Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-14 Thread Kim
Hi DG,

Saturday, September 13, 2003, 8:19:18 PM, you wrote:

 I'm guessing that plain mail would be in the realm of an EICAR text
 string but AFAIK, and I've been in the IT/IS admin field for quite some
 time, attachments are the only way a virus can deliver it's payload
 and propagate is through a file attachment that is executed.

I wrote to Kaspersky tech support and they confirmed that leaving
plain mail unchecked is fine, since I have the other setting set to
check all files on my hard drive, versus all infectable. So it
looks like all is fine, and things run so much faster this way.  :)

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Best regards,
Kim



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E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread Kim
Hi all,

Since I was having so many problems with slow downloading of e-mail
messages, I decided to play with adjusting my settings in the
Kaspersky Monitor with regards to e-mail scanning. I had the following
items checked to scan:

Archives with self-extractors
Plain mail
Embedded objects

I removed the check next to plain mail, but I want to make sure I'm
still well protected. For those that use Kaspersky, what settings are
needed to provide good protection against viruses in e-mail messages?
Does plain mail need to be marked? Am I taking a chance by unmarking
it?

I noticed that everything moves much faster when plain mail is not
scanned. However, in checking the Kaspersky monitor, I noticed that
when I select an e-mail in my mailbox, Kaspersky still appears to scan
it, as the path that appears in the settings changes to a Bat path. I
did have the prior settings that way for quite a long time, and didn't
used to have a problem with slowness until recently. I'm just trying
to figure out how to resolve the problem, but assure that I'm still
well protected.

Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.  :)

-- 
Best regards,
Kim



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Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread Stan Robins
On Saturday, September 13, 2003, at 1:13:18 PM, I received a message,
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
in which you wrote:

(Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) 

 Hi all,

 Since I was having so many problems with slow downloading of e-mail
 messages, I decided to play with adjusting my settings in the
 Kaspersky Monitor with regards to e-mail scanning. I had the following
 items checked to scan:

 Archives with self-extractors
 Plain mail
 Embedded objects

 I removed the check next to plain mail, but I want to make sure I'm
 still well protected. For those that use Kaspersky, what settings are
 needed to provide good protection against viruses in e-mail messages?
 Does plain mail need to be marked? Am I taking a chance by unmarking
 it?

 I noticed that everything moves much faster when plain mail is not
 scanned. However, in checking the Kaspersky monitor, I noticed that
 when I select an e-mail in my mailbox, Kaspersky still appears to scan
 it, as the path that appears in the settings changes to a Bat path. I
 did have the prior settings that way for quite a long time, and didn't
 used to have a problem with slowness until recently. I'm just trying
 to figure out how to resolve the problem, but assure that I'm still
 well protected.

 Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.  :)

What version of Kaspersky are you using? I have Personal Edition V.
4.0.5. The Monitor doesn't have any email settings that I can see.
There is a separate AntiVirus Email Checker component with different
settings than those you describe.

The user can't configure the email checker directly in my version. You
have to do it through the Outlook Tools menu even though you don't use
Outlook as your email client. (one of several braindead features of
Kaspersky's overall design!) But it seems to know how to find the
active client. I get a Kaspersky logo next to the tray (WinXP) while
downloading mail.

I haven't noticed any download speed problems, but I am using TB
1.62r.

-- 
Stan Robins
Mendota Heights, MN

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat, 1.62r
www.ritlabs.com 

*
Golf and sex are the only two things you can enjoy 
without being good at either of 'em!
-- Jimmy Demaret
*



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Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread Kim
Hi Stan,

Saturday, September 13, 2003, 2:41:31 PM, you wrote:

 What version of Kaspersky are you using? I have Personal Edition V.
 4.0.5. The Monitor doesn't have any email settings that I can see.
 There is a separate AntiVirus Email Checker component with different
 settings than those you describe.

 The user can't configure the email checker directly in my version. You
 have to do it through the Outlook Tools menu even though you don't use
 Outlook as your email client. (one of several braindead features of
 Kaspersky's overall design!) But it seems to know how to find the
 active client. I get a Kaspersky logo next to the tray (WinXP) while
 downloading mail.

 I haven't noticed any download speed problems, but I am using TB
 1.62r.

I'm using Kaspersky version 4.0.6.0, Personal Edition. When I go to
the Monitor settings, and click on the Objects button, on the far
right I am given choices of what I want to scan. Under Compound
Files are the settings I was referring to. I'm sorry I wasn't more
clear about that. My fault. Anyway, one of the choices there is plain
mail. That's the one I have unmarked, to improve performance. I just
don't want to leave myself open to problems if I leave it unmarked.
The two things I left checked are Archives with self-extractors and
Embedded objects.

