Re[3]: Accented characters
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:15:20 -0500, David Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 11:37:47 PM, Havivah Schwartz wrote: HDS For the last few years I've been using a shareware program called HDS LatinKey to type accents: http://www.fanix.com/latinkey/ It's HDS expensive compared to the options others have described, but it HDS provides a significant advantage: ... Based on this recommendation I downloaded and have tried the program. I find it terrific, simple to learn, and much easier to use than any other method for accents that I have seen. It's hard to imagine anyone who uses Western European languages on a U.S. keyboard who wouldn't want to switch after trying it. wow, your review is even more glowing than mine :) It is, however, a bit expensive -- US $19.95. Thanks Havivah. Thanks for the note, David! I hope you continue to enjoy the program! best regards, Havivah _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi, HDS Let me give you an example of how it works: when LK is enabled, HDS typing e1 produces é. If I actually want e1 then I just HDS type e11. IMO in this solution there's a problem with e11, don't you think? Typing e11 gives e1, so you have to type e111 and delete one of 1 (I believe program starts parsing after hitting the space?) But how often do people need e11? :) HDS Of course, you can configure the accent keys to suit your own HDS typing habits. So the above problem practically does not exists. Good configuration solves all! ;) -- pozdrowienia, Marcin Maczka mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi Thomas, TF No System Tools. Maybe the SysAd disabled it? try: [Start] -- Run... -- charmap Enter -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/25) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi, On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:30:10 +0100, Marcin M¹czka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HDS Let me give you an example of how it works: when LK is enabled, HDS typing e1 produces é. If I actually want e1 then I just HDS type e11. IMO in this solution there's a problem with e11, don't you think? Typing e11 gives e1, so you have to type e111 and delete one of 1 Well, you don't actually have to delete anything. The program takes care of that for you. The way LatinKey works is this: if you type a letter and then you type a key to which you have assigned an accent, the computer assumes you want the letter with the accent over it. If you *don't* -- that is, if you actually want the letter and then the accent key's normal character, then you just press the accent key a second time. The accented letter will disappear automatically, and will be replaced by the unaccented letter and the accent key's normal character. It's awkward to explain, but it's really simple in practice. LatinKey has a demo available -- a short one, as I recall, but hey, you can still try it out for free. (I believe program starts parsing after hitting the space?) No, the program doesn't wait for the space (you need accents in the middle of words, so waiting for a space wouldn't be practical) But how often do people need e11? :) That's the point. As I said in my earlier email, it seems like a backward way to think about typing, but it works precisely because it takes advantage of the likelihood/unlikelihood of specific key combinations. The only key combination that becomes a regular issue for me is when I want an exclamation mark: typing e! is interpreted the same as typing e1 ... which means that if I want to produce e! I actually end up typing e!!. But I don't use exclamation points that often. And when I'm typing French, I sometimes follow the French practice of putting a space before the ! -- that eliminates the LK problem altogether. In any case, accent keys are user-configurable, so if the ! issue really bothered me, I could just remove the accent from the 1 key. All of these accent programs and options are compromises: Allchars and switching to the US-Int'l keyboard require hotkeys to be pressed for each accent. I'm a touch-typist; for me, having to hold down keys or hit hotkeys for each accent gets tiresome very quickly. The advantage of LK is that each accent requires just one extra keystroke... and just one more keystroke in the rare event that I don't really want the accent. And in the case of Allchars (and similar programs) you actually select the accent *before* the letter it goes over, which is an unnatural order. When you write accents, don't you (usually) write the letter first? On the other hand, unlike Allchars et al, LatinKey doesn't give access to the *whole* character set. LK's designed just for Latin-based languages, so I'm sure it wouldn't suit the needs of a lot of people on TBUDL. I think Fanix Software offers another program to allow access to the whole character set, but I haven't tried it out -- I have no need for it. In any case, I've never seen another accent program like LK, and I really like it, so I thought I would mention it. HDS Of course, you can configure the accent keys to suit your own HDS typing habits. So the above problem practically does not exists. Good configuration solves all! ;) :) Havivah _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Accented characters
