxes works until a screen refresh, the both From:
headers are back. I can see the extra From: header in Options :
Preferences : Message Headers, but the option to delete either of the
two is greyed out. Thanks.TB1 is V 5.8.8 but did it with an earlier
5.8 version too.

http://www.gatesgarth.com/headers.jpg



I also just noticed I have two of the same View Modes called Generic
View Mode. Neither of these can be deleted. If it helps View Modes and
message pane tabs seem to have a mind of their own, which was one
reason I upgraded to a V5.* from the last of the V4 versions. To be
honest View Modes are a mess, unintuitive and to me, flaky in the
extreme :) Could a file be corrupted that is copied across versions?
Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.



__

  Best Regards, Chris Wilson

  mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Chris,
  A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT +

CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.

I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them 
once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :)

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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 10:53:55 GMT +

CW Will V6 address this in any way? Thanks.

 I had the same mucked up View modes, doubles etc. and was able to delete them
 once I installed the v6 alpha. So there is hope. :)



31 October 2013


  Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
  confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
  many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
  nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
  many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
  Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
  disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
  messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
  more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
  twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Chris,
  A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View Mode
and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
No View Mode it just takes over everything.

-- 
Best regards,
 Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm
 Using The Bat! v6.0.0.21 (BETA)
 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601



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IMAP SEND PROBLEM

2013-10-31 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Bat Users,

I   just  changed  two  accounts over to IMAP at my ISPs suggestion. I
receive  messages  just fine but I can not send any.  My SMTP settings
are  exactly  the same as they were with as a POP account but the send
button is totally dead when I want to send a message.

I'm using TB 5.5.8.   Thanks.

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Re: IMAP SEND PROBLEM

2013-10-31 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Richard,
  A reminder of what Richard Newman typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 12:55:41 GMT -0400

RN I   just  changed  two  accounts over to IMAP at my ISPs suggestion. I
RN receive  messages  just fine but I can not send any.  My SMTP settings
RN are  exactly  the same as they were with as a POP account but the send
RN button is totally dead when I want to send a message.

RN I'm using TB 5.5.8.   Thanks.

Is the Authentication for SMTP set? Using Same User name and password?

-- 
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 Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm
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 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601



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Re: IMAP SEND PROBLEM

2013-10-31 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Stuart,

Thursday, October 31, 2013, 1:03:03 PM, you wrote:
SC Is the Authentication for SMTP set?
Yes as perform SMTP Authencication (RFC 2425)
SC Using Same User name and password?
While  the  user name and password are the same. I have it set to use
specific settings with the same information as receive.

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 Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com
=== 
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Re: IMAP SEND PROBLEM

2013-10-31 Thread scuddy
Hello Richard,
  A reminder of what Richard Newman typed on:
  Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:25:48 GMT -0400

SC Is the Authentication for SMTP set?
RN Yes as perform SMTP Authencication (RFC 2425)
SC Using Same User name and password?
RN While  the  user name and password are the same. I have it set to use
RN specific settings with the same information as receive.

What port are you using?

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 Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net
 Using The Bat! v6.0.0.21 (BETA)
 On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601



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Re: IMAP SEND PROBLEM

2013-10-31 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Scuddy,

Thursday, October 31, 2013, 5:32:16 PM, you wrote:
smn What port are you using?
I've  used  25,  26 (Verizon ISP specific), 2525 (A2Hosting specific),
and 465 with Secure SSL/TLS settings.

When I set-up another IMAP account without mirroring a POP account, it
has  worked fine with simple 2525 non-SSL Settings. So I suspect there
is  something  corrupt  in my setting up a mirror of the POP account I
wanted to convert/eliminate.

So I'm moving everything back to POP. Thanks.
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Re[2]: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Wilson


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View 
 Mode
 and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
 No View Mode it just takes over everything.



31 October 2013


  I am really at the end of my tether now, since playing with the
  fickle View Modes and Tabs I see a huge number of folders have
  changed their Unread / Read properties to showing a huge quantity
  as UNREAD. As far as I can see there's no going back over such a
  change. Despite the odd anomalies with the last of the V 4.* Bat!
  versions, nothing like this has ever occurred before. Paying for an
  upgrade to the latest V5.* has not been a pleasant experience. All I
  wanted was ALL folders to be set with a View Mode showing all
  messages threaded in reverse date order, and the new (to me) Tabs
  showing either : All / Today / Yesterday / This Week / or Unread.

  EXTREMELY unimpressed!

  That aside, many thanks for your frank advice :)



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Re: Two From headers, and two undeletable View Modes issues

2013-10-31 Thread Rick


 Hello Chris,
   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   Thursday, October 31, 2013 at 13:12:53 GMT +

CW Thanks Stuart, the more I look at View Modes, and tabs the more
CW   confused I get. The whole thing needs a rethink, there are far too
CW   many means of accessing the menus for these, and seemingly no rhyme
CW   nor reason in what overrides what. I have used The Bat! for very
CW   many years, and generally it's superb, but View Modes, Global View
CW   Modes, Folder View Modes and now Tabs. What a hodge podge of
CW   disparate menus, it needs sorting! I have now managed to lock up TB!
CW   messing with these, it *appears* using Tabs it will try and select
CW   more than one tab at a time, and also seems to get its knickers in a
CW   twist balancing Tabs and View Modes and deciding which to use.

 The one thing I learned early on, was to set Global View Mode to No View 
 Mode
 and leave it there. I see no purpose for it and if you set it to anything but
 No View Mode it just takes over everything.

Same here. I create my own and use them where appropriate



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