Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hi Dierk, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:41:11 +0100GMT (15/01/2002, 02:41 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH With that numbers (as you gave them) I get what you see above. They DH are ASCII. For ANSI you'll need a leading 0 (see below in same order DH as above): There is no difference here whether I add a leading zero or not. alt-128: alt-0128: DH BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Left alt and right alt have the same effect: alt-e open the Edit menu in the editor window. crtl-alt-e has no effect. I am using a US keyboard. Well, I can switch to Chinese mode, but that's not the point. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Thomas! On 15 Jan 2002 at 9:00:32 am you wrote: There is no difference here whether I add a leading zero or not. alt-128: alt-0128: Hmm, that's funny ... I'd like to know what happens at your end since in ASCII and in ANSI there are definitely different symbols assigned. Can anybody help out with an explanation? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.(George Bernard Shaw) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Extended ASCII Characters
Dear TheBat! users, Sometimes I need characters like ë, ß, ü, etc. in mails. In most window programms I can use the ALT-137, ALT-225 and ALT-129, etc. key combinations for this, but in TheBat! this doesn't work. When I type ALT-129 for example all I get is a Load file menu. Why don't these standard ALT-key combinations work in TheBat!, and how can I add extended ASCII to my e-mails using in TheBat! ? Thank you very much in advance for any answer ! Jint -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Jint, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:20:01 +0100 GMT (15/01/02, 00:20 +0800 GMT), Jint Nijman wrote: JN Sometimes I need characters like ë, ß, ü, etc. in mails. In most window programms I can use JN the ALT-137, ALT-225 and ALT-129, etc. key combinations for this, but in TheBat! this doesn't JN work. When I type ALT-129 for example all I get is a Load file menu. It works correctly over here: alt-129: alt-137: alt-225: á alt-128: (my current favourite) alt-235: ë alt-223: ß alt-252: ü (The three examples of your text above). JN Why don't these standard ALT-key combinations work in TheBat!, I assume that many keycombos (like alt-129) are occupied by another program currently running on your machine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a police officer in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, suspects a couple is having sex inside a vehicle they must honk their horn three times, and wait two minutes before being allowed to approach the scene. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Jint, 14. januar 2002, 17:20:01, you wrote: JN Sometimes I need characters like ë, ß, ü, etc. in mails. In most window programms I can use JN the ALT-137, ALT-225 and ALT-129, etc. key combinations for this, but in TheBat! this doesn't JN work. When I type ALT-129 for example all I get is a Load file menu. Alt-129: ü Alt-137: ë Alt-225: ß Works fine here. BTW: next time don't start a new thread by replying to a message in old thread, as many people may overlook it. Press Alt1 in the main window to see what I mean. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] The effectiveness of a telephone conversation is in inverse proportion to the time spent on it. -- Parkinson's Law of the Telephone -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:30:33 +0100 GMT (15/01/02, 00:30 +0800 GMT), Jernej Simonèiè wrote: JS Alt-129: ü JS Alt-137: ë JS Alt-225: ß On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:30:21 +0800 GMT (15/01/02, 00:30 +0800 GMT), Thomas F wrote: TF alt-235: ë TF alt-223: ß TF alt-252: ü What's going on? Fourdimensional overlap, because we sent our messages in exactly the same minute? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ad: Stock up and save. Limit: one. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Jint, On 14 Jan 2002 at 5:20:01 pm you wrote (at least in part): JN Sometimes I need characters like ë, ß, ü, etc. in mails. In most window programms I can use JN the ALT-137, ALT-225 and ALT-129, etc. key combinations for this, but in TheBat! this doesn't JN work. When I type ALT-129 for example all I get is a Load file menu. JN Why don't these standard ALT-key combinations work in TheBat!, and how can I add extended JN ASCII to my JN e-mails using in TheBat! ? Make sure 'NumLock' is switched on when trying this!!! -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Never try to catch two frogs with one hand. -- Chinese Proverb -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hi Jint, JN Sometimes I need characters like ë, ß, ü, etc. in mails. In most JN window programms I can use the ALT-137, ALT-225 and ALT-129, etc. JN key combinations for this, but in TheBat! this doesn't work. When JN I type ALT-129 for example all I get is a Load file menu. Num lock key ;-) -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/28) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Peter wrote: Make sure 'NumLock' is switched on when trying this!!! Thank you, that helps a lot !! But I'm really surprized to learn this. I really would consider myself a (very) experienced PC user (I used to write software) but I was not aware of this feature. In programs like WordPad (Write) or NotePad and other programs it doesn't make a difference if NumLock is on or off. But this trick also works for Lotus Notes and Microsoft Word ! Why do different programs behave differently regarding NumLock and ALT=key combinations ? Strange, I guess you're never to old to learn something !!! Thanks a lot for solving this problem. No I can finally write Citroën correctly (in TheBat!). regards, Jint -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Jint, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:03:40 +0100GMT (14-1-02, 18:03 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: Make sure 'NumLock' is switched on when trying this!!! JN In programs like WordPad (Write) or NotePad and other programs it JN doesn't make a difference if NumLock is on or off. But this JN trick also works for Lotus Notes and Microsoft Word ! JN Why do different programs behave differently regarding NumLock and JN ALT=key combinations ? The operating system (or the keyboard driver) translates it, but when a program wants to react to hotkeys (or whatever you call them) they have to do some keyboard mapping for themselves. I suppose this has something to do with that. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Monday, January 14, 2002, 4:30:21 PM, Thomas F wrote: alt-128: (my current favourite) --- After the last thread on euro symbols and other extended characters, I followed one of the links to learn that the AltGr key on my (UK) keyboard has more purpose than just to fill the space to the right of the space key :) AltGr+4 = AltGr + a vowel gives that vowel with an acute accent. So, AltGr+e = é, AltGr+E = É, AltGr+a = á, etc. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Geoff!
