Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, 3:52:42 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
JBL `-

 As this is the incoming message, I don't think it's TB's fault, when
 looking to this I can't get any further than 'CRB' as the file name

When I tested this by looking at the message source before it was
downloaded, I found the full file name.  It seems to be a problem with
the way the TB is handling the message once received that is causing
the problems.

 Do you have your TB mail processed by an extra tool, spam filter,
 whatever that's leaving Outlook's mail alone?

I have tried downloading the same messages with SpamPal disabled, with
the same result, so that does not seem to be the source of the
problem.

As I said, I am not sure how far this is TB's fault, as it is
probably a badly configured server at the other end that is causing
the problems, be I don't think TB should be truncating the file names,
particularly when other MUAs don't.

Julian

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-20 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Julian,

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:10:07 +GMT (20-11-03, 10:10 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JBL As I said, I am not sure how far this is TB's fault, as it is
JBL probably a badly configured server at the other end that is causing
JBL the problems, be I don't think TB should be truncating the file names,
JBL particularly when other MUAs don't.

In that case I'd like to see a message as it was before TB downloaded
it

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Julian-

Thursday, November 20, 2003, 1:10:07 AM, you wrote:

JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
JBL `-

I don't think this is TB's fault. Here's part of the header for a pdf
file I received as an attachment. It came through fine. Spaces and
punctuation and all. That octet-stream encoding may be the key,
though.

Content-Type: application/pdf; x-mac-type=50444620; x-mac-creator=4341524F;
 name=YOU ARE INVITED!.pdf
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: Unknown Document
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename=YOU ARE INVITED!.pdf

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Julian,

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:44:06 +GMT (14-11-03, 22:44 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
JBL `-

As this is the incoming message, I don't think it's TB's fault, when
looking to this I can't get any further than 'CRB' as the file name

JBL As an experiment, I tried forwarding the message from Outlook to
JBL another email account, and downloaded it with TB.  The files came
JBL across perfectly.

Do you have your TB mail processed by an extra tool, spam filter,
whatever that's leaving Outlook's mail alone?

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-18 Thread Gerard

ON Friday, November 14, 2003, 11:06:49 AM, you wrote:
JBL I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
JBL names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
JBL that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

Hi Julian,

I have exactly the same problem one of my suppliers. They send me a price
list in pdf format. My solution is to save the file as a pdf file and
then it opens as a normal file.

In my case the file name is Daily Facts neu.pdf which gets shortened
to just Daily

I am not sure it is TB! hat is causing this because the name in the
section is just Daily. See below.
The full name is not to be seen anywere, so how i TB! to know?
I always assumed it was a problem with the sender.

,- [  ]
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Daily
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
`-


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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 1:44:13 PM, Gerard wrote:

 I am not sure it is TB! hat is causing this because the name in the
 section is just Daily. See below.
 The full name is not to be seen anywere, so how i TB! to know?
 I always assumed it was a problem with the sender.

 ,- [  ]
 | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Daily
 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 `-

I thought that, but Outlook downloads the message with the full file
name, so why not the TB?

[pauses to check using Popcorn]

The problem seems to be TB. Using Popcorn to look at the mail, I get
the following headers, which include the full file name:

,- [ Output from Popcorn Mail Client ]
| To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting
| Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7]
| 
| 
| Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc
| [snip message text]
| 
| 
| begin 600 Haringey Tender final.doc
| MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_00
| MQ00`$```QP0```$```#^`+L$``\!```O00``+X$
| M``_!```P`0``,$$``#!```PP0``,0$``#8!```604``/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@8`
`-

This is what I get in TB:

,- [ Copy of Headers in TB ]
| To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting
| Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7]
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| 
|Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc
| [snip body text]
| 
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Haringey
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| 
| 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAQxQQA
| EAAAxwQAAAEAAAD+ALsEAAC8BAAAvQQAAL4EAAC/BAAAwAQAAMEEAADCBAAA
| wwQAAMQEAADYBAAAWQUAAP8FAAB6BgAAxgYAAFIHAAD/
`-

Something is happening when TB works out the file name from the
footer, and I think that the problem is related to 8 bit messages, as
I see that yours has the same octet-stream content type.

Does anyone else have this problem?  Is there a way to force TB to
send 8 bit messages so I can test?

Julian

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Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
Hello TB! Users,

I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

The messages are fine if downloaded in Outlook - the problem only
appears to affect this one organization (suggesting a misconfiguration
somewhere), and only TB (which probably means that TB is handling the
messages properly, and Outlook is not!).

I think that this might be another Base64 problem, as the messages are
encoded as Base64, whilst messages I have no problems with tend to be
7-bit.

Has anyone else come across this?

Julian

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Julian,

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:06:49 +GMT (14-11-03, 11:06 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JBL I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
JBL names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
JBL that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

Haven't seen this before.
Could you post the headers of the attachment section of a faulty
message? You can see those only when you're viewing the source. (Press F9)

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Re: Attachment Name Problems

2003-11-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, November 14, 2003, 5:12:31 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

JBL I am having problems with attachments I am receiving.  The attachment
JBL names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so
JBL that The Full Filename.doc becomes The.

 Haven't seen this before.
 Could you post the headers of the attachment section of a faulty
 message? You can see those only when you're viewing the source. (Press F9)

It does not tell you very much, but here it is (addresses munged)!

,- [ Message Headers ]
| Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| From: xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: x Tender
| Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:52:51 -
| X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2003 13:09:03.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F67D450:01C3A9E7]
| X-Bayesian-Result: Clean (0) 
| X-Bayesian-Words: 07970 0 608348 0 7330 0 7697 0 86yd 0 9170 0 addressee 0 attached 0
| X-SpamPal: PASS
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
`-

,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name]
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF
| Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
`-

As an experiment, I tried forwarding the message from Outlook to
another email account, and downloaded it with TB.  The files came
across perfectly.

This this the file boundary of the message when I shows properly in
TB, after forwarding from Outlook:

,- [ File Boundary - message forwarded from Outlook (same file) ]
| --=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3AAF7.A920D0D0
| Content-Type: application/msword;
| name=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| Content-Disposition: attachment;
| filename=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc
`-

I am not sure what the problem is, but I wonder if it is related to it
being 8 bit?  I guess that is what the Content-Type:
application/octet-stream; name=CRB means.  I suspect that it is a
problem with the sender's set up, but I am not sure why it is
upsetting TB!  Probably something Microsoft did!

Julian

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