Re: Exiting TB by killing through task manager
On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 22:12:58, Marten Gallagher wrote: And re-starting to overcome the connection center hanging, am I likely to do any damage? Not likely, as long as you don't do it in the moment it's compacting it's message bases (this doesn't happen automatically though, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about). -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall not be disappointed. -- Franklin's Rule Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting no help from support...
On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 22:10:15, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: In the case that you only have one email address, a possible solution would be an IMAP account, were the mails stay on the server forever and you only read them at home with your email program of choice. Don't suggest that to Outlook (Express) user - from my experiences, the IMAP support in Outlook (even 2003) is awful at best (and very confusing to inexperienced user), and I wouldn't count on OE to have it any better. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made. -- Glyme's Formula for Success Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Assassin thinks The Bat! can't send HTML message only
On Thursday, November 3, 2005, 15:50:06, John Sherman wrote: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plus22.host4u.net Whoever's running that host should upgrade. SpamAssassin 3.0 came out a long time ago. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ When anything is used to its full potential, it will break. -- Poulsen's Law Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oops!! Power Failure
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 16:57:52, Spike wrote: TB! told me the message bases were corrupted. The folder item 'maintenance' was greyed out, and TB! said to run chkdsk. Well, this is now called SCANDISK under Win-XP (hint, developers!). No, it isn't. NT-based Windows never included scandisk, they contain chkdsk.exe that works in console (and can run in the bootup environment, before the window station is started up). FYI, the message about chkdsk wasn't even from The Bat, but from Windows itself - it's an usual message when Windows decides there's something wrong with the file you're trying to gain access to. I ran SCANDISK and it ZEROED OUT the message bases for these two lists, plus about 5 others! Scandisk might have been the culprit - it's not a tool meant for NT/2k/XP (though I have a hard time believing it ran at all - unless your disks use FAT32). Zeroing out the files means that the errors were unrecoverable, though I haven't seen this happen on NTFS yet - but it's usual on FAT/FAT32, especially if a file was opened while the computer crashed. Anyway, to prevent this from happening in the future, convert your drives to NTFS. Not only your data will be safer, Windows will also start up faster. To do this, go to Start-Run and run CONVERT C: /FS:NTFS /X You'll have to reboot, and on startup, Windows will convert your drive to NTFS. This can take a while, depending on the number of files on your disk. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Actually, it only SEEMS as though you mustn't be deceived by appearances. -- The Obvious Law Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oops!! Power Failure
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 18:30:35, Nick Dutton wrote: Assuming that your bases were corrupted because Windows had not written its cached image of your files to disk when the PC died, you could perhaps disable write caching on the external drive? It's under the disk's properties, then Hardware-Properties-Policies. Write caching is automatically disabled for USB hard drives, unless you specifically enable it in the disk properties in Device manager. Problem is that these USB drives usually use FAT32 filesystem, which will almost certainly zero out files that were opened at the time of power loss. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Celibacy is not hereditary. -- First Law of Socio-Genetics Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Verisign with TB?
On Monday, June 13, 2005, 14:55:38, Darrin wrote: How do I verify if I set my Digital ID up with TB correctly? I cant verify myself can I? The signature verifies here. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Whenever the cause of the people is entrusted to professors, it is lost. -- Lenin's Law Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving mail from TheBat to Mac help please
On Friday, June 10, 2005, 20:52:45, Dragan Mac Ruzic wrote: Now, selecting Inbox and going to Tools/Export... I've got three choices, which one to chose? Unix Mailbox - it's a standard format that almost all mail software supports. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Any fool can make a rule, and every fool will mind it. -- Thoreau's Rule Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows xp 64bit support
On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 15:36:06, finalcut wrote: Before I install the 64bit edition, is thebat supporting the 64bit edition of windows xp? The only programs that don't work on Windows XP/2003 x64 are 16-bit (Windows 3.x) programs and stuff that uses 32-bit device drivers. The Bat doesn't fall in either of these categories. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Every employee begins at his level of competence. -- Peter's Hidden Postulate According to Godin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 0:57:11, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: My intention was only to state a bold be aware when talking about free-of-cost antivirus programs. since in that context, I found no free software that serves the purpose well enough; and another be aware seeing how easily people recommend this or that program, just because they like it - and this personal liking often goes beyond functionality and/or reason. My experience: during the two latest worm outbreaks (Bagle.AZ and something else), AVG Free detected the virus several hours before Trend Micro, NAV and Panda have. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Nothing matters very much, and few things matter at all. -- Erhard's Contention Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no UTF-8 support in TB?
