Ritlabs News Bounce Messages (WAS: Re: emails are getting complicated)
On Friday, September 3, 2004, 8:53:06 AM, Tom Duda wrote: This all began when I purchased a license for The Bat! v3.0. I received in good time both expected emails, inluding the one with my registration keys. Then I received a third email telling me that because a sertain staff member was on vacation the email that I'd written to him had been forwareded to someone else. These messages are not being sent in response to any message that you have sent to the Ritlabs News mailing list. They are coming from the Ritlabs News mailing list, which you must have subscribed to when you said you wanted to be sent news and annoucements from Ritlabs. What is happening is that bounced messages to the RitLabs News mailing list address are being sent back out to the whole mailing list. This seems to be because these messages (I have had 3) are being bounced to the From: address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the Sender address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can either blame the RitLabs News mailing list setup, which probably should not be possible to reply to as the messages should only come from Ritlabs and not from members of the list, or you can blame the people who are bouncing messages back to the list address and not the bounced mail address. The evils of Out of Office replies! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi T'Buddlers, Any of you (and there are many) getting bounce messages from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry, but it's not our fault. It's theirs! If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's flood them with automated responses. Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). BeginFilter Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator Active: 1 Source: \\Marck\Inbox Target: \\Marck\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg ReplyTemplate: OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A EndFilter You'll like this - it includes the private email addresses of two of the registration contacts for the Vizzavi domain! Maybe they'll make sure the servers are reconfigured ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Nob5OeQkq5KdzaARAtulAJ4iKp0HmUn6lk6Bb4DZKZo4wMg5tgCfd+X7 qw4F5C4n962OFqNz0YtLaR8= =KANB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, @18 July 2002, 10:14 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB User Discussion list: MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). Here's an update to the filter that includes the message headers for their benefit (I already heard back from one of the directors). BeginFilter Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator Active: 1 Source: \\Marck\Inbox Target: \\Marck\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply ReplyTemplate: OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A EndFilter - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Np+XOeQkq5KdzaARApzTAKCJ9Q3pJmITkDQdqs/SlOKKZTng7wCeLTvs 4yr6g/JrRvsxgmb/pKkf83Q= =+b2G -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 5:14 AM, you wrote: MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg MDP ReplyTemplate: MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A MDP EndFilter this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX and YYY for existing names / Paul Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Marck, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 6:59:34 AM. MDP Here's an update to the filter that includes the message headers MDP for their benefit (I already heard back from one of the MDP directors). MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply MDP ReplyTemplate: MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A MDP EndFilter Where in the Filter is the ReplyTemplate: field suppost to land? The paste seemed to work (yes, I changed \\Marck\Inbox) and the filter created a msg and put it in my out box, but it used my Account reply template. Not the reply template you have above... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Stare at people. Its cheap entertainment. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 July 2002, 07:01 -0400 (12:01 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg MDP ReplyTemplate: MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A MDP EndFilter PC this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each PC field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX PC and YYY for existing names Sorry - I perhaps should have explained for the unfamiliar. Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields setup for you. This filter will mark read and move to trash any bounce messages from Vizzavi and generate a reply to the Vizzavi postmaster, CC'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the message body: ___ Don't tell me. I may be the originator but I'm NOT the sender. Please configure your server to send NDRs to the right address and STOP SENDING UCE TO THIS INNOCENT WEB TRAVELLER. - 8--- %QUOTESTYLE=NONE %HEADERS %TEXT ¯¯¯ The Vizzavi people don't like it but... hey, neither do we :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NqheOeQkq5KdzaARAoBGAJ0XIvRYco9FUTz3CNYmCJXTsyVYtgCg2JUE ypf8VY/i0J8mlEo1H07pFTU= =7wGY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Be very careful when testing out those rules, people! If you set the rule to send immediately upon rule satisfaction, you might find yourself mailbombing the recipient each time you bugtest the rule - thus you are spamming someone's account! :/ / St Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hi Tim, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:36:28 -0400, you wrote: MDP ReplyTemplate: MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];richard MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20m MDP e.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\ MDP 20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20ND MDP Rs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20T MDP HIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8- Where in the Filter is the ReplyTemplate: field suppost to land? The paste seemed to work (yes, I changed \\Marck\Inbox) and the filter created a msg and put it in my out box, but it used my Account reply template. Not the reply template you have above... The line wrapping broke it I think. You may want to copy the whole thing into notepad, and delete the line break on the above snippet. The ReplyTemplate: should all be on one line, but TB! line wrapped it to several. That may be the problem. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hi Marck, on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100GMT (18.07.02, 11:14 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MDP If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's MDP flood them with automated responses. MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). Nice idea. The filter works fine. I altered the reply text a little, so it looks more personal. :-) MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg Forgot do delete? ;-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes 'Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.9; )' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 7:53:50 AM. JA The line wrapping broke it I think. Yep, the single wrap did it... ,- [ This should be on one line... ] | ReplyTemplate: | |OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A `- JA You may want to copy the whole thing into notepad Any text editor but notepad! (how about SmartBat? g) Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why is abbreviated such a long word? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Dear Jonathan, Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:53:50 PM you wrote: JA The line wrapping broke it I think. You may want to copy the whole thing into JA notepad, and delete the line break on the above snippet. The ReplyTemplate: JA should all be on one line, but TB! line wrapped it to several. That may be the JA problem. I tried that, but my ReplyTemplate didn't work after that either. It is empty. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... And tears of selfpity floaded my innocent eyes. ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi St, @18 July 2002, 13:41 +0200 (12:41 UK time) St - Musaic.Net [SMN] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tee Bee Yoodle: SMN Be very careful when testing out those rules, people! SMN If you set the rule to send immediately upon rule satisfaction, SMN you might find yourself mailbombing the recipient each time you SMN bugtest the rule - thus you are spamming someone's account! :/ Agreed - wholeheartedly. The Filter was designed to queue in outbox rather than immediate send. Also, as Jonathan pointed out, the message viewer linewraps the ReplyTemplate: line incorrectly. Make sure that is all on one line before copying/pasting. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NrJJOeQkq5KdzaARApGyAJ46B/Rk8bnEaug6TECd0FJ6t1qKHACgk4AG wW+6PEisbjyInxtvBgjXwM4= =54r3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Britt, @18 July 2002, 14:12 +0200 (13:12 UK time) Britt Malka [BM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan Angliss: BM I tried that, but my ReplyTemplate didn't work after that either. BM It is empty. Let's try this again in a more accurate form: BeginFilter Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator Active: 1 Source: \\Marck\Inbox Target: \\Marck\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply ReplyTemplate:%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0AYou\20are\20writing\20to\20the\20wrong\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A EndFilter By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be able to wrap the line. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NrOEOeQkq5KdzaARAnGbAKD1uW4HJt5B2+ylKlK09B7qvArWTwCg/CiJ ZgscgzNUn00JRt87kFboGdo= =uiV1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Marck, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:24:34 AM. MDP ReplyTemplate:%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0AYou\20are\20writing\20to\20the\20wrong\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A MDP EndFilter MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be MDP able to wrap the line. Interesting, I thought that what you were seeing in the message editor is what was sent.. Did something change, or did TB always wrap on send like that? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @18 July 2002, 08:27 -0400 (13:27 UK time) Tim Musson [TM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be MDP able to wrap the line. TM Interesting, I thought that what you were seeing in the message editor TM is what was sent.. Did something change, or did TB always wrap on TM send like that? TB wraps *on view*. If you view source of the original message, you will see the line without wrapping. If you remove the spaces, TB has no point at which to wrap the line so it goes long. TB has to wrap on view for received messages - think of that Calypso user a couple of months back who used single line paragraphs. His messages would have been impossible to read. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NrlxOeQkq5KdzaARApzYAJ48SjQ/l6V42eQHMC1Rt4+j28tAoQCeL0g7 XainI3No3xMxk5N+bOynN7M= =6pdA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Marck, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:49:52 AM. MDP TB wraps *on view*. If you view source of the original message, MDP you will see the line without wrapping. MDP TB has to wrap on view for received messages Feeling foolish for not thinking this AM... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Life would be easier if I had the source code. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Marck, Thursday, July 18, 2002, 1:37:00 PM, you wrote: MDP Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to MDP copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click MDP into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields MDP setup for you. So sorry to have to ask, as everybody else seems to understand without needing more explanation, but what do you mean by *click into the list and Ctrl-V* ? The only possibility see is: Filters, Incoming mail, *New*, and then several fields to be filled in. Where on earth do I click and paste? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.60h op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, July 18, 2002, Ochrid wrote... The only possibility see is: Filters, Incoming mail, *New*, and then several fields to be filled in. Where on earth do I click and paste? Select the incoming mail folder icon, and press the CTRL and V key on your keyboard. That will paste the filter for you. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTbPziuD6BT4/R9zEQKbwACg0FOvUC+e4DTqwbXtfT0nXBMnsWgAn2Z1 V1PWrid3kYxRoU8mVOC0deko =ZZlT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Jonathan, Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:25:13 PM, you wrote: JA Select the incoming mail folder icon, and press the CTRL and V key on JA your keyboard. That will paste the filter for you. An so it did. I am speechless. Thank you! I have learned an awful lot from this group. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v1.61 op Windows XP _ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Dear Marck, Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 2:24:34 PM you wrote: MDP Let's try this again in a more accurate form: Great! This one worked! MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be MDP able to wrap the line. So, now I've learned that too. I didn't even know before that you could copy a filter in that way. Great! Thanks! -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 7:37 AM, you wrote: PC this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each PC field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX PC and YYY for existing names MDP Sorry - I perhaps should have explained for the unfamiliar. MDP Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to MDP copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click MDP into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields MDP setup for you. well, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!! it actually means. MDP Active: 1 active, what are my choices ? MDP Source: \\ ok, the folder where the mail is MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash that would be the folder to put it in MDP CopyFolder: none uh?? MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mainset, is that the TO: ? MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail ?? MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg ok, mark it read, send a reply and ?? MDP ReplyTemplate: this next line is an actual reply template all by itself? MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line. MDP EndFilter / Paul Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hi Marck, on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100GMT (18.07.02, 11:14 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). Phew, your filter came just in time. I had two of those messages each the last two days. But I had five this afternoon alone. So it seems to be increasing... Well, let's see if they wake up. Or if we'll get bounces of our complaints with no more space in mailbox. ;-) Holiday season after all... -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Shakira - Estoy Aqui Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hi Paul, on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:57:38 -0400GMT (18.07.02, 17:57 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PC what the H!! it actually means. I'll try to explain how I understand it - it may help my own understanding too. :-) MDP Active: 1 PC active, what are my choices ? active or manually. I only know it from the GUI, where it can be set. But I'm not too familiar with commandline anyway... ;-) MDP Source: \\ PC ok, the folder where the mail is MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash PC that would be the folder to put it in MDP CopyFolder: none PC uh?? No folder to copy this message to. Or do you want to copy it somewhere? Then you can set the folder path here. MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC mainset, is that the TO: ? No, it's the first window you get, when you open the filter with the GUI. MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail PC ?? A second option. Both strings must be present to trigger the filter. MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ?? The last one is create a new message. It is in here by mistake and should be deleted. MDP ReplyTemplate: PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself? MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A Yes, it's the complete reply template. You can view it via GUI in the actions tab. -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Laura Pausini - Siamo Noi Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Paul, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 11:57:38 AM. PCwell, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!! PC it actually means. I can take a stab at this one. However, I would suggest you create the template the way Marck did. Go into the Filter tool, and do it there... That said, ,- [ ] | BeginFilter | Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator - Filter name | Active: 1 - On or off (1/0) at a guess | Source: \\Marck\Inbox - Source Folder | Target: \\Marck\Trash - Target Folder | CopyFolder: none - I read this as 'don't put a |copy of the message in another folder. | MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Search string to identify msg | MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail - Second Search str | Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply- What to do Mark it Read, | Create Reply | |ReplyTemplate:%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0AYou\20are\20writing\20to\20the\20wrong\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A | This one is the template used to create the reply | The odd stuff you see is mostly formatting (look for | /20 - I believe that translates to a 'space' char). | I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20, | but I don't know what it is - anyone else have a | source for info on the translations? Web documents use | the codes like /20 also - problems putting a space in | a URL, so they translate to /20... | EndFilter - End of Filter g `- Again, I would suggest creating in TB's filter tool, the copy/paste into an editor (SmartBat). I am guessing you can rip out any fields that are not set. ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark] | This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line. | | NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine | | This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a | cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of | your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is | removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that | includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark | from the text you quote. `- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess] PC / Paul PC Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP PC 5.1 Build 2600 HTH -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 July 2002, 11:57 -0400 (16:57 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: PCwell, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!! PC it actually means. What it means? Not much because it amounts to an LDIF dump of a filter block. It was produced by a copy/paste/trim operation and should be used by the same process in reverse. MDP Active: 1 PC active, what are my choices ? Probably 1 or 0. MDP CopyFolder: none PC uh?? The folder to copy a message to? MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC mainset, is that the TO: ? No, it's the primary matching rule. The first two digits indicate the location and presence flags although I don't know how. MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail PC ?? MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ?? The Create new message flag - set in error. MDP ReplyTemplate: PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself? Yes - when the following line is not wrapped away from it. MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A PC not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line. The actual ReplyTemplate: contents, orphaned because of window wrap and the space following the ':'. As I said, understanding it is unnecessary because you need only ever use it in copy / paste operations - in and out. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NuzqOeQkq5KdzaARAk+4AJ9CuFkBDG0MVXWm1hSYrx3gzKa/EgCcDDCO V8MazWI8LcZpAGDllDMBJcU= =+g+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Paul, On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 5:57:38 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PC well, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!! it PC actually means. Albeit it _really_ does not matter I could try to explain what me (and for sure several other people) figured out by 'reverse engineering'. Why it doesn't matter? Simply because nobody should create or edit filters in this format. It's just an 'easy to exchange existing filters' format, for situation like this or similar :-) The filter can be edited much easier and errors can be avoided by using 'Sorting Office' :-) MDP Active: 1 PC active, what are my choices ? [0|1] ... guess what '0' means :-) MDP CopyFolder: none PC uh?? There's an 'Action' available: 'Create a copy of message in another folder' MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC mainset, is that the TO: ? It's the 'rules' on first tab sheet. The 'Main' filter strings, in opposite to the one in 'Alternatives'. '00' in front of the string means: - Location 'Sender' - Presence 'Yes' MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail PC ?? An additional 'MainSet: ...' ... just another rules on the main page. - Location 'Subject' - Presence 'Yes' MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ?? ... and create a new message. This was accidentally activated and should _not_ be present in that filter. MDP ReplyTemplate: PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself? Correct. With every non-alphanumeric character 'encoded' for portability reasons. MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A PC not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line. MainSet are the rules, this one _is_ to 'ReplyTemplate' as you already guessed. It simply was shown one line below, because TB! broke the line while viewing at the space after 'ReplyTemplate:'. At least at this position a signature delimiter would be _great_. Quite more easy to realize than writing and/or editing TB!-filter in it's textual representation :-) PC PC Current Ver: 1.61 PC FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) It's currently a problem of access to gigabits through punybaud. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Tim, On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 6:26:25 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): TM This one is the template used to create the reply The odd stuff you see TM is mostly formatting (look for /20 - I believe that translates to a TM 'space' char). It does. TM I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20, No. There's a RFC for e.g. URLs and how to format special characters like ' ' in them ... this one defines the characters have to be 'encoded' by using '%' plus their hexadecimal representation. So in an URL a space character with char code '32' it would have been '%20' because '32d' equals to '0x20' ... *ah* most of us do know this string '%20'?? Yeah :-) It's the same you must use in a 'mailto:' link when you want a space in it :-) Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx', but '\xx'? Because RIT decided to do so. '\' is an escape sequence known from several sources, like C, Perl and other programming languages. Maybe the component RIT uses for parsing the text to the object that represents a filter is already capable to interpret '\xx' as 'char with the hex code 'xx' and '\\' as 'literal \' and therefore there was no need to manually implement a '%xx' decoding routine :-) Would make most sense of all ideas that came to my mind to me :-) HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Der beste Diskdoubler: DEL \WINDOWS\*.* Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Peter, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:09:05 PM. PP Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx', PP but '\xx'? I would guess this is because macro's are delimited with %... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why is it called lipstick if you can still move your lips? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Marck, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100 GMT (18/07/02, 16:14 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Any of you (and there are many) getting bounce messages from the MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry, but it's not our fault. It's theirs! MDP If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's MDP flood them with automated responses. MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-). I just sent them back another 35 (!) bounce messages. Sorry I copied you in, I didn't mean to mailbomb you, I was just helpless. Next time, I will send only to the addresses you mention. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Umfriend: Sexual relationship; this is Dale, my ... um ...friend. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:33:47 +0700GMT (18.07.02, 18:33 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TF Hello Marck, TF I just sent them back another 35 (!) bounce messages. Sorry I copied TF you in, I didn't mean to mailbomb you, I was just helpless. Next time, TF I will send only to the addresses you mention. Sh.. happens... *ROFLMAO* Sorry, could not resist... ;o) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: Travis Tritt - I'm Gonna Be Somebody Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Tim, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:26:25 -0400 GMT (18/07/02, 23:26 +0700 GMT), Tim Musson wrote: TM | I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20, TM | but I don't know what it is - anyone else have a TM | source for info on the translations? It is the hexadecimal value of the space character in ASCII. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wie man sich fettet, so wiegt man. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hello Tim, On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 7:14:07 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PP Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx', PP but '\xx'? TM I would guess this is because macro's are delimited with %... Quite another idea :-) A good one too :-) Albeit it would be quite easy to 'encode' the '%' from macro insert to '%25' too ;-) Nevertheless ... a combination of both will be the reason ... or none of them :-) Doesn't matter, it IS a method to represent 'special' characters, based on their hex values :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) No woman is worth the loss of a night's sleep. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hey Thomas, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) Personal' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:40:32 PM. TF It is the hexadecimal value of the space character in ASCII. Good to know, that will make it easier to translate (ASCII tables are easy to find). Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What else can you do at 3:00 am? Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
Hallo Marck, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100GMT (18-7-02, 11:14 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MDP Any of you (and there are many) getting bounce messages from the MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry, but it's not our fault. It's theirs! Can't you unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]? That seems to be the first line recipient... -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roelof, @19 July 2002, 01:08 +0200 (00:08 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: RO Can't you unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]? That seems to be the first RO line recipient... Don't you think it was the first thing I did? g It was. He's been gone for more than 24 hours. Sadly, the bounce messages coming through right now are the ones from Saturday's postings. We have the bounce messages from the rest of the week's submissions to get through yet. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9N1frOeQkq5KdzaARAq2TAKDnwoUIPAjPVI+2CqIdNJReSqfHcgCePzDt O8+EG9MFc4k3P8vPEdKjbzE= =ktvg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Bounce messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Bat Fans, If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... ,- [ runbox bounce message sample ] | This message was created automatically by mail delivery software | (Exim). | | A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its | recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: | | pipe to |/local/RMM/mail-pipe -f Inbox `- ... please just delete them and ignore it. I have written to the runbox postmaster to complain - it's not our fault! OTOH, if you write to runbox too and demand that they configure their servers correctly, that wouldn't be a bad thing ... ;-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - a spare brain - from: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZAecOeQkq5KdzaARAghLAKC4ZT1WrNV+IfCMmX170bRLVoyYqACg5xp8 WKTH3JOLVUpp6yyeAldzlX4= =Xnug -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Marck! On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 6:15:06 PM you wrote: ... please just delete them and ignore it. I have written to the runbox postmaster to complain - it's not our fault! OTOH, if you write to runbox too and demand that they configure their servers correctly, that wouldn't be a bad thing ... ;-). And I just wanted to start my private little war ... ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Marck, 08. februar 2002, 18:15:06, you wrote: MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] If it tastes good, you can't have it. If it tastes awful, you'd better clean your plate. -- Old Children's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
Hello Jernej, On Friday, February 8, 2002 at 9:54:47 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... JS How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) With a crap of mail server configuration, and maybe 'playing with re-queuing messages' one can ... it's stupid, but possible. It no more stupid than bouncing the message to 'From:' instead of 'Return-Path:' :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/36 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bounce messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, On 08 February 2002 at 21:54:47 +0100 (which was 20:54 where I live) Jernej Simonèiè wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP If any of you start getting the following bounce messages... How can they bounce the messages half a year after they were sent? :) That's ISPs for you! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - mind power - at: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/37-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8ZELnOeQkq5KdzaARApI5AKDvVyAKq30SoKDbNjiTu+OYdWUaHQCdFkX5 sAi4I3+vXO2vR6BCHzFF7yQ= =IL/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