I also have Kaspersky Monitor set to scan All Files on my hard
drive. That setting is located a few items above the other one. The
other choice was All infectable, but I've always felt more secure
with the All Files setting. That's why I'm wondering if that setting
is sufficient in itself, where I wouldn't need to worry about the
plain mail setting. Maybe checking plain mail was overkill in the
first place. I don't know.

The e-mail checker part of Kaspersky I don't use, since it's
specifically for Outlook, and I don't use Outlook. I wrote to
Kaspersky once asking about this feature, and they are the ones that
told me that the mail checker was just for Outlook (I'm assuming for
Outlook Express too, but I don't know).

Can viruses come in plain e-mail? I know they can in HTML mail and
also in attachments, but I'm not sure about plain e-mail. There was a
time when the answer would have definitely been no, but now-a-days
it's hard to tell.  :)

-- 
Best regards,
Kim



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Re[2]: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
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Saturday, September 13, 2003
7:40:01 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

Greetings Kim,

On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 5:07:03 PM, you wrote:

Kim The e-mail checker part of Kaspersky I don't use, since it's
Kim specifically for Outlook, and I don't use Outlook. I wrote to
Kim Kaspersky once asking about this feature, and they are the ones that
Kim told me that the mail checker was just for Outlook (I'm assuming for
Kim Outlook Express too, but I don't know).

Not here, although I run Kapersky Pro 4.5.0.48. The minute I installed
it and went to The_Bat's Preferences and then Protection - Anti Virus
the Kapersky plugin was recognized in the drop down box as Kapersky
3.5.9.0.

Seems to work here as it has quarantined a few Sobig.F attachments.

Anyway ...

- --
Regards,
 DG Raftery Sr.

Stupidity is not a handicap. Park elsewhere!

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Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread Kim
Hi DG,

Saturday, September 13, 2003, 7:47:17 PM, you wrote:

 Not here, although I run Kapersky Pro 4.5.0.48. The minute I installed
 it and went to The_Bat's Preferences and then Protection - Anti Virus
 the Kapersky plugin was recognized in the drop down box as Kapersky
 3.5.9.0.

 Seems to work here as it has quarantined a few Sobig.F attachments.

I'd love to use that plug-in. True, it works with the Pro version, but
not the Personal version. One person on this list told me that she
installed the Pro version and used her Personal edition key which
allowed her to use the plug-in with the Bat. The other Pro features
were disabled. I was going to try that, but the last time I
uninstalled Kaspersky and installed a newer version, it wreaked havoc
on my computer. Followed all the standard precautions, and even used
the special removal tool that Kaspersky tech support sent me, and
things still didn't work right. I ended up running Windows XP restore,
which got stuck in the middle, and never restored the portion that
does restore (so I couldn't re-run it). After several frustrating
hours of repairs, I ended up giving up and formatting my drive and
started over. Therefore, I'm not too eager to uninstall Kaspersky and
reinstall a different version yet (although I know eventually I need
to, and this problem was probably just a fluke, as I've uninstalled it
before without problems).

Probably should have just bought Pro in the first place.  :)

Any ideas on the whether viruses are in plain mail (non-html mail
with no attachments)? I'm assuming that's how Kaspersky defines plain
mail. I really should write them and ask. :)

-- 
Best regards,
Kim



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Re[2]: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

2003-09-13 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
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Saturday, September 13, 2003
8:12:44 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat

Greetings Kim,

On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:

Kim After several frustrating
Kim hours of repairs, I ended up giving up and formatting my drive and
Kim started over. Therefore, I'm not too eager to uninstall Kaspersky and
Kim reinstall a different version yet (although I know eventually I need
Kim to, and this problem was probably just a fluke, as I've uninstalled it
Kim before without problems).

I understand.

Kim Any ideas on the whether viruses are in plain mail (non-html mail
Kim with no attachments)? I'm assuming that's how Kaspersky defines plain
Kim mail. I really should write them and ask. :)

I'm guessing that plain mail would be in the realm of an EICAR text
string but AFAIK, and I've been in the IT/IS admin field for quite some
time, attachments are the only way a virus can deliver it's payload
and propagate is through a file attachment that is executed.

Anyway ...

- --
Regards,
 DG Raftery Sr.

You can't scare me. I drive a school bus!

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