On Wednesday, March 2, 2005, 6:12:49, Roman Katzer wrote: Is this worth a bug report? Look at the message headers first. Unless the charset is declared there, it's not a bug in TB, but a bug in whichever client generated that message. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Variables won't; constants aren't. -- Osborn's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 9:01:54, John Phillips wrote: Just wondering, as the subject line says, can Bat! correctly handle ultra high speed connections? Or just a coincidence? TB has no problems with fast connections. I'm used to downloading mail with over 200kB/s (or a few MB/s when getting it from the local POP3 server). TB is on the safe side though - it will not issue the delete command until the message is safely stored in the message base (TB first downloads to a temporary directory, and then moves the message to it's bases). This is why the deleting is always a few messages behind, and also why the messages that couldn't be stored in the corrupt message bases stayed on the server. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Usefulness is inversely proportional to reputation for being useful. -- Greenberg's First Law of Influence Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?
On Saturday, February 5, 2005, 19:01:54, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Thats the stuff I don't like either. Maybe a future TB function to download remote images should include a check that the URL does not contain an email address, or some other measure to prevent web bugs. It doesn't have to be e-mail address at all - unique identifiers can be hidden like this, too: http://some.site/images/xyz1234.png http://xyz123.some.site/title.jpg -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ No books are lost by lending except those you particularly wanted to keep. -- Atwoods Corollary Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Just got an email from Ritlabs
On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 17:58:25, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Yes, 7-Zip rocks! Pity though its only available for Windows ATM... Command-line 7z has been ported to (at least) linux: http://p7zip.sf.net/ -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ The trouble with resisting temptation is it may never come your way again. -- Korman's conclusion Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wheres the Archive for TBUDL?
On Sunday, December 19, 2004, 16:47:06, Darrin Rich wrote: Ive seen it, but forgot to bookmark the site. Someone send me the link please. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.user -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ You always find something in the last place you look. -- Boob's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Apple Mac
On Thursday, December 9, 2004, 13:18:45, Chris wrote: Yes, you will need an emulator or something like Wine. Wine has worked for some in the past, but less success has been had with version 3 (due mainly to the installer). Something like Virtual PC will almost surely work. You should know that Wine only works on x86-compatible architectures. Macs use PowerPC architecture, which won't run x86 code, so Wine won't be able to run The Bat. Under PPC Linux, it's possible to use Qemu http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ to run x86 executables directly, however Qemu is still in development, though some people were successful in running Wine with it. But it's user-mode emulator (which is required for running programs compiled for another architecture directly) is currently Linux-only, and even though OS X port is in progress, it is not usable yet AFAIK. The only option currently would be to use either Virtual PC or Qemu system emulator, and install Windows and The Bat in it. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one takes him. -- Kelly's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that challenges every poster to a mailing list). -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ A computer makes as many mistakes in two seconds as 20 men working 20 years. -- Horowitz's Rule Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup and purge very old messages
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 11:03:29, Kariem Hussein wrote: I used to think of Pine (or Horde Webmail), where the user is asked at the start of each month to automatically clean some folders. The problem is that I do not only want to delete these messages, but save them somewhere in order to access them later on. A big part of my life is saved in my email messages :) I use Delete messages older than and have folder-specific deletion set that Normal deletion just moves those messages to an Archive subfolder. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ The only way a reporter should look at a politician is down. -- Kent's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG antivirus and TB
On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 15:43:16, MFPA wrote: Is this normal? Yes, since viruses normally don't come in message bodies. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ If at first you don't succeed read the manual. -- Montgomery's Maxim Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! -- Windows-1251 as Default Encoding?
