Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck,

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:33:01 +0100 GMT (23/09/2003, 17:33 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> So, once more - with feeling:

> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html

Works well, thanks. :-)

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Gerard,

Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 1:22:32 AM, you wrote:
E>> 
E>> Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
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G> I have attached my x-ray filter for changing the TB! X-mailer
G> header. You should be able to import it into X-Ray



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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Jurgen,

@23-Sep-2003, 08:00 +0200 (07:00 UK time) Jurgen Haug [JH] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas:

>>> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

>> And why oh why do I get a 404?

JH> because it's spammer.html and not spammerS.html ;-)

D'oh! It is that. Sorry to all for that typo.

So, once more - with feeling:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-23 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 7:40:50 AM, you wrote:

>>> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

>> And why oh why do I get a 404?

E> I did, too.

E> I also cannot make X-ray delete the X-mailer.  This has not
E> been my week.

E> Elaine

Hi Elaine,

I have send a X-Ray file to your email address with my filter setting ,
which works ;-)

I have mine set for delete, but you can aslo change it.


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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-23 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 7:40:50 AM, you wrote:

>>> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

>> And why oh why do I get a 404?

E> I did, too.

E> I also cannot make X-ray delete the X-mailer.  This has not
E> been my week.

E> Elaine

E> Northern Virginia USA

E> (without power much of the week, dealing with annoying
E> server techs when powered up, and only last night finally
E> given a clear on tap water all due to Isabel)




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Hi Elaine,

I have attached my x-ray filter for changing the TB! X-mailer header.
You should be able to import it into X-Ray

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-22 Thread ETM

>> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

> And why oh why do I get a 404?

I did, too.

I also cannot make X-ray delete the X-mailer.  This has not
been my week.

Elaine

Northern Virginia USA

(without power much of the week, dealing with annoying
server techs when powered up, and only last night finally
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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck,

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:39 +0100 GMT (22/09/2003, 22:58 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

And why oh why do I get a 404?

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-22 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Anne,

@22-Sep-2003, 08:13 Anne [A] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DW>> The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have
DW>> disappeared - anyone know where it might now be found?

A> Internet Archive has a copy here Deborah:

A> 
http://web.archive.org/web/20021125141407/http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html

I have now re-instated the original version of this page on the FAQ
website. Once RIT provide a URL for the official version, I will
switch back to the referral page that was there before.

See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammers.html

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-22 Thread Anne
Friday, September 19, 2003, 1:45:56 AM, Deborah wrote:

DW> The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have disappeared -
DW> anyone know where it might now be found?


Internet Archive has a copy here Deborah:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021125141407/http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/spammer.html

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Re[2]: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-20 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Chris,

Friday, September 19, 2003, 1:08:03 PM, you wrote:

C> Technically, since we use English and not Latin, the plural of virus
C> is viruses. In Latin, the plural of virus is NOT viri or virii. It is vira.
C> (It's irregular in that regard.)

Seems the plural (if it has ever existed at all) would be "virus",
http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-19 Thread Chris

On Friday, September 19, 2003 at 6:15:49 AM, John Phillips wrote in
the message "Blocking Bat mail"
<mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?) called Bat

> http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/db/w/wolfdem_s_bat_virus_creator.asp

Technically, since we use English and not Latin, the plural of virus
is viruses. In Latin, the plural of virus is NOT viri or virii. It is vira.
(It's irregular in that regard.)

Viri means "of the virus", "of the man", "the men", "Men!", "for
strength", or "by strength."

Virii does not exist in Latin (or English).

NB: There are many different translations of virus, vir, and vis, so
the above list is not comprehensive.

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Re[2]: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-19 Thread Dave Kennedy
Friday, September 19, 2003, 8:43:54 AM, Martin WEBSTER wrote:
JP>> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?)

M> Oh no, not again... believe me it's virus (singular) and
M> viruses (plural).

M> - -- Best regards, Martin Webster

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-19 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello John,

On 19 September 2003, 20:15 +1000 (11:15 local time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JP> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?)

Oh no, not again... believe me it's virus (singular) and viruses
(plural).

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-19 Thread John Phillips
Hi Melissa,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 17:32:25 [GMT-0700] (which was Fri, 10:32:25
where I live) you wrote:



> I don't know how that got started,


Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?) called Bat

http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/db/w/wolfdem_s_bat_virus_creator.asp



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Re[2]: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Jack Morrison
Thursday, September 18, 2003, 8:40:57 PM, you wrote:

> I shared my original post here with RitLabs.  There's not
> much more I can or am willing to do.

Providers/web masters who use ASAP! also block *all* messages coming from TB:

http://www.commtouch.com

I've had it happen to me three times just this week alone.

It's really starting to make me mad, too.

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ETM
Hello Marck

On Thursday, September 18, 2003, you wrote

> Anyway, AMS also fakes an OE header, so if this highly irresponsible
> ISP were to block Outlook Express users too, then (and only then)
> would their action be fair and reasonable.

Thanks, Marck.  I had already told my correspondent that her
server techs were on par with book burners and had brains
that required pooper scoopers.  And, without your
suggestion, had asked whether OE also was being blackholed
since all MY spam came from OE users and  .

I shared my original post here with RitLabs.  There's not
much more I can or am willing to do.

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Etm,

@18-Sep-2003, 19:58 -0400 (19/09/200300:58 UK time) ETM [EOV] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB:

EOV> Anyone hear know about this garbage?

Yes. So do RITlabs.

... 

EOV> This is coming from a coastaccess.com user.

Explain this to them. The spam comes with this header:

> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Business

  That is a faked header produced by the Advanced Mass Sender (AMS) by Max Terentiev.
  This spamware offers four different X-Mailer lines:

  Advanced Mass Sender
  Outlook Express 4.72
  X-Mailer
  The Bat! (v1.52f) Business

This is an old set and AMS may have been updated to add a new
version header of, say, 1.61.

Anyway, AMS also fakes an OE header, so if this highly irresponsible
ISP were to block Outlook Express users too, then (and only then)
would their action be fair and reasonable.

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread Deborah W
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, 7:58:26 PM, ETM wrote:

E> My ISP called this morning to tell me the reason is, they have
E> blocked any "Bat" program messages. Made sense to me because I know
E> you use "Bat" e-mail program. They told most spam comes on "Bat"
E> program, and they have blocked it, and can't unblock the whole
E> program, for just little old me.

If they'd done any research at all, they'd have discovered that TB isn't
a spamming program, that most spam comes from Outlook (have they blocked
Outlook messages?), & that trying to control spam by blocking certain
email clients is a very dumb idea in the first place.

The Ritlabs page on TB as a spam-tool appears to have disappeared -
anyone know where it might now be found?

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Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ken
ETM wrote:
> Anyone hear know about this garbage?


There was a post on the RitLab home page some time ago about behavior
like this (before the site makeover).  It may still be there somewhere.

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Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-18 Thread ETM
Anyone hear know about this garbage?

"I have an answer to my problem not receiving your e-mail.
Can't believe  they really followed through. My ISP called
this morning to tell me the  reason is, they have blocked
any "Bat" program messages. Made sense to  me because I know
you use "Bat" e-mail program. They told most spam  comes on
"Bat" program, and they have blocked it, and can't unblock
the  whole program, for just little old me. I am happy to
find out the  problem, but very sad to not be able to get
you contributions to the list. Hang on to your hat, until
"Isabel" passes, I am thinking of you and  everyone on the
east coast."

This is coming from a coastaccess.com user.

Elaine






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