Re: PC Pro Approves!
Hello Marck, MDP Then again, while I think that custom toolbars will be both useful and MDP welcome, I think about how often I use a mouse to control TB and find MDP it's not a lot. E-mail is a very keyboard-centric activity. I seldom MDP use the mouse when in a read, reply, write, send cycle. I totally agree that mail business is very keyboard centric. So, I wonder if there isn't a way to enhance this. I just worked with the newsreader Gravity and I'm very impressed by the way one can navigate with keystrokes. Navigating in panes It's very comfortable pressing the keys 1, 2 or 3 for changing the window focus. This seems very superior to the TAB and SHIFT+TAB solution. May I ask if this can be realised in TB! too? The keys are not in use in the folder and text panes and in the thread pane they start only the quick search (I could live with the loss of quickly searching for 1, 2 or 3). Closing threads I know there is a way to close *all* threads in TB! with SHIFT+CTRL+* regardeless which mail in a thread has the focus. But closing only a *single* thread with - is only possible when the first mail in a thread has the focus. Here too, Gravity seems superior, as - will close a *single* thread (and leaving others expanded) on *any* mail in the thread. Is there a way to achieve this in TB!? Besides this (and other flaws I will find in the future ;-) TB! is an outstanding software. -- Regards Bernhard Kohl Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: e-mail clients in general
Hello Peter, DH Any top five lists!? PP 1.) The Bat! v1.49 PP 2.) The Bat! v1.52 PP 3.) The Bat! v1.53 PP 4.) The Bat! v1.54/Beta32 PP 5.) The Bat! v1.60c Really, in this order? From many of your other postings I'd guessed that v 1.60c is the MUA of your choice and on top position 1 ;-) Regards Bernd Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just curious why ....
Hello, In an interview with Stefan Tanurkov published on your web site at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/interview.html, the author himself announced the following features and the imminence of the first beta release (that was in January 2000). Let me quote: Plugins: Yes, that is true. It will be possible to extend The Bat! using DLLs AND scripts. Scripting: I guess, we will end up making it possible to add a script language plug-in so users can choose what scripting language they'd like to use :-) Yes, please! -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Editing/Composing Messages
Hello, DH Addressing dull: There are some things in TB!'s UI that need to be DH done. But shouldn't they have more to do with usability, i.e. DH customizable tool bars, than taste? The only programme on which I use DH those non-dull skins is Winamp. But that is only used once or twice a DH year when I don't want to fire up bigger programmes to hear 10 secs of DH MP3. Neither GetRight nor Opera gets eye candy on my machine. I prefer DH dull, technological looks that are easy to handle. After all I DH adhere to form follows function usability as I use my computer as a DH working machine (in every sense available). I don't want to hold forth about a dull look of TB and, of course, looks are a matter of taste but form follows fucntion doesn't mean that every look that works will be ok. After all, I think that generally speaking most Windows programs look somewhat dull. Take a look at the other system (no, not Linux, the one with the apple) and you will know that programs may look cool and follow function. -- Bernd -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Januk, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 20:09:57: JA Could you please explain what is this reminder feature? Perhaps JA there is a solution available. I think of a mail that I will write and save now but want sending deferred until a certain date and/or time (Eudora does this). Then, You can extend this idea to a recurring mail, e g. an invitation for the weekly meeting. JA Also, we should move this to the TBTECH list if we start trying to JA make a VBScript. -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hallo Dierk, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 16:19:34: DH the more users there are the more wishes will be uttered. And to be DH sure, some of these will be sensible, others debatable, and some pure DH nonsense. DH Need an example? Look at the new HTML viewer - when the memory problem DH is solved I will surely use it, because it offers some nice formatting DH options for reading. But there will also be, some day, the option to DH write HTML mails. some want it, I dread it. DH It is quite funny how often I have to tell people how to uncheck Send DH mail as HTML when they definitely don't need it for their mails. Just DH because they use OE. DH To summarize: You can't have everything, not even with MS (compare DH Paradox to Access, 1-2-3 to Excel, Papyrus to Word). I totally agree with you! And I really don't wont a jack of all trades. What I wrote was that any developer should carefully read where users feel uncomfortable with their software (and I assume Ritlabs will do so). Therafter, they can discard any of this ideas, of course, if they think that the wanted feature doesn't fit their program. -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Thomas, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 31. August 2001, 06:03:39: ... TF Thanks for your crossposting without sensible contents, and for your TF lack of interest to discuss (and BTW this is a mailing list, not a TF newsgroup). Good riddance. Sorry, I disagree