Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Chris G
Hello Dennis,



Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:52:36 AM, you wrote:

DWG What is JFW? Why use Eudora on this list? Why no cut line?

jfw stands for jaws for windows from www.freedomscientific.com
it's a software program that will allow blind and visually impared people to use the 
computer.
it makes the computer talk.
sometimes the screen readers do not interact good with programs.
this is why i hope ritlabs will include some accessibility feachers.
the bat is a very nice and powerfull program, but it's not always speech friendly.
Chris




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Re[3]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-02 Thread Chris G
Hello Allen,



Thursday, October 2, 2003, 10:50:03 AM, you wrote:



A 10/2/2003, 10:20 AM: Leif said in Suggestion for better message list view reading
where can one download beta versions of the bat?

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Re[2]: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-30 Thread Chris G
Hello Andrew,

i've found that using the bat 2.0 with another screenr eader, sometimes when pressing 
enter on a message the message will not read.
the text is there, but it doesn't read.  i also don't like the change in the bat 2 
when i press delete in a message window it doesn't close the window and move back to 
the list like it did in 1.6xx it just opens the next message in that window.
i've also found that the spell check alt-c for the shortcut doesn't work also.
one needs to tab through  and press space on the change button and it'll change the 
item.


Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 10:41:34 AM, you wrote:

AH   Hello Krister,

AH Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 2:05:49 PM, you wrote:

KE -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
KE Hash: SHA1

KE Hi Andrew,
KE In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KE  On 30 Sep 2003 12:28:09  (my local time 13:28:09), you typed:
AH   Two  other  problems I have are that the source viewer (press f9) is
AH   not  accessible  to  me at any rate, because when you press the down
AH   arrow  it moves the whole screen down instead of the cursor, this is
AH   known  to  screen  reader users as a static cursor, and is something
AH   that  makes a lot of email clients inaccessible, and is one reason I
AH   like  The Bat for email, as it does not have one on the main message
AH   viewer.
KE Sorry, i must be tired or something, i don't fully understand where
KE the problem lies, on the other hand, I've never used the view source
KE feature, so can't really say what this is supposed to do.

AH   It  displays the email in its entirity including the header, and the
AH   different  mime  entities  in the raw format.  Press f9 on any email
AH   and  a  window  will pop up displaying the full source of the email.
AH   If you go to the edit menu, you can sellect all, then copy and paste
AH   it  into  notepad, but it would be nice to read the contents of that
AH   window.

AH Also, in the spell checker, when pressing alt+c to change a
AH   word to the sellected choice, it doesn't seem to happen, instead the
AH   same  word comes up and up again for correction in the same place in
AH   the document.

KE Hmm, haven't checked into this. A few seconds later... I've actually
KE checked the spell checker dialog, and i think that your best bet is to
KE tab around the dialog, this seems to work kinda nice.
KE Sorry i couldn't be of more help.

AH   The  tab  key works to get you round the box, and if you press space
AH   on  the  buttons  it works fine, but if you for example press alt+c,
AH   which  is  the  shortcut for change, it doesn't work (or as far as I
AH   can see it doesn't).

AH Andrew.




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Re[2]: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-30 Thread Chris G
 is there a way that ritlabs can have the message list be a standard list view.
sometimes when i arrow up and down the list of messages winow-eyes can't read the 
entire line, or it skipps over name/subject. or something, it's not usable.

i have the bat on my lap top where this is an issue.

on my desktop it's not so much of an issue, but if the list was a standard list view 
it wouldn't be an issue, and it would effect the use of the bat with whatever screen 
reader one chooses to use.
i know that Hal 5.21 doesn't have an issue.

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Re[3]: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-30 Thread Chris G


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On 10/1/2003 at 4:42 AM Pranav Lal wrote:

Have you tried reclassifying the folder list?
Yes, and it didn't work. made it worse.
Chris




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