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 18:28:32, you wrote: DAC In Word you mean? Sure but also in TB! However... I usually use the good old ASCII code... -- Best regards, Anne-Sophie -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi Carsten, On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:42:30 +0100GMT (09/01/2002, 20:42 +0800GMT), Carsten Thönges wrote: TF No System Tools. Maybe the SysAd disabled it? CT try: [Start] -- Run... -- charmap Enter File not found -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Bat Fans, A question has been posed to me off-list be a journalist and I wondered if anyone here knows anything about this issue - I don't. it pertains to use of the UK keyboard. ,- [ Query ] | One convention which appears not to work is that of generating | accented characters using prefix key combinations. This isn't one | that's widely known so in case you're not familiar with it (excuse me | if I'm mentioning something you already know) it's using such as Ctrl | + ' + e to give é, Ctrl + Shift + ^ + a to give â, Ctrl + Shift + ~ + | N to give ñ, Ctrl + Shift + : + u to give ü, and so on. I've done all | these examples here using cut and paste from Word but it would be good | to have them readily available thus from the keyboard. `- - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/25-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8OyFCOeQkq5KdzaARAhqTAKDWjVeLncP1bGSlG4Gfp2Mqco057QCgi3/4 pOrdGRYVLJfffyw7gOIl4+M= =7mab -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 17:41 op dinsdag 8 januari 2002, Marck D Pearlstone: ... such as Ctrl + ' + e to give é, Ctrl + Shift + ^ + a to ... it's a convention i only found to work in MS Office, it is not automagically supported by Windows i guess (read: needs cumbersome work done by programmers :). however, if you set your keyboard locale to for example Dutch (heaven forbid of course :), you can type é by typing 'e (apostrophe-e), â by ^a (shift-6-a), etcetera. this is hard on people (say, programmers :), that type ' a lot, though. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPDsaJ0tQMadp+KslEQI/dwCg2HuA9KwJOqwY88fGD9hE8pfF9bEAn0x1 c/mWjEpo5PuP3Hpxr8WT781p =0iKo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hello Marck, It works perfectly over here, under Win2K with a US Keyboard, layout set as United States-International via the Control Panel. -- Best regards, Anne-Sophie -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hello Mrten, On 8 Jan 2002 at 18:11:16 you wrote (at least in part): M however, if you set your keyboard locale to for example Dutch (heaven M forbid of course :), you can type é by typing 'e (apostrophe-e), â by M ^a (shift-6-a), etcetera. M this is hard on people (say, programmers :), that type ' a lot, M though. My locale is set to German (who'd have expected this *g*) and I'm not using the apostrophe for this but the accents located beside my backspace key. so backtick,e (`,e) gives è, foretick,e (´+e) gives é, and so on, same for capital letters: backtick,Shift+E (`,E) is È etc ... this works up to ^,[aeiou] - âêîôû Maybe this is what the anonymous querying person want's to know? Ciao Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) If you tell a lie, be prepared to tell 10 more to cover it up. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
On 8 Jan 2002, 11:14:28 AM, Anne-Sophie Hombert wrote: It works perfectly over here, under Win2K with a US Keyboard, layout set as United States-International via the Control Panel. In Word you mean? and On 8 Jan 2002, 10:41:36 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: ,- [ Query ] | One convention which appears not to work is that of generating | accented characters using prefix key combinations. This isn't one | that's widely known so in case you're not familiar with it (excuse me | if I'm mentioning something you already know) it's using such as Ctrl | + ' + e to give é, Ctrl + Shift + ^ + a to give â, Ctrl + Shift + ~ + | N to give ñ, Ctrl + Shift + : + u to give ü, and so on. I've done all | these examples here using cut and paste from Word but it would be good | to have them readily available thus from the keyboard. `- I'm not sure it's reasonable to call this a convention (depending on how deferential one is to MS) but rather a feature in certain MS software. In Wordperfect typing ctrl anything followed by a 'e' produces center justification. (in word if you type the e before the ' you also get center justification) by the way besides pounds/dollars, what is different between uk and us keyboard? (i don't know if anyone knows how to type a one-tap or a two-tap trill over here, but people usually look at me like I'm nuts if I try to put a trill into the correct pronunciation of my last name either) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 5:28:32 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: by the way besides pounds/dollars, what is different between uk and us keyboard? --- Here's some (source http://www.vickers.de/keybd.htm for US layout, and my own keyboard for UK layout): Keystroke UK US -- - -- Shift+2 @ Shift+3 £ # Shft+ Top-left key ¬ ~ Some UK keyboards have an extra key on the middle alpha row (ASDF...), next to the carriage return. This give # unshifted and ~ shifted. To the immediate left of this key is the single quotation mark. On the UK keyboard, this gives @ when shifted (so the @ and are transposed). Also, on most UK keyboards, the backslash and pipe symbol are next to the left Shift key and Return is usually two rows high. With all that said, UK keyboard layout isn't completely standard -- so some UK keyboards are not exactly as I describe. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 08, 2002, at 8:41:36 AM PST, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: such as Ctrl + ' + e to give é, Ctrl + Shift + ^ + a to give â, Ctrl + Shift + ~ + N to give ñ, Ctrl + Shift + : + u to give ü, and so on. I've done all these examples here using cut and paste from Word but it would be good to have them readily available thus from the keyboard. Hello Marck, Here's what I use (using the numbers on the number pad)... alt+0233 é alt+0226 â alt+0241 ñ alt+0252 ü Most character maps will show you the combination for each character, so if there's one you don't know, you can just look it up with a character map application. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.10 iD8DBQE8O0l+jVbXUvsE8ukRAiHpAKDIPODomQ0WDF3MXl/BezhOu1cy2QCfVaO4 iyHD2RWPS+XHNoXZdEpsSKs= =vi+X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