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 2:32:48, David M. Dickerson wrote: I spent hours and hours trying to get The Bat! to work with a KOI8-R-encoded signature file, but I finally gave up and used a Windows-1251/Cyrillic-encoded signature file. (All of my research indicated that I should use KOI8-R for Russian e-mail.) I don't know if this applies to Russian, too, but if I %include a text file in Windows-1250 encoding in the template, it's automatically translated to iso-8859-2 when I start a new message - so try saving your signature as Windows-1251, and setting the default charset to KOI8-R. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. -- Panic Instruction Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding and TB attachment extension
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 18:12:48, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I did not find any information if the .eml format was indeed invented by Microsloth, or someone else; since TB exports .eml files as well, it maybe is an open format (or does Rit pay royalties to M$? I doubt it). .eml is the same format as .msg, just the extension is different. Yes, it's just Microsoft breaking compatibility with everything as usual. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ If it's good, they'll stop making it. -- Herblock's Law Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 8:57:24, Gerard wrote: So is there an EML equivalent extension not on the ban list that you know of? Proper extension for e-mail messages is actually .MSG - .EML is Microsoft's invention. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Anticipated events never live up to expectations. -- Levy's Second Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)
SGVsbG8gdHJhY2VyLA0KDQoyNS4gbWFyZWMgMjAwMiwgMTc6MzE6MzAsIHlvdSB3cm90ZToNCg0K Pj4gV2UgYWxyZWFkeSBjb25jbHVkZWQgdGhhdCBpdCB3YXMgc2VydmVyIHRyb3VibGUuLi4NCg0K dD4gbWVhbmluZyBub2JvZHkgaGFzIHRvIGZpeCBpdD8/DQoNClRoZSBzZXJ2ZXIgdW5kZXJzdGFu ZHMgdGhlIEFTQ0lJIDI1NSBhcyBhIHNwZWNpYWwgY29kZS4gVGhlIG9ubHkgdGhpbmcNCnRvIG1h a2UgaXQgd29yayBhcyBpdCBzaG91bGQsIHdvdWxkIHByb2JhYmx5IGJlIHRvIHJlcGxhY2UgdGhl IHNlcnZlcg0Kc29mdHdhcmUuDQoNCnQ+IEkgZG9ub3QgYmVsaWV2ZSBpdHMgYSBzZXJ2ZXIgcHJv