Re[2]: Unusual spam
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 12:18:07 AM, we have reason to believe that Joseph N. wrote: JN Techniques like you described are common devices intended to fool spam JN tools that analyze text content in message bodies. Usually, though, JN words like you described are followed by the real message or links. JN It's possible that the mail you received had web bugs you couldn't JN see, or other links. Excuse me if this is old news, but a technique I see a lot of is white text in the HTML part with the links and whatever; most people (I guess) use a white background and don't see it. I came across it expereimenting with a coloured background (ugh!) -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, November 10, 2003, 5:01:14 PM, we have reason to believe that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tko Second, is there any other Bayesian spam plugin for TB? Are any planned? tko What about non-Bayesian spam plugins? tko I dropped K9 in favor of BayesIt (because I was going to use IMAP), but have tko learned I did so prematurely. I like the idea of an integrated plugin, but tko BayesIt is not ready for my use (blank dialogs, freezing, bugs). There is another bayesian plug-in: (from message id [EMAIL PROTECTED]) === a new version from my open source plugin is ready and hopefully working. Just download the packed file and follow the instructions from readme.txt (YOU HAVE TO SCAN SOME MAILS FIRST TO GET IT WORKING! THE INCLUDED DATABASE HAS NO NON SPAM (HAM) INFORMATIONS!!!). http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download/bayesfilter.zip === It's working here OK. Incidentally, I've had no problems with Bayesit - have you tried the latest version (0.4gm)? -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 3:15:27 PM, we have reason to believe that Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC I downloaded the program and installed it in TB, but how do I make it SC scan anything? Select some spam and use Specials, Mark as Junk; select some non-spam, and use Specials, Mark as not Junk. I used around 50 of each. The non-spam came from a variety of folders to makse sure of a reasonable spread. Refine activity via Options, Preferences, AntiSpam. The Average/Maximal/Minimal stuff only applies if you have more than one spam plug-in. I have my Move to Junk score set at 20, but that's not based on scientific evaluation. It just ended up there and works fine. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 6:36:08 PM, we have reason to believe that John Phillips wrote: JP Where should the Junk folder be placed? JP Or should it be installed automatically? (Because I do not have it!) JP I presume by marking mail as Junk, it is automatically placed in JP that folder? Under Options, Preferences, Anti-Spam, there's an option to use the Common Junk Folder; levaing it unchecked creates a Junk folder in each account in which spam is detected (I think - I've only ever had it set checked). The folder is created the first time the plug-in tries to put a message in it. You'll see that you can choose whether to put items identified as spam in the junk folder, in which case they're automatically moved, delete them (self-explanatory) or do nothing. Hope this makes sense. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 7:51:32 PM, we have reason to believe that John Phillips wrote: JP BTW would a white list also be a helpful thing? That's a subject of much debate; if you're able to keep it up-to-date, I'd say yes. I don't use one myself: I'm not disciplined or organised enough to ensure it's always up-to-date, and I'd rather have a bit more spam than worry about false positives. I should say that neither BayesIt nor the newer Bayesian plug-in have ever given me false positives, and I get maybe 10 spams a week that they don't pick up straight away (as opposed to around 450 a week that they do pick up). The ones that get away are where the spammer's tried an new style/format: don't forget that a Bayesian filter needs examples to work from. If someone comes up with something completely new, it won't be recongised, and you have to tell the filter what it is. JP Is there such a plug in? I don't believe so, although ISTR some discussion about one in the future -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Oddity - replying sens empty message
Hi Batpersons, In recent days, I've had messages telling me that my replies have come through like this: Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:24:38 +0100 From: Nick Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Syncing Questions (I'm a testing Ecco for the 1st time) [This message is not in displayable format] That is, there's no body. The problem has occurred with a Yahoo Group mailing list. Has anyone come across this? The problem might be with Yahoo, or with the receiving mail client (haven't investigated that yet), but I wondered whether there might be anything in TB! that anyone knew of. FWIW, I've been using the Windows editor (proportional fonts), and I'd never come across this in Bat versions eralier than 2. Any help appreciated; thanks in advance -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.18 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Oddity - replying sens empty message
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, September 29, 2003, 11:35:49 AM, we have reason to believe that Marck D Pearlstone wrote: NG That is, there's no body. The problem has occurred with a Yahoo NG Group mailing list. Has anyone come across this? The problem NG might be with Yahoo, or with the receiving mail client MDP (It's the latter). The recipient can't decode the Base64 encoding. MDP Maybe because a routing server is removing the Encoding header from MDP the message on the way (either from you to Yahoo or from Yahoo to MDP the recipient). Thanks for that - makes a lot of sense NG (haven't investigated that yet), but I wondered whether there NG might be anything in TB! that anyone knew of. MDP Not TB's fault but you can compensate for it. Switch from base 64 to MDP Quoted printable encoding. Will do - and thanks again Nick -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.18 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem importing 'lost' messages