On 14 Jan 2002 at 7:17:40 pm you wrote:
After the last thread on euro symbols and other extended characters, I
followed one of the links to learn that the AltGr key on my (UK)
keyboard has more purpose than just to fill the space to the right of
the space key :)
AltGr+4 =
Hey, part of my question already answered. :-)
AltGr + a vowel gives that vowel with an acute accent. So,
AltGr+e = é, AltGr+E = É, AltGr+a = á, etc.
On a German keyboard those don't do anything. Only AltGr+
+ ~
q @
2 ²
3 ³
7 {
8 [
9 ]
0 }
ß* \
m µ
have an effect. Note that you can also use Ctrl+Alt instead of
AltGr.
*This one is tricky on any non-German keyboard, it's the key next to
0 on the alpha-numerical pad; as are all keys mentioned.
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Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Thomas! On 14 Jan 2002 at 5:30:21 pm you wrote: It works correctly over here: alt-129: ü alt-137: ë alt-225: á ß alt-128: (my current favourite) Ç alt-235: ë Ù alt-223: ß _ alt-252: ü ³ With that numbers (as you gave them) I get what you see above. They are ASCII. For ANSI you'll need a leading 0 (see below in same order as above): á ë ß ü BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? Questions, queries and enquiries. When answered, new arise. No man is ever satisfied Until he lays his head Down Into the cold Earthen chamber. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Beauty is only skin deep. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
On 14 January 2002 at 18:41 Dierk wrote: BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? United Kingdom keyboards are Europhiles and AltGr-4 does it (your 'right Alt' is our 'AltGr') : (Switching to the US layout, AltGr-4 doesn't do anything; Alt-0128 produces the euro symbol). Alastair -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Dierk, den 14 januari 2002, 19:41, you wrote: DH Hello Thomas! DH On 14 Jan 2002 at 5:30:21 pm you wrote: Snip DH BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? DH Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then DH do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? It's the same with the swedish keyboard AltGr+e = -- Lennart -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
On 14 Jan 2002, 12:41:11 pm, Dierk Haasis wrote: It works correctly over here: alt-129: ü alt-137: ë alt-225: á ß alt-128: (my current favourite) Ç alt-235: ë Ù alt-223: ß _ alt-252: ü ³ With that numbers (as you gave them) I get what you see above. They are ASCII. For ANSI you'll need a leading 0 (see below in same order as above): á ë ß ü BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? I sure am feeling left out, because I do all my e-mailing on a laptop, have no numeric pad and none of this works. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Dierk,
14. januar 2002, 20:07:18, you wrote:
DH On a German keyboard those don't do anything. Only AltGr+
snip
Well, here's the list for Slovenian keyboard:
1~ 2 3^ 4 5 6 7` 8 9 0 ? +
Q\ W| E F[ G] K L V@
B{ N} M
^ ^ ^ ^
] on US keyb. \ on US keyb.
[ on US keyboard on US keyboard
Most of the characters in 1st line are used for accents - AltGr+?, o =
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Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:41:11 +0100GMT (14-1-02, 19:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DH BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? DH Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then DH do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? Works with a Dutch keyboard too and even on my Dutch Win98 thinking it has an American keyboard. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Extended ASCII Characters
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:41:11 +0100GMT (14-1-02, 19:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DH BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Forget my previous message I do it with Right Alt5 (the 5 on the alphanumerical part of the keyboard.) Read your message with my eyes closed. :-( -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Extended ASCII Characters
Hi Dierk, BTW, the EURO sign, can you get at it by pressing the right Alt+e? Or is this only feasible with a German keyboard layout? And how then do other EURO countries do it? Or Americans? Or ...? AltGr+e = with Spanish keyboard. Miguel -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
