Re[2]: Failed sending messages to this group
Hello Marck, Thursday, January 8, 2004, 11:13:28 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Thomas, MDP @8-Jan-2004, 17:28 -0300 (08-Jan 20:28 UK time) Thomas Martin [TM] MDP in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TheBat!UDL: MDP (another on escaped) TM strange things happen. Sometimes i can't send messages to this group, TM sometimes yes. Ideas? TM ,- [ Report ] TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM | SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: TM | host draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8]: 550 Syntax error in 'To' header: TM | malformed address: on TheBat! UDL List [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not follow TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] : TM | failing address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TheBat! UDL List TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM `- MDP Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email MDP address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part MDP of the address line. This is creating very bad address lines. The MDP clue is in the report. It's pretty clear that it is wrong and pretty MDP clear exactly *what* is wrong. Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part of the address line. I am a beginner I don't understand the meaning of this sentence Thanks for help -- Best regards, Jeanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failed sending messages to this group
Hi Jean, @11-Jan-2004, 17:04 +0100 (11-Jan 16:04 UK time) Jean Site [JS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part of the address line. JS I am a beginner I don't understand the meaning of this sentence Many of us old timers here use an address/name mangler to get messages submitted to lists looking more appropriate. TB, by default, when replying writes to the name of the author at the reply address required. When you replied to me, your message was addressed to Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Now, many purists say this is bad, wrong and irresponsible. It implies that my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This can cause offence and mistakes. These purists address their own on-list replies without any real name attributions at all. I find that even more confusing. It's nice to see to whom a reply has been directed before reading it. The compromise solution many of us use is to 'mangle' the real name as I have done yours to read Jean Site on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This makes it perfectly clear that the email address is not yours but that the reply is addressed to you as an individual and, more specifically, as a member of the TBUDL. This is usually done in a macro, used in reply templates for a specific address book groups, namely that used to hold the addresses of mailing lists to which I subscribe. The macro I use looks like this: %REM='List TO replacement macro by Marck'%- %_addr='%ABOFROMNamePrefix(%ABOFROMName(%OFROMNAME))%- on %ABOREPLYHANDLE(%ABOREPLYFIRSTNAME) %OREPLYADDR'%- %TO=''%TO='%_addr'%- I configure my address book list entries to have List as the surname and the list name as the forename. I then put a short form of the list name in the Handle entry. The macro set above also makes reference to anything I already know about the real name of the author in my address book before relying on whatever nickname they may have used on the list. Does this help? -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Failed sending messages to this group
Hello TB List, strange things happen. Sometimes i can't send messages to this group, sometimes yes. Ideas? ,- [ Report ] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: | host draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8]: 550 Syntax error in 'To' header: | malformed address: on TheBat! UDL List [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not follow | [EMAIL PROTECTED] : | failing address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TheBat! UDL List | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.03 Beta/28 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failed sending messages to this group
Hi Thomas, @8-Jan-2004, 17:28 -0300 (08-Jan 20:28 UK time) Thomas Martin [TM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TheBat!UDL: TM strange things happen. Sometimes i can't send messages to this group, TM sometimes yes. Ideas? TM ,- [ Report ] TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM | SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: TM | host draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8]: 550 Syntax error in 'To' header: TM | malformed address: on TheBat! UDL List [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not follow TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] : TM | failing address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TheBat! UDL List TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM `- Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the . This is creating very bad address lines. The clue is in the report. It's pretty clear that it is wrong and pretty clear exactly *what* is wrong. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/28 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failed sending messages to this group
Hi Thomas, @8-Jan-2004, 17:28 -0300 (08-Jan 20:28 UK time) Thomas Martin [TM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TheBat!UDL: (another on escaped) TM strange things happen. Sometimes i can't send messages to this group, TM sometimes yes. Ideas? TM ,- [ Report ] TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM | SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: TM | host draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8]: 550 Syntax error in 'To' header: TM | malformed address: on TheBat! UDL List [EMAIL PROTECTED] may not follow TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] : TM | failing address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TheBat! UDL List TM | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM `- Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part of the address line. This is creating very bad address lines. The clue is in the report. It's pretty clear that it is wrong and pretty clear exactly *what* is wrong. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/28 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failed sending messages to this group
Hello Marck, on Thursday, 8. January 2004, at 22:13:28 [GMT +] you wrote: Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part of the address line. Will do so, but this only happens in _this_ list. I have in total 12 other, never had a problem on these others . -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.03 Beta/28 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failed sending messages to this group
Hi Thomas, @8-Jan-2004, 19:38 -0300 (08-Jan 22:38 UK time) Thomas Martin [TM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Please fix your name mangling macro. It keeps using the email address instead of the name to form the '[Name] on TheBat! UDL' part of the address line. TM Will do so, but this only happens in _this_ list. I have in TM total 12 other, never had a problem on these others . It will happen on every list you where end up with this as an address line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on listname [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a very bad violation of the RFCs. It happened to someone else recently on the SecureBat list. No list server in its right mind should accept a message addressed like that! If other lists accept your postings then I would assume that those messages aren't being given completely RFC invalid address lines. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/28 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