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Sunday, August 31, 2003, 12:07:38 PM, we have reason to believe that Peter Meyns wrote: PM Too bad. I just tried it here and it is indeed a way to move messages. PM This makes me suspect that your backup files may be somehow corrupted... I think you're right; however, when I open them in a text editor, the contents are clearly visible, with headers. More though needed Thanks -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem importing 'lost' messages
Any help appreciated I re-ran filters on my Inbox (has just imprted some messages from another mail client) and the filter deleted the lot (more work required, I think!) Anyway, I still have intact .tbb and .tbi files in the relevant directory. I copied thema away and tried to reimport, and I get 0 messages imported. Rebuilding (via CTRL, ALT, SHIFT, L) doesn't have any effect either. Any suggestions (other than opening the .tbb file in a text processor and manually reconstructing)? Thanks all. Incidentally, although I'm using a beta, I'm starting on the assumption that this is my screw-up rather than a beta problem; that's why I'm posting to the main list rather than the beta list. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem importing 'lost' messages
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Sunday, August 31, 2003, 2:56:40 PM, we have reason to believe that Roelof Otten wrote: RO Delete the tbi file. That's the index file. Until you compress the RO folder, the messages are only marked as deleted. That marking is done RO in the .tbi file. RO Another option is to select your folder and go via the menu to: RO folder - browse deleted messages RO Here you can see the deleted messages and undelete them. OK, problem solved via a combination of this and Pixie's orginal idea. I copied the .tbb away from my Inbox, created a new folder, copied the .tbb into the directory for that folder and then did a Browse for deleted messages. I now seem to have all of them back. Big thankyou's to all of you for your help. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bounce Filter ?
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Friday, January 24, 2003, 3:38:27 AM, we have reason to believe that ~John wrote: ~ Is it possible to Bounce E-Mail in TheBat! kind of like the way ~ MailWasher does ? There's some fairly recent discussion about this in the archives. IIRC, the question came up twice in a short period in November/December, and generated a lot of discussion, both on the principle and the technicalities. If you search the archives for bounce, you should find it. -- Best regards, Nick @mantech.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Bounce Mail with theBat! ?
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Friday, January 24, 2003, 2:58:32 PM, we have reason to believe that ~John wrote: ~ I simply want to know if it is possible to fake a bounced e-mail from ~ theBat! ? Why not create an autoreply template which shows sender as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and a filter to use it against any offending senders? As others have noted, it's not a proper bounce, but maybe it's enough for what you want. -- Best regards, Nick @mantech.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re address of my points regarding improvements for the Bat
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Saturday, January 18, 2003, 7:15:00 PM, we have reason to believe that Robert Silver wrote: RS I doubt anyone will complaint if the bat introduced the following RS improvements: RS Web page viewing Option RS Web Page Editing option RS NNTP USENET News Reader Option People have already complained, so I imagine it's safe to assume they will carry on complaining. If the developers do all this, they'll just be moving closer to Outlook Express. Since OE is free and the Bat isn't, I'd say that was a worse position to be in. Then there's the fact that enhanced HTML functionality will open The Bat to many of the same security weakness as OE, and you have a debatable strategy IMO -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: FW: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to editHTMLdocuments or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Friday, January 17, 2003, 5:48:29 PM, we have reason to believe that Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Fact is, the computer was invented by Conrad Zuse (Google has more TF info on this German inventor), and HTML was invented by James Bernhard TF Lee at CERN in Switzerland. Tim Berners Lee, I think. Hadn't known about Zuse - interesting. Anyway, both Sperry (Univac) in the US and Lyons in the UK predated IBM, as maybe did others. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Rebooted My Computer
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 1:56:39 AM, we have reason to believe that Chris Montgomery wrote: CM I just typed a short message to my father and attached two Excel (.xls) CM files to it. When I clicked on the Send the letter icon, my computer CM rebooted. After it restarted, I sent a test message to myself with the CM two attached files and then successfully sent the message with files to CM my father. CM Anyone else seen behavior like that? It was weird, like pressing the CM reset button on the front of my computer. I've seen something like it, but not with TB. It was a while ago, and IIRC it was some kind of dial-up problem. Is it possible that the problem arises when TB connects (however you do that in your case) to the network to send the message. That might indicate a problem in the network/modem/usb/serial drivers. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing Bat window - Help ?
