Re: [TBUDL] Subject line says (see body)
Hello St, Thursday, January 24, 2013, 1:51:42 AM, you wrote: Often ISP's anti-spam filters, both outgoing and incoming, can be a little overzealous IME. The same can be said of desktop anti-spam software. SMN This is very true - but if an anti-spam filter reject messages based SMN on the fact that the word PayPal is present in subject is a stupid SMN anti-spam-filter. I mean, apparently it's stupid to you and me... but SMN it is also *professionally stupid* - one would think a professional SMN company had a better system running than that? I once worked for a company who's sysad suddenly decided that all emails coming from yahoo.com needed to be sent to trash - which resulted in quite a numer of unhappy customers. He didn't know why the sales people were al that upset about it, because well over 80% of those messages were indeed spam... Don't ever misunderestimate professionals! -- Cheers, Thomas. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Subject line says (see body)
Often ISP's anti-spam filters, both outgoing and incoming, can be a little overzealous IME. The same can be said of desktop anti-spam software. Your messages probably had to pass through three or more such filters. So many pieces of phishing spam claim to be from Paypal, that some false positives are almost inevitable, and I suspect that your message was falsely tagged as spam. This is very true - but if an anti-spam filter reject messages based on the fact that the word PayPal is present in subject is a stupid anti-spam-filter. I mean, apparently it's stupid to you and me... but it is also *professionally stupid* - one would think a professional company had a better system running than that? The only plausible reason why a filter would block such a message Jack is talking about is if one Redirect / Delegate a message that was originally sent from PayPal. If the text is fully intact AND the anti- spam system found it to be suspicious (looks like a phishing attempt) AND the IP the Redirected / Delegated message is now coming from is not in the IP-range PayPal is using to send mail, THEN one could expect a system to look at it with a suspicious mind and to consider it to be a possible phishing attempt. But blocking a message just because PayPal is present in Subject is just stupid. -- St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Subject line says (see body)
Hello St, On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 you wrote: Often ISP's anti-spam filters, both outgoing and incoming, can be a little overzealous IME. The same can be said of desktop anti-spam software. Your messages probably had to pass through three or more such filters. So many pieces of phishing spam claim to be from Paypal, that some false positives are almost inevitable, and I suspect that your message was falsely tagged as spam. SMN This is very true - but if an anti-spam filter reject messages based SMN on the fact that the word PayPal is present in subject is a stupid SMN anti-spam-filter. I mean, apparently it's stupid to you and me... but SMN it is also *professionally stupid* - one would think a professional SMN company had a better system running than that? SMN The only plausible reason why a filter would block such a message SMN Jack is talking about is if one Redirect / Delegate a message that was SMN originally sent from PayPal. If the text is fully intact AND the anti- SMN spam system found it to be suspicious (looks like a phishing attempt) SMN AND the IP the Redirected / Delegated message is now coming from is not SMN in the IP-range PayPal is using to send mail, THEN one could expect a SMN system to look at it with a suspicious mind and to consider it to be a SMN possible phishing attempt. But blocking a message just because PayPal SMN is present in Subject is just stupid. Also it doesn't seem to be the case. After I responded to Geoff's message I sent myself a message with PayPal in the subject line and it went through just fine. Admittedly, the message body consisted simply of a salutation and sig. It may be that a message with PayPal in the subject line AND a fair amount of text in the body *might* trigger a block. More experimentation necessary. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Subject line says (see body)
Hi On Wednesday 23 January 2013 at 7:00:04 PM, in mid:1681765046.20130123130...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: After I responded to Geoff's message I sent myself a message with PayPal in the subject line and it went through just fine. It's probably getting out OK but being blocked (or diverted to a bulk or spam folder) by the recipient's email provider. Some providers make it hard to determine the settings to turn off spam filtering/blocking. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