YmxlbS4uLg0KDQpJZiBpdCBpc24ndCBzZXJ2ZXIgcHJvYmxlbSwgdGhlbiBwbGVhc2UsIGdpdmUg YmV0dGVyIGV4cGxhbmF0aW9uLiBUaGUNCnNhbWUgdGhpbmcgaGFwcGVucyB0byBNZWxpc3NhIGlu IGJvdGggVGhlIEJhdCEgYW5kIEJlY2t5ISwgYnV0IGl0DQpkb2Vzbid0IGhhcHBlbiB0byB1cy4N Cg0KdD4gaWYgaXQgd2FzIGl0IGVpdGhlciB3b3VsZCBoYXZlIGJlZW4gbm90aWNlZCBiZWZvcmUg b3IgcHJvZ3JhbW1lcnMga25vdw0KdD4gaG93IHRvIGdldCBhcm91bmQgdGhlIHByb2JsZW0uLg0K DQpUaGUgd2F5IGFyb3VuZCB0aGUgcHJvYmxlbSBpcyB0byB1c2UgUXVvdGVkIFByaW50YWJsZSBl bmNvZGluZywgYnV0DQpzb21lIHNlcnZlcnMgd2lsbCBjb252ZXJ0IGl0IGJhY2sgdG8gOGJpdC4N Cg0KdD4gQW55d2F5IHdobyBtaW5kcyBhcyB1c2VyIGFzIHRoZSBlbWFpbCBwcm9ncmFtIGRpZG50 IGRvIGl0IGJlZm9yZSAgYW5kDQp0PiBub3cgaXQgZG9lcyBkbyBpdCB3cm9uZywgaXQgc2hvdWxk IGJlIHBvc3NpYmxlIHRvIGZpeCBpdC4uLg0KDQpJdCdzIG5vdCBUaGUgQmF0J3MgZmF1bHQuIFRo ZSBCYXQgY2FuJ3QgbWFnaWNhbGx5IGdldCB0aGUgbWlzc2luZw0KY2hhcmFjdGVycyAod2hpY2gg aXQgZG9lc24ndCBldmVuIGtub3cgdGhhdCB0aGV5IGFyZSBtaXNzaW5nKSBmcm9tDQp0aGluIGFp ci4NCg0KdD4gQWxzbyBJIHdvdWxkbnQgbWluZCBoZWFyaW5nIGZyb20gdGhlIHByb2dyYW1tZXJz IHdoYXQgdGhleSBzYXkgdGhlDQp0PiByZWFzb24gaXMuLi4gVGhleSBrbm93IHdoYXQgdGhleSBj aGFuZ2VkLCBhbGwgd2UgY2FuIGRvIGlzIGd1ZXNzIGFuZA0KdD4gZXNzZW50aWFsbHkgbm90IHVz ZSB0aGUgZmVhdHVyZS4NCg0KVGhlIHJlYXNvbiBpczoNCg0KIEFTQ0lJIDI1NSBoYXMgc3BlY2lh bCBtZWFuaW5nIGZvciB0aGF0IHNlcnZlci4gSXQgd2lsbCBhZmZlY3QgYWxsDQogcHJvZ3JhbXMs IG5vdCBqdXN0IFRoZSBCYXQuIE1lbGlzc2EgZG9lc24ndCBzZWUgdGhlIGNoYXJhY3RlciBldmVu IGluDQogdGhlIHNvdXJjZSB2aWV3ZXIsIHNvIHRoZXJlIGlzIG5vdGhpbmcgdGhhdCBUaGUgQmF0 J3MgZGV2ZWxvcGVycyBjYW4NCiBkby4NCg0KQlRXOiBNZWxpc3NhLCB3aGF0IGFib3V0IHRoaXMg bWVzc2FnZSwgSSBzZW50IGl0IGFzIGJhc2U2NCwgbWF5YmUgaXQNCndvbid0IGdldCBhdXRvY29u dmVydGVkIGJhY2sgdG8gOGJpdC4gPj7//jw8DQoNCi0tIA0KSmVybmVqIFNpbW9uY2ljLCBqZXJu ZWouc2ltb25jaWNAZ3Vlc3QuYXJuZXMuc2kNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cyLmFybmVzLnNpL35zb3Bqc2lt by8NCklDUTogMjYyNjY0NjcNCg0KW1RoZSBCYXQhIHYxLjYwIG9uIFdpbmRvd3MgOTggNC4xMC4y MjIyLiBBIF0NCg0KSW4gYSBoaWVyYXJjaGljYWwgc3lzdGVtLCB0aGUgcmF0ZSBvZiBwYXkgZm9y IGEgZ2l2ZW4gdGFzayBpbmNyZWFzZXMNCmluIGludmVyc2UgcmF0aW8gdG8gdGhlIHVucGxlYXNh bnRuZXNzIGFuZCBkaWZmaWN1bHR5IG9mIHRoZSB0YXNrLg0KICAgICAgIC0tIEZpcnN0IExhdyBv ZiBTb2Npby1FY29ub21pY3M= Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