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, July 8, 2002, 8:30:28 PM, we have reason to believe that Thomas M. Corrigan wrote: TMC Hi. I've been using The Bat for several months now (registered and all). TMC Today the main window seems to have disapeared, and I can't get it back. TMC (this plea for help is from PMMail) TMC Restore from the toolbar icon shows nothing. No move option available. TMC I've closed and re-opened it many times. Never shows up on my desktop TMC anymore, but it's icon is there in the toolbar. It sounds like it's moved off the desktop somehow. Try move and using the keyboard arrow keys to see if you can shift it back -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailto: and .VCF associations destroyed
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 8:37:29 PM, we have reason to believe that Jake Bramhall wrote: JB theBat version 1.53d seems to have severed the relationship between Outlook JB and the mailto: link in browsers as well as the .VCF file association. They JB are not pointing to theBat, but they are causing erratic behavior. Where JB can I reassociate the mailto: and .VCF with Outlook? The mailto: association should come back if you select the option in Outlook to make it your default email program. You can also do this via IE. If that doesn't bring back the .vcf association, you can use the File Types dialog in Windows to point .vcf at Outlook. How it's done depends on your windows version. Or you can reinstall OL (or in OL2K or later use Detect and Repair -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/10 on Windows NT Build 2600 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat and XP?
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Saturday, October 27, 2001, 3:31:48 AM, we have reason to believe that Richard Lane wrote: RL Just a quicky. I've just bought WindowsXP (Home Edition), although I haven't RL installed it yet. Anyone else here running XP? is the Bat OK? I sure hope RL so. RL TIA. Yes (I'm running XP) Yes (The Bat's OK) Just do it g -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows NT Build 2600 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: message.att?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, September 12, 2001, 8:51:46 PM, we have reason to believe that Vincent - D. Ertner wrote: VDE Hi Co-Batties, VDE I guess it has been asked already, but I didn't find a hint: VDE What does message.att contain, when I receive a message from VDE an OUtlook-User? VDE And even more important: What can I tell the Outlook-User VDE how to disable this feature? VDE Cheers, VDE Vince Can't remember all the details, but it's an artefact of the way OL formats messages. There's a freeware program called Fentun (search google for fentun which deals very neatly with the problem. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/6 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBO5/gAEqL65Xj7aHMEQIQ/QCg80M+f7Abuw7TOLNbKlUC4xFwIdQAmgNV yGuGkifosSto7SsJsiq5hlJV =YIDZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). Thanks in advance - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtR8Z0qL65Xj7aHMEQLJAACghEuxr+VIbraOJjUO2MJQ9FO/fzgAn2mE +qq6W1cq7ewhbLb3plSU/CON =pQh5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 4:58:24 PM, we have reason to believe that Dierk Haasis wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). DH RTF-sent messages (or HTML, where it is not required)? That was it! Thanks a lot - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtTtfkqL65Xj7aHMEQKeEQCeLxSVSfcXvF+aAayllbVZSw3zJxAAoIvi iJILlq6y6SC8MI0v7EwJOghN =sZJK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Unreadable attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 5:04:59 PM, we have reason to believe that Marek Mikus wrote: I've recently started to get a high proportion of messages with an attachment always named message.att, IIRC, this is an Outlook-generated thing. Can someone please remind me how it's caused so that I can suggest my Outlook correspondents cahnge their setup (or, of course, their mail clients). MM MS Exchange uses own encoding type named MS-TNEF. If is possible to MM change it to Base64, then will be problem solved. MM If not, You can use program named FENTUN, which is able to decode them. MM You can try to download it from this location: MM ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/fentun.zip Thanks for the pointer to Fentun - works a treat. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOtTtokqL65Xj7aHMEQIOywCgufBFny3oiLKBsgGBmbVuzKYLUMYAn1o8 6wGcenUkO8ByckBEkeMw1CuZ =W3Ju -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: proper english or not?