On 8 January 2002 at 4:41 pm Marck wrote: Greetings Bat Fans, A question has been posed to me off-list be a journalist and I wondered if anyone here knows anything about this issue - I don't. it pertains to use of the UK keyboard. ,- [ Query ] | One convention which appears not to work is that of generating | accented characters using prefix key combinations. This isn't one | that's widely known so in case you're not familiar with it (excuse me | if I'm mentioning something you already know) it's using such as Ctrl | + ' + e to give é, Ctrl + Shift + ^ + a to give â, Ctrl + Shift + ~ + | N to give ñ, Ctrl + Shift + : + u to give ü, and so on. I've done all | these examples here using cut and paste from Word but it would be good | to have them readily available thus from the keyboard. `- As pointed out elsewhere, this is an Office trick (borrowed from MacOS :) However, there is a very nice free application which allows such multiple key combinations to be used in _any_ Windows application and, for good measure, is completely customisable (something like this would be nice for TB!'s own key combinations ;) http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ Alastair smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, You wrote on 1/8/2002, 5:41 PM: Marck | One convention which appears not to work is that of generating Marck | accented characters using prefix key combinations. These prefixes are also known as 'dead keys' ; I never used it but IIRC it is the job of the keyboard driver, not the application. Not all drivers supports dead-key accents, of course, and it's not at all that popular a feature - I think it's in use in French e.g. - -- Cheers, SyP You have to face the tiger to see it is made of paper. (Zen saying) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 5 iQA/AwUBPDtCQtkgnrcJiuwTEQLjFQCeI3tcujUbZWrTV1K4fx2TtQ2PIIoAoPza bty8U/IFmSxplt5PX1EJFSW1 =NHBF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
On 8 Jan 2002, 1:34:47 PM, Melissa Reese wrote: Here's what I use (using the numbers on the number pad)... alt+0233 é alt+0226 â alt+0241 ñ alt+0252 ü Most character maps will show you the combination for each character, so if there's one you don't know, you can just look it up with a character map application. In smart bat I don't get anything, and here I don't get anything either. I don't have a number pad either. I just tried it on my desktop and it does work there, with the number pad. It does not work by using the fn key and the number pad on my laptop. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/Abacus on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi, Mark. You asked about: MDP ...generating accented characters using prefix key combinations Anne-Sophie responded: ASH It works perfectly... with a US Keyboard, layout set as United ASH States-International Anne-Sophie's advice will work very well for you in any version of Windows since Windows 98 and with any keyboard. I don't remember whether Windows 95 supported it. If you're using Windows 98, go to Control Panel, Keyboard, Language tab, Add..., choose: English (United States) and have your Windows 98 installation CD ready, then press Properties and choose United States-International, check off whether to Switch Languages by Left Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift, and check off Enable indicator on taskbar. To see what any language keyboard does, go here: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/keyboards.asp Try the US-International layout. An emulation will pop up. Note the AltGr key to the right of the spacebar. It's simply the right-Alt key on a U.S. keyboard. When you press it, the keyboard will become accent-capable. The accented characters will work in ANY Windows program, including Word, Notepad, Wordpad and, yes, WordPerfect. To quickly switch from your default UK keyboard to US-Int'l and back, use the shortcut keys. The taskbar will clearly show what keyboard emulation you're using. HTH. regards, Andy [Using The Bat! 1.53t under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 on a made from scratch PIII-500 MHz/384 MB RAM] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 8:42:00 PM, you wrote: However, there is a very nice free application which allows such multiple key combinations to be used in _any_ Windows application and, for good measure, is completely customisable (something like this would be nice for TB!'s own key combinations ;) http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ Thanks very much!! I was looking for an apps like this for such a long time! Now I can write my italian email on The Bat! using my programmer-friendly US keyboard. I hated the dead-keys way. Matteo -- (o_\^\ \\\Matteo Castelli * ICQ:840416///\^\ //\ \^\///http://www.mondopiccolo.net/\\\ \^\ V_/_ tux \^\ Home Page of G. Guareschi (writer of Don Camillo) \^\ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Melissa, On 08 January 2002 at 11:34:47 -0800 (which was 19:34 where I live) Melissa Reese wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points: Here's what I use (using the numbers on the number pad)... alt+0233 é alt+0226 â alt+0241 ñ alt+0252 ü Thanks Melissa - yes, I know about those (although it takes a bit of digital acrobatics to get them out of a laptop keyboard). It was a journalist asking Why can't I.. out of curiosity. I think he knows about the Alt-code versions too - just being finicky about it I guess. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/25-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8O31iOeQkq5KdzaARAjZ/AKCQiGYa/yY0WlVl6LRYI2BgR4vlxgCdE6s/ Mcqlevy+SEjKg5CIcsI3TRs= =3ctH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi Melissa, On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:34:47 -0800GMT (09/01/2002, 03:34 +0800GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR alt+0233 é MR Most character maps will show you the combination for each character, MR so if there's one you don't know, you can just look it up with a MR character map application. I made a list of those by hand. It was tedious work, but it is an important reference table for me. Now you are telling me there is a character map application on my Win98 system? I had one on Win 3.1, but never found it on Win98. Please let me know the name of the application. If it is something you have to download, please let me know the URL. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 08, 2002, at 7:21:16 PM PST, Thomas F wrote: Now you are telling me there is a character map application on my Win98 system? I had one on Win 3.1, but never found it on Win98. Please let me know the name of the application. If it is something you have to download, please let me know the URL. Thanks. Hello Thomas, I remember having one on my Win98SE - called simply Character Map. It was in start/programs/accessories/system tools. I have the same arrangement on my current WinME. If you don't find it already there, you may have to install it by going to add/remove programs/Windows Setup, choosing System Tools/Details, then choosing Character Map - then apply. Or... what I do, is use a little fancier shareware one called Character Map Plus: http://www.less-mess.com/About_Map_plus.htm Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.10 iD8DBQE8O75tjVbXUvsE8ukRAvpIAKDr474RzwRIkOwCWuw+hKqsg2xL8wCeKpmJ L+IkQEqcp6WubvzljcDtk9w= =vefg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Accented characters
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 9:21:16 PM, you wrote: Hi Melissa, On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:34:47 -0800GMT (09/01/2002, 03:34 +0800GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR alt+0233 é MR Most character maps will show you the combination for each character, MR so if there's one you don't know, you can just look it up with a MR character map application. I made a list of those by hand. It was tedious work, but it is an important reference table for me. Now you are telling me there is a character map application on my Win98 system? Thomas, yes. Start|Programs|Accessories|System Tools|Character Map The character set you're looking for, I think, is under System or 'Symbol. I suppose you could add additional sets as well. -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi Melissa, On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:52:41 -0800GMT (09/01/2002, 11:52 +0800GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR I remember having one on my Win98SE - called simply Character Map. MR It was in start/programs/accessories/system tools. I have the same MR arrangement on my current WinME. Not here. MR If you don't find it already there, you may have to install it by MR going to add/remove programs/Windows Setup, choosing System MR Tools/Details, then choosing Character Map - then apply. I haven't found this. How do you spell that in Chinese? g MR Or... what I do, is use a little fancier shareware one called MR Character Map Plus: MR http://www.less-mess.com/About_Map_plus.htm Thanks. Downloading as we speak. This is what I have been looking for. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hi Joe, On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:00:26 -0600GMT (09/01/2002, 12:00 +0800GMT), Joe Finocchiaro wrote: JF Start|Programs|Accessories|System Tools|Character Map JF The character set you're looking for, I think, is under System or JF 'Symbol. Under Accessories, I have only: - Communications | Internet Connection Wizard - Multimedia | RealPlayer 7 Basic. No System Tools. Maybe the SysAd disabled it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Accented characters
Hello all, For the last few years I've been using a shareware program called LatinKey to type accents: http://www.fanix.com/latinkey/ It's expensive compared to the options others have described, but it provides a significant advantage: typing accents may be done with just *two* keyclicks. Why does this matter? well, two reasons: first, it reduces the digital acrobatics as I think one person called extended key combinations. Second, LK's key sequences are more natural (at least for me): I type the letter and then the accent key, just like handwriting a letter and writing an accent over it. No hitting a hotkey first. I just open or enable LK before I write an email or other French text, and disable or close it when I'm done. It works anywhere I can type text -- on the web, in any word processor, and of course, in TB! Let me give you an example of how it works: when LK is enabled, typing e1 produces é. If I actually want e1 then I just type e11. I know this seems like a backwards way to think about typing, but it works remarkably well. After all, I'm much more likely to want é than e1. Of course, you can configure the accent keys to suit your own typing habits. I've tried several workarounds for typing accents on a US keyboard, including most of the options already discussed in this thread. Nothing allows faster or easier typing of accents than LK -- in my experience anyway ;) Just a very satisfied user, Havivah _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Accented characters
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 10:18:00 PM, you wrote: [...] Under Accessories, I have only: - Communications | Internet Connection Wizard - Multimedia | RealPlayer 7 Basic. No System Tools. Maybe the SysAd disabled it? If you're on a network, that's probably what happened (actually, it was probably never installed). He/she (the SysAd) is the person to see. -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
