Re[5]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Lourdes, LJ I would backup, uninstall, delete the registry keys and then reinstall LJ (do not restore yet), test to see if things are working (no AV LJ entering properties), then restore and test again. I did it in that sequence, and the first time in run after the installtion I got already the AV (before the restore). -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Wilfried, Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:14:36 PM, Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: WM Could it be the amount of mail I have ? My The bat folder is 200 WM MB. Maybe not ever tested with great amount of mail ? I have over 200,000 pieces of mail taking up 1.22 GB of space. The amount of mail you have is not the problem. -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Wilfried, Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:07:16 AM, Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: WM Hello, WM Some question just came up. After the fresh install TB it was not WM an unregistered version. does this means that the registry was NOT WM cleaned with the uninstall ?? (so another bug ?) Not a bug. Possibly not what you would like but it's working as designed. Not all of the registry keys are deleted so that you do not loose your registration information. WM If this is true then I should again try again ? I would backup, uninstall, delete the registry keys and then reinstall (do not restore yet), test to see if things are working (no AV entering properties), then restore and test again. regedit /e TheBat!.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! to save settings regedit TheBat!.reg to restore them -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Mark, MW While we're on the subject, how about Folder | Maintenance | Check MW Integrity/Repair? That's cleared up some stuff for me before. tryed it. All folders: 'nothing to do'. I think I will try with a fresh installation when I have a moment of time -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Made a backup copy, uninstalled the bat completely including registry key's, removed folder and did fresh install of v2. On the first run it startet with the AV, but could go on. After restoring all my folders all is working again, but I still have the same problem. Am I the only one with Thebat v2 on winNT ? Of course I can start v1.62 if I wants to do something in my account properties, but that seems not a good workaround :( And also what happens if the 30 day evaluate period is expired for the old version. Will it stop working ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, Some question just came up. After the fresh install TB it was not an unregistered version. does this means that the registry was NOT cleaned with the uninstall ?? (so another bug ?) If this is true then I should again try again ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Mark, MW remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this MW file from the CAB files? I did but is same result. MW Also, regarding the beta version you installed... was that a version 2 MW or 1.6x? It was a 1.6x beta. And then I recall the first AV started (the one I did not mind, because pressing escape I could go on). But this is interesting: I have kept my original 1.62 version (renamed it to keep it). When I run it, I have the first AV. This means that something is went wrong, where version 1.62 did a non fatal AV, and version 2. do a second fatal AV. Could it be the amount of mail I have ? My The bat folder is 200 MB. Maybe not ever tested with great amount of mail ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
11-Sep-2003 20:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it be the amount of mail I have ? My The bat folder is 200 MB. Maybe not ever tested with great amount of mail ? Since purge+compress has proven now and then to be a cure for many problems, have you tried that? (purge+compress all folders, I mean). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am skeptical about skepticism: one could write an interesting article debunking debunking. As with belief, so much depends on the way the mind faces. -- Martyn Skinner Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A Since purge+compress has proven now and then to be a cure for many A problems, have you tried that? (purge+compress all folders, I mean). Just tryed it, but in most folders it say 'nothing to do' as I have setup all my folders to cleanup on exit. Result is still same... -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, We not get result :( Is there files I can safely delete ? i could start with that ! If that does not help, I could install a second the bat on this machine, see if it works normal, then start copying the mail folders one by one (without conficuration files).. then start copying configuration files. seems a good method to me.. not ? -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
11-Sep-2003 20:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems a good method to me.. not ? If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) One of life's mysteries is how a two pound box of candy can make a woman gain five pounds. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Ok thanks. It is a pretty that I dont know exact meaning and content of some files. I see there is data and index and configuration files, but dont know what to delete and when it is safe. should be more easy :) I will try tomorrow and let you know. thanks for all advice of course. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
Wilfried- Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:44:57 AM, you wrote: WM Just tryed it, but in most folders it say 'nothing to do' as I have setup all WM my folders to cleanup on exit. Result is still same... While we're on the subject, how about Folder | Maintenance | Check Integrity/Repair? That's cleared up some stuff for me before. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Alexander, A If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. while I agree completely with your advice there is something to concider: suppose (probably) it works then, nobody will ever know what the problem was. i'm a developer myself and I should hate this :( I like to get down to problems and know the reason... Tomorrow or some while later someone else has also an AV The sorry thing is that the TECH and BETA lists is not very helpfull. I had expect at least a developer is once a while looking at it But the talk in those lists is more in anti virus and other silly things... not mutch tech there :( I wants to know that the help in this list is great ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
Alexander- Thursday, September 11, 2003, 12:21:03 PM, you wrote: A If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility, A completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup. Ditto. The internal backup will *probably* save all the registry setting, too, but I'd back them up just to be safe, then delete them when prompted by the uninstall process. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello, I have not mutch luck on the 2 other mailing list. The tech seems dead, the beta is only some talk around anti virus and so :( so I try here. I will try to explain clear, but my english is not so well :( After upgrading to v2, I have AV when I hit account - properties. In fact I have 2 after each other. the first is: AV in NTDll.dll, read of address 18 the secend: AV in TheBat.exe, read of address 0 After both access violations my cursor is hourglass and stay that way until I click on a folder in one of the accounts. TheBat is working normal, but I cannot get into the accoutn properties. I have to say, that one of the AV's started when I downloaded a beta version on advice of someone. It was the first (AV in NtDll.dll) but I dont know the exception message anymore. I did not find this a problem because: - it was a beta version - hitting Esc and I had the properties :) I already search the registry in the RIT key's to see if I see something strange. The only strange I found was in RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot/ a key called: user1, user2, user3, user4 where user2 and 3 are the same, and user4 is an account that I have deleted a while ago. Can I delete these keys ? Of course I checked also the configuration files in the 'the bat' folder, but unfortionaly it is binary files, no information on it, so not mutch I can check. Oh yes: I dont know if that was after or before the AV problem but I made some experiment with mailing list and so. Deleted the folders in the bat, and then of course also from the HDD. But I do not see these folders in registry and so, so I think nothing to do about that. for the rest thebat is working fine. it is only the acount properties :( any advice is welcome ! -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6a Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
Wilfried- Hmmm. An access violation in Ntdll.dll sounds pretty serious. I don't remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this file from the CAB files? The /Users Depot/ area in the registry should correspond with the account information you see in the accounts pane. I believe it should be safe to delete unused items, taking care to remove both the Dir and User keys. Also, the Count key should be adjusted if you do this. Also, regarding the beta version you installed... was that a version 2 or 1.6x? I have had some problems in the past where installing over a broken copy didn't work - I had to uninstall the existing copy, then install the new one to clear up some problems. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access violation in Account - Properties
11-Sep-2003 00:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. An access violation in Ntdll.dll sounds pretty serious. I don't remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this file from the CAB files? ...and don't forget to install ServicePack6a again. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html