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, February 28, 2001, 8:09:15 PM, we have reason to believe that Fred Weissman wrote: FW "Organization" with a "z" is -American- English, while "organisation" with FW a "s" is the Queen's English - English as spoken (spelled) in the United FW Kingdom. "z" is for words of Greek origin, "s" for words of Latin origin - or the other way round perhaps - the important thing IMHO is that one be consistent, or conziztent, but not consiztent nor conzistent. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOqAyj0qL65Xj7aHMEQLLWwCeJ0ciDkegCYtAeBpqSPZKgZsRUB0Anigp Qm3skls1U7uZyfiup6HaXVV6 =xHi0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Using The Bat 1.49 with proxy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, February 19, 2001, 9:54:44 AM, we have reason to believe that Olga Matskovsky wrote: OM Thank you Serge! OM It is http proxy. OM When I use internet (open microsoft internet explorer) OM I get "authentication" window to insert name and OM password of proxy user. OM In The Bat I didn't found any place to insert this OM name and password. OM Therefore, The Bat can't connect to internet (to my OM email server). OM Thank you! What do your colleagues do for their email? They presumably must have had to change their client set-up when the proxy was installed; if you can find out what changes they made, we could help to replicate them in TB. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOpELikqL65Xj7aHMEQKycACfbeKbdKN+AikmQ4Ih5qUJdpeT6AoAmgNm DyCpegVs6qm+XRR972oYrSNH =ci31 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP 7x plug-in possible disappointment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, For info Phil Zimmerman's "resignation letter" from NAI (posted in alt.pgp.security and by the ever-reliable Mr Andriash on the PGP-basics list) suggests that NAI might not be releasing the source code (or only some of it) for PGP 7x. Those who are waiting for a plug-in might want to note this and make their dispositions accordingly (i.e. not hold their breath :-) ) - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOpFxdkqL65Xj7aHMEQIxjQCg5B/hVjHn8qVWJ5uRly4NaMCZHYkAoJqk Ka4xhetMyur+oxTbI6urWl7A =7YlG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP 7x plug-in possible disappointment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, February 19, 2001, 7:42:50 PM, we have reason to believe that Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: NG Those who are waiting for a plug-in might want to note this and NG make their dispositions accordingly (i.e. not hold their breath NG :-) ) MDP There are alternative avenues being pursued as we speak (write?). Spiffing! Thanks - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOpGu0EqL65Xj7aHMEQL8CQCdFfUNT7w6jI1RkeMsvV6H/R6igl0An0qR KNn28LypjSbGE1TNrti7wBxg =pIQG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Importing Outlook Contacts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Friday, February 16, 2001, 9:13:05 AM, we have reason to believe that Thomas wrote: T Wow. Someone told me the MS products are for people who know not much T about computers. I have never used OL or OE, but what you say there T sounds so complicated that I'd rather use The Bat!. Thanks for scaring T me off of MS. To be scrupulously fair to MS, if you're only going to use either OL or OE for your email, you're not going to encounter this kind of complexity. Funnily enough, the people who have the problem are the semi-power-users - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOo0EnkqL65Xj7aHMEQKwagCfYW4ljht5nXskhL0bDvBSmjMJiGMAoKCH RrtL0OGBtZo1sREpRS9wOLdq =DOVo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Export from hotmail??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Thursday, February 15, 2001, 2:23:25 AM, we have reason to believe that Johan Svahn wrote: JS A friend of mine has lots of emails stored in a Hotmail account? She JS wants to save those emails somewhere else (the account id getting full) than in the hotmail-account. JS How can this be done? Hotmail seems to be lacking the export feature JS yahoo has. If she has Outlook Express v5 or above, she can set it up to download her Hotmail, then she could delete it from the server and leave it in OE or export it from there. Or she could forward the Hotmail to another email address (hers or a friends) and export/save it from there - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOowQikqL65Xj7aHMEQIgGQCfcOHgKQmBbcPV58JMK2IUxevxwsYAoPzA CBn6YY1E35nKQD8NKnxaSviQ =SnJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Export from hotmail??