that there is no sensible content in Alexander's mail. He decided to skip to another mailer due to some features he prefers in Becky. So, it could be interesting to the developers what makes users feel uncomfortable with TB and enhance their product. After all they can discard these ideas or see that they already knew that but nevertheless they shouldn't ignore users wishes. Concretely there are two points Alexander thinks Becky is superior to TB: 1. Filters 2. Reminders I myself don't think that TB's filters are poor but who knows, maybe we can learn from Becky (or other mailers). And as to reminders they are on the TB's wishlist for a long, long time ... and I miss them a lot! (Maybe, me too will abandon TB very soon for the lack of reminders if I can't reasonably emulate them with a script and a scheduler. I hope I have not to change for I appreciate TB a lot). And after a quick look into Becky I like the idea to edit the mail on the fly in an extern editor. After all, I think that there was sense in Alexander's mail and I wish the developers read carefully how their customers feel! -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:Poco means Not Much
Hello Douglas, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 29. Juni 2001, 13:11:10: DH P.S. DH poco means not much in Spanish my general feeling is that it's no DH much of a competitor compared to TB! What I'm looking from is DH confirmation of this from someone who has looked at it recently, DH since I don't plan on doing so myself. poco 1 (adj;pron) (sg;gen) little; (pequeño) small; (escaso) slight, scanty; I'm sorry, but not much is a very derogatory translation; small will describe the program more precise. Maybe it's not a real competitor to TB! ( and I'm using TB! for myself) but there is at least a very nice macro language in Poco I'd like to have in TB! And as to the confirmation: a man has to do his experiences for himself ... -- Regards, Bernd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:
Hello, I'm not sure there is a solution using TB! on its own. There are some REGEXP to replace AW: with Re: in answering a mail. ^ But what you are trying to do is replacing strings in incoming mail. And I was told some time ago that TB! isn't capable of doing that. What you can try is a german tool named Hamster with Korrnews http://home.knuut.de/tgl/own/hamtools.htm which will act as it's own mail and news server and will do the replacements. Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too ..
Hallo David, Mitteilung vom Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2001, 11:25:01: DvZ Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 This line should be (on Windows NT 4): REGEDIT4 DvZ [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!] DvZ ProtectDisableOpen=HAPPY99.EXE,LOVELETTER*.VBS,*.PIF,*.SCR,*.SHS DvZ ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG DvZ ProtectWarnOpen=*.*,*.EXE,*.COM,*.BAT,*.CMD,*.VBS,*.JS,*.PL,*.BAS,*.JAVA,*.REG DvZ Replace version 5.00 with 4.00 if you're not on a Win2k machine. Call DvZ the text file whateveryoulike.reg execute it and bingo. You can add DvZ whatever you like. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Bernhard Kohl -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Replacing subject of incoming mail
Hallo Syafril, Mitteilung vom Freitag, 27. April 2001, 06:20:02: SH Hello Bernhard Kohl, BK is there a way to filter incoming messages so that a subject BK AW: x is replaced with Re: x? SH I thought this already covers on FAQ (Regex), see at SH http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com. Sorry, of course I've read the FAQ before asking but all I've found is how to reduce Re[2]: to a single Re: or somethig like that for ***outgoing*** messages. There are some macros (templates) for ***replying*** but I want this for ***incoming*** messages. Did I miss something? Thanks, Bernd -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Replacing subject of incoming mail
Hello, is there a way to filter incoming messages so that a subject AW: x is replaced with Re: x? Thanks! -- Bernd -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Send again message
Hello, previously, I used Eudora 4 for mailing. Now that I've switched to TB i miss a handy feature of Eudora. In the Sent-Folder one can right-click an a message to send again. Then the message pops up and I can change the headers (another TO: for example or change the topic) or the message body. Is there a way to do this in TB? Thanks for any help -- Regards, Bernhard Kohl mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Send again message
Hallo Dierk, Mitteilung vom Dienstag, 24. April 2001, 10:22:41: DH Drag the message to the Outbox and double click it. Thanks! -- Regards, Bernhard Kohlmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Send again message
Hello André, Mitteilung vom Dienstag, 24. April 2001, 12:34:14: DH Drag the message to the Outbox and double click it. AE Isn't that the same as when I select the message in the Sent folder AE and press redirect only difference would be that you'd have to fill AE in the To: Field again or am I missing something? Of course, that's a way to achieve it but it's inconvenient in some way. I used this often to send a message again to the same recipient when I got no answer after a certain amount ot time. So, I right-clicked Send again and inserted Reminder: before the old subject. Doing it the way you suggest would require some extra work :-( and I'm lazy... -- Regards, Bernhard Kohlmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org