The Bat and Imap4

[Aladdin]

Hello TBUDL,

  I have a lotus server. I want to know, can I work with messages kept
  on Lotus server through IMAP4? Can I subscribe and unsubscribe
  folders which exists on Lotus, like Outook express can? Help me
  please!

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Fw: Re: Redirecting/Forwarding mail to Groups (was: Re: Default column propertie

[Aladdin Bartlett]

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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roel)
   Date: 03/10/20, 07:05:50 ã
Subject: Re: Redirecting/Forwarding mail to Groups (was: Re: Default column propertie

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Hello Michael,

R>> use "groupname "
R>> that should do the trick :-)

R>> (groupname is the 'handle' you gave the group in the adress-book)
R>>   (^-> distinctive name)

MH> Do I really have to type the word "list"?  And how do I tell TB in which
MH> of my three address books it can find the handle?

you do have to type 'list', else TB won't know that it has to look
for address-book-group-handles

MH> The problem is that I have two the same 'handles' ("Everyone") in two
MH> different address books, and I have to redirect incoming mail of a
MH> certain account to *both* these handles.

try renaming the handles... like (everyone-suppliers &
everyone-customers)

MH> And where the heck is this stuff documented?

don't know that - maybe in V2 ;-)


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Fw: Re: Newbie Stuff

[Aladdin Bartlett]

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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Fernandez)
   Date: 03/10/20, 06:57:57 ã
Subject: Re: Newbie Stuff

Hallo Douglas,

On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 15:01:52 -0600 GMT (09.01.2000, 05:01 +0800 GMT),
Douglas Hinds wrote:

>>> When you subscribe to things nowadays, sometimes you're given a
>>> choice of HTML of plain text but most of the time not at all, you
>>> get HTML. Email and HTML have to mix nowadays.

DH> Band width hogging. Fills message with extraneous code. Bad for 3rd
DH> world countries (inc. emailing them) where people have scarce
DH> resources and poor ISP options.

OTOH it's the trend of the day. He is saying *if* you get HTML mail
(which I hate myself), you will need to see it correctly. I like what
TB does: you can toggle HTML Autoview off/on, but it will *not*
connect you to web page or whatever. This prevents trojans or whatever
to invade your system. I wouldn't like TB's behaviour to change.

>>> I'd like to select which account to send the email from (down arrow)
>>> in the send mail when I'm about to send it, not have to send it from
>>> the account I'm editing in.

AVK>> You already have this possibility. Look into Options-->Active
AVK>> account in the message editor window.

Right.

DH> It should be visible, in a window to change it with. The same for
DH> multiple signatures. (A la C)

In the editor window, I always have View/From Addr "on". so I see what
account any particular email is sent from - and can change that easily
with Options/Active Account.

>>> Some small stuff like "change case", "wrap, unwrap", "remove quotes
>>> in message" etc.

Change case exists, somebody just reported crtl-], crtl-[, crtl-\.
Check out. "Wrap" exists, play a bit with the Utilities menu in the
editor window, and also try alt-j, alt-c, alt-L. I don't know what is
"unwrap".

>>> The ability to work with sentences or paragraphs or both.

Hit the period key ".", and a sentence will finish and a new one
start. Hit "enter" twice, and a new paragraph will start. ;-) IOW I
don't understand your question.

>>> When I'm composing a message, tell me which mailbox I'm in, in
>>> case the gray cells get lost.

Options-->>>Avtive account is checked.

Or: keep View/From Address "on". No need to click anything.

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Fw: Re: Wish list from a new user of The Bat

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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Sullivan)
   Date: 03/10/20, 06:54:23 ã
Subject: Re: Wish list from a new user of The Bat

On Sunday 9 January 2000 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> On 9 Jan 00, at 3:24, Steve Lamb wrote:
>> Plug-ins are not the end-all, be-all answer, trust me.

I agree here. After all, the logical extension of this is the null
application which does *nothing* other that to make calls to its
plug-ins!

> Gee, I feel like wishing to agree with this;-) Plugins are excellent way to *add*
> functionality that doesn't belong to the main featureset of the program. But you
> won't reimplement the features already available, however buggy, via plugins:-)

Actually, there *are* ways to implement this.

Going back to MS's Object Model design guide[1], one of the design
models they recommend is that the host application implement events
for pretty much all of its actions. An interested plug-in can then
register for these events. When performing some action, The Bat! would
then call the plug-in twice: the first before doing any processing,
the second afterwards. Both calls pass a complete set of parameters
for the action to the plug-in, and the first call also passes an
additional "Cancel" parameter, so that the plug-in can completely
suppress the built-in functionality if it so desires. It should be
clear that when done properly this results in a *very* powerful
facility for the plug-in writer, and having implemented it myself I
can say that it contributes a minimal amount of bloat to the host
application.

(I will try and dig out an on-line link to this document. The only
copy I have is a print-out.)

[1] I know Steve doesn't like MS (I assume you're running The Bat!
in the WINE emulator under Linux then ;-), however to state that
everything they do and everyone who programs for them is bad is a
logical impossibility - if they were *that* incompetent then you'd
expect at least a few good people to slip through their
recruitment procedures!

>> > Some people want handy little reminders, it would be nice to be able
>> > to go download a little package that adds those reminders.
>>
>> Nor have I ever seen plug-ins be able to integrate themselves into a
>> program to be able to do this.  Plug-ins cannot modify the core program unless
>> they are given access to do so.

And that's the crunch - you only achieve the most powerful
capabilities when the host application exposes *all* its actions and
functionality to the plug-in interface.

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