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Thursday, February 15, 2001, 3:34:18 AM, we have reason to believe that Johan Svahn wrote: JS A friend of mine has lots of emails stored in a Hotmail account? She JS wants to save those emails somewhere else (the account id getting full) than in the hotmail-account. JS How can this be done? Hotmail seems to be lacking the export feature JS yahoo has. NG If she has Outlook Express v5 or above, she can set it up to download NG her Hotmail, then she could delete it from the server and leave it in NG OE or export it from there. JS Ys, I considered this. But is it possible to export from OE into a JS generic format or a different hotmail account? No, but you *can* import to The Bat!, and then export in a variety of formats. NG Or she could forward the Hotmail to another email address (hers or a NG friends) and export/save it from there JS But there are hundreds of emails. Forwarding one by one takes ages. True, but you could combine the 2 options: download the messages to OE, then select them all and forward them - they'll get forwarded as a single message with all the forward messages attached. In actual fact, you probably be better forwarding in groups up to about 50 messages if you did this. - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOowjk0qL65Xj7aHMEQKkcgCg9xzqrGXcXNx6jxrlCiywvydHRY8An2LT IqF94hSI0s3lEpAB0hRbTlh9 =oCuz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Cannot access RIT Labs Web site
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, February 13, 2001, 7:53:43 AM, we have reason to believe that Thomas wrote: T I would have thought so, but I hit Relaod and crtl-Reload in both IE T and NS. How else can you force the browser to not load a cached copy? Maybe the cache is at your ISP? - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOopGV0qL65Xj7aHMEQL2BQCfTOwF0o5eoHfGzn3pxva/2BvdLjUAoNid Gexx4hz9gfr4AYQEYkNSk41Z =61Uu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: TB! v1.49 - autoreply delete msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, February 05, 2001, 2:44:42 PM, we have reason to believe that Jamie Dainton wrote: JD I use one similar for USENET. OT for a second, surely there must be a JD better newsreader than Agent 1.82 32bit. I've been using it for a JD while and miss all the features that are in e-mail programs. Does JD anyone know of anything better? The obvious alternative is Gravity (now at v2.3). It has good features and a reasonable look (matter of taste, I know). 2 big disadvantages (for an Agent user): You can't create folders in which to organise stuff you want to keep You can't set up multiple instances for multiple servers the way you can in Agent. This means you can only connect to one server at a time. There's a trial at www.microplanet.com - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOn7dM0qL65Xj7aHMEQKVFgCgjB7OuR7rXYlFanU3gR98fzVZRQoAoK0P IAes3HkLagKuWLats0EJMaV4 =/llR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: I just want the filters to work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Batpersons, On or about, Monday, January 29, 2001, 7:19:58 PM, we have reason to believe that Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: PJFS I checked the filter and I have it set for: sender yes, recipient yes, PJFS kludges yes, and any where That's the problem: you should only have one set (sender, or recipient, or kludges). As you have it, the filter means ALL have to be met for it to work Hope this helps - -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49b on Windows 98 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOnXybUqL65Xj7aHMEQIM2QCdEhYuRcLOYhwP+Xt04IKYnpNZVrQAmgIl 3h6TrnPUGG+/i03kvOMkBFJ3 =GALU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: message preview
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Thursday, January 18, 2001, 10:23:50 PM, you wrote: MDP FYI - the bad wrapping above is caused by allowing PGP to reformat the MDP message when signing. For the best results, turn off wrapping in the MDP PGP preferences when using PGP with TB. Noted and done - thanks - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmgMX0qL65Xj7aHMEQKjBACdEYxZccuZ4gbwlX3z2fxl8mIhBRMAoL5p h75uW2VRT/h3LXcaluEQU1fS =9lwl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: message preview
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, Thursday, January 18, 2001, 5:51:37 PM, you wrote: DG Well, it was worth a try :) I even downloaded installed 1.49, and still the DG preview pane (pain?) top border is unmovable. BTW, if this means anything at DG all -- when I try to drag the border down (making the preview section smaller) DG the black horizontal "drag" line moves, but upon releasing the mouse button DG there is no change in the window size. When dragging up (making the preview DG window larger), there is not even a black "drag" line. It sounds to me like a .dll problem. I imagine that Delphi (in which TB is written) uses standard Windows libraries for stuff like window resizing. Have you had this problem in any other software? Recently installed new s/w or h/w? Made any other system changes? - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmcx80qL65Xj7aHMEQLFiACfQYCuyRZ4zxuKYf66CJw2hVffgOMAoLMr jLTZhevYtHQ1YZwxHc02n4Gv =sCE3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[5]: message preview
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, Thursday, January 18, 2001, 6:22:58 PM, you wrote: DG No hardware changes, unless you count moving to a different desk :) Ah! - Well there you have it; if you'd only told us in the first place :) DG Software: Installed Opera 5.02 over 5.01. Installed TB! 1.49 over 1.48f DG (although this was after the problem was already happening.) DG No resizing problems in any other apps, including Outlook and FreeAgent, both DG with similar "pane" layouts. The only thing I can suggest is uninstalling TB and reinstalling. Other than that, no ideas. Sorry. - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmdHzUqL65Xj7aHMEQJ9MgCgo33tSzd96p2pjLEt53qdNzDMd24AoJYW LOmZtIkt7AMY++ktyJHss+oc =UuR1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Creating HTML Message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Monbebe, Friday, January 05, 2001, 6:34:22 AM, you wrote: MA I'm searching 2 sort of tools to create complex HTML messages. MA - First a software to do it, encode images, adding text message MA and so that can link attachment multipart/related inline and not MA from an HTTP server. MA - a CGI software or url that can do this remotely. For example, you MA specify the text message the url of your HTML page, the From, To, MA Subject and other needed fields, and the message is sent MA automatically to the receiver, encoded in the same condition as MA specified before. I'm afraid I can't tell you what can do this, but I *can* tell you that The Bat! won't. It's a plain text emailer with some basic HTL reading and display features (deliberately basic, I should add) - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOlWRKEqL65Xj7aHMEQLGZwCg2eN3qGqtSqv7l4M/ML4DtMZQLYoAn2n+ gDzrRkTUZCz2qavhA/jkJ2io =b+8G -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Automatically add ppl you reply to in address book
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Hermes, Wednesday, January 03, 2001, 3:15:24 PM, you wrote: H I am new to the list, and haven't found an H answer in the FAQ, but was H wandering how to do this .. H Outlook has such a feature, and has the bat H got it or is it possible H to make such a thing with templates or so ? Message, Specials, Add Sender/Recipient to address book. Or In the reply you're creating, click the little blue arrow at the far right of the To: line (add to address book). Or There's probably a macro, but I don't really get those yet. HTH - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOlNHgUqL65Xj7aHMEQJbZgCgx+7Al61Gsk6yuNZQ6GK7tuxBvIYAn1jz fEJNME7x/R/41t0lEgEES53+ =m4/H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Difference between
Hello syv, Wednesday, December 27, 2000, 4:50:24 AM, you wrote: s What's the difference between compress and s purge/compress. s What gets purged? Compress recovers space from messages you've already deleted; purge deletes messages according to setting sin folder and account properties. Purge/compress does both. -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Reply message question
Hello Beat, Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 3:39:10 PM, you wrote: Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here would know about your wickedness! BS :-)) What a phony guy... ;-) Call it cultural sensitivity :-) -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply message question
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, December 20, 2000, 3:08:06 PM, you wrote: DM I am not sure this is the correct forum but DM I can't figure out when I DM hit reply how to put my reply at the top of DM the message and the DM message I received at the bottom. Currently DM my message appears at the DM bottom. I have looked at the FAQ and I DM think my question is too DM elementary to be there and I looked in the DM help and I think it might DM have to do with the reply template, but I DM couldn't see where I edit or DM view all these macros. thanks. If you look at the reply template, it says: %QUOTES %CURSOR and so it quotes the message first, then places the cursor after the quote. You could simply reverse these 2 and have your comments come before the cursor BUT I believe this is one of those areas in which opinions are divided and strong. Others on the list have more knowledge and stronger views than me, but in summary, some people don't like the comment first. My preferred method (about which I'm not a zealot, nor indeed especially scrupulous in practice) is to place my comments at the end of short messages, and to intersperse comments on individual points in longer messages thus: Point A Comment on A Point B Comment on B and so on. Of course (he said mischievously), you could reverse the quote and comment in non-Bat list messages (by using folder templates), but leave it as it is for messages to the Bat lists. That way, no-one here would know about your wickedness! -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: the sent folder
Hello Fusiontunes, Monday, December 18, 2000, 2:27:13 PM, you wrote: F Hello, F How does one send an e-mail "without" F having a copy F of it sent to your "sent" folder..?? Can F I just F delete the sent folder..?? F Fusiontunes, F The Fusion Violinist How about a filter on outgoing mail that deletes the message? -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: (No Subject)
Hello Jan, Monday, December 18, 2000, 1:06:30 PM, you wrote: Allie [...] I have personally not Allie disabled TB!'s warning messages Allie except for those file types Allie which I know are safe. I'd rather Allie deal with Allie the pop-up [...] JR Where/what are these pop up warning msgs? JR Thanks. The one that appears when you double-click an attached file, warning of viruses and offering to save the file to disk instead of opening it. Ypu can disable it for any file extension you choose by fiddling with the registry -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Multiple e mails
Hello Edward, Monday, December 11, 2000, 6:20:20 AM, you wrote: ET All very misleading... when the ET discussion list that supports the ET software ET opposes the basic premise on what ET the software is supposed to be ET doing. That's a little unfair, I think. The general content of replies to your questions has been "Here are ways to do what you want (or reasons you can't) and BTW don't send spam 'cos it's not nice" None of that's a dig against business-to-customer communications, which, in my limited experience, The Bat! handles extremely well. It's true that some list members of a more, shall we say, traditionalist disposition, might come over as a bit curmudgeonly, but don't mistake that for ranting zealotry and *certainly* don't let it mask the qualities of the product. -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder-specific privacy settings?
Hello Kari, Thursday, December 07, 2000, 6:54:58 PM, you wrote: KJ D'oh! I'm too fast for my keyboard... ;-) I know of an overclocking KJ tool for the PS/2 bus for the mouse but is there a. o/c'ing tool KJ for the PS/2 keyboard also? ...muahaha... Maybe you could underclock yourself. Anyway, I *like* the idea of singing when completed -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Folder-specific privacy settings?
Good people (and knowledgeable too, I trow) Abject apologies if this is in the oh-no-not-that-old-question-again-why-don't-they-rtfm-or-at-least-the-FAQ-and-help-file category, but: Is there a way to make privacy setting folder-specific. For example, most of the business email I send I want to PGP sign, so I have the "Sign when completed" option checked. But I don't want to sign most of what I send to mailing lists (this one, for one), so each time I have to remember to uncheck "Sign when completed". So (because this is obviously *far* too much effort in today's all-go society), I'd like to be able set this and other privacy options differently for different folders (or at least for the templates. All answers gratefully received, thanks -- Regards Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder-specific privacy settings?
Hello Kari, Wednesday, December 06, 2000, 8:33:31 PM, you wrote: KJ This way you could disable "Sing when completed" by default. "Sing when completed"? I like the sound of that (ouch!) Oh - and thanks -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Images embeded in HTML doesn't display.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ratty, Thursday, November 23, 2000, 9:28:57 PM, you wrote: RL Hello, RL I have been having this problem and regardless of how much hair I pull RL out, I cannot get to the bottom of it: RL In HTML-based emails that have embeded images, the images don't RL display. Instead I see an "exclamation picture". RL I am running the latest version, and I have re-installed... HOWEVER, I RL have since re-imported all of the old emails... RL Thanks, RL David I might get this all wrong (I'm new to The Bat! and this is my first attempt to tell someone else what's going on, but I believe this is by design. Most HTML mail doesn't actualy embed the image in the mail, but instead embeds an instruction to go to the web and fetch the image when the mail is opened (or previewed). The Bat! deliberately doesn't honour embedded instructions (you could call them programs without being too wrong) like this, because this is the vehicle used by email viruses and worms to ask your system to do things that (a) tou don't know about and (b) you might not want done if you did. If I've got this wrong, someone please tell me (but I hope I haven't) - -- Best regards, Nick Gordon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOh48l0qL65Xj7aHMEQKevACgv6DOXyqcjqtEs8UCk8/5S4J2Rd4An2vo DUibB1+8IvXo+iNxIOELK5Zm =/ggy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org