Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 1:58:21 AM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:

TF Hello Miles,

TF On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:27 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 10:27 +0800 GMT),
TF Miles Alexander wrote:

MA   If   an   incoming  transaction does not match *any* filters, I want
MA   to:

MA   * Flag it as found (possibly)

TF Make one one filter at the end, which does ntohing else but flag the
TF message.

MA   * Leave it on the server
MA   * If there are unknown transactions identified (read: spam and such)
MA   then  I want to automatically bring up the Dispatch to Server option
MA   so that I can ascertain what to do with the new email.

TF These feature can only be set per-account, not per-message. And also
TF not by filters.

MA   I  have  breezed through the manual (designed for experienced users)

TF Please advise where you got it, as I am interested in a copy.


Not  certain  if you are simply making light of the manual thing but I
copied  the online manual and created a .doc file for Word use. If you
would  like  a copy of that, I can ZIP it and send it to your email of
choice.

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Re[3]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Miles,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 6:08:30 AM, was when,
Miles typed the following:

MA Hello Thomas,

MA Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 1:58:21 AM, was when,
MA Thomas typed the following:

TF Hello Miles,

TF On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:27 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 10:27 +0800 GMT),
TF Miles Alexander wrote:

MA   If   an   incoming  transaction does not match *any* filters, I want
MA   to:

MA   * Flag it as found (possibly)

TF Make one one filter at the end, which does ntohing else but flag the
TF message.

MA   * Leave it on the server
MA   * If there are unknown transactions identified (read: spam and such)
MA   then  I want to automatically bring up the Dispatch to Server option
MA   so that I can ascertain what to do with the new email.

TF These feature can only be set per-account, not per-message. And also
TF not by filters.

MA   I  have  breezed through the manual (designed for experienced users)

TF Please advise where you got it, as I am interested in a copy.


MA Not  certain  if you are simply making light of the manual thing but I
MA copied  the online manual and created a .doc file for Word use. If you
MA would  like  a copy of that, I can ZIP it and send it to your email of
MA choice.


I  guess  to  sum it up, what I am looking for (when all other filters
are implemented) is an ELSE filter that DOES NOT DOWNLOAD.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:24:01 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 18:24 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA I  guess  to  sum it up, what I am looking for (when all other filters
MA are implemented) is an ELSE filter that DOES NOT DOWNLOAD.

Try to delete in your replies what you is unnecessary. Read the
welcoming mesages regarding quotes. Fullquotes cause most people to
not read a posting. I read yours only because I caught my name with
one blinking eye. Thanks.

To your questions:

1.) An *else* filter is a filter that catches every message that has
not been caught by another filter, right? So, make it the last one in
the filter list, as the filters are being processed sequentially.

2.) Incoming filters work after download. Therefore, it is not
possible to un-download a message by an incoming filter.

3.) Selective download filters download selectively. Maybe you want to
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Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 10:42:19 AM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:

Thomas,

So, what you are telling me is that the Incoming filters are processed
in a hierarchy and putting my *else* filter at the bottom of that list
(thus the Move Up and Move Down feature) will get me what I want?

The I will name this filter -- appropriately -- my Else filter.



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Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 10:42:19 AM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:

Selective downloads:

Yes:  this seems to be a very good way to resolve the situation but do
I need to imply (within the window) the following format?:

String: [Person One], Location: [Sender],   Presence: [No]
String: [beer],   Location: [Text], Presence: [No]
String: [orange], Location: [Anywhere], Presence: [No]


What  I  would  like  to  do is have a list of signal strings that are
valid but use the Presence=No syntax. Also, just to make sure that you
understand  what  I am leading to: The syntax above -- including field
descriptions and values goes *into* the signal strings window?

Hope this is clear. :)


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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:07:39 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 23:07 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA So, what you are telling me is that the Incoming filters are processed
MA in a hierarchy and putting my *else* filter at the bottom of that list
MA (thus the Move Up and Move Down feature) will get me what I want?

It will ensure that it is processed last, yes. :-) However, you also
wanted the message to be kept on the server - this is only possible to
seet your account settings.

MA The I will name this filter -- appropriately -- my Else filter.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:18:28 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 23:18 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA Selective downloads:

MA Yes:  this seems to be a very good way to resolve the situation but do
MA I need to imply (within the window) the following format?:

MA String: [Person One], Location: [Sender],   Presence: [No]

No, this won't work. The Selective Download Filter downloads all
message headers and then processes only these. The signal string must
be matched exactly *in the headers* (so Text and Anywhere won't
apply), and then you can use the options under the Advanced tab.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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MA So, what you are telling me is that the Incoming filters are
MA processed in a hierarchy and putting my *else* filter at the
MA bottom of that list (thus the Move Up and Move Down feature) will
MA get me what I want?

Look at it this way. For each message, starting from the first filter
at the top and working downwards, a matching filter is sought. As soon
as a matching filter rule is found, the filter actions are applied.
Matching filter rules for that particular message are no longer sought
further down the filter rules list unless:

a) the option, 'continue processing with other filters' is enabled in
the matching filter rule's options

*and*

b) the matching filter rule doesn't move the message from the Inbox to
another folder.

MA The I will name this filter -- appropriately -- my Else filter.

If you wish a filter to be applied by default to messages which aren't
filtered by other filter rules, then create the filter and place it at
the bottom of the filter rules list and make it applicable to all
possible messages (string 'e' in Kludges for example).

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Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 12:23:21 PM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:


TF No, this won't work. The Selective Download Filter downloads all
TF message headers and then processes only these. The signal string must
TF be matched exactly *in the headers* (so Text and Anywhere won't
TF apply), and then you can use the options under the Advanced tab.

Got it working with header info from an external text file. I like the
way it works. I have chosen to ignore all that do not match and then I
can kick off the Dispatch to view those that did not make it.

Cool.



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Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 12:17:37 PM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:

TF Hello Miles,

TF On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:07:39 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 23:07 +0800 GMT),
TF Miles Alexander wrote:

Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.

I will add this to my collection of quotes!

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:21:13 -0400 GMT (24/09/2001, 02:21 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA I will add this to my collection of quotes!

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Re[2]: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 23, 2001, 2:21:07 PM, was when,
Thomas typed the following:

TF Hello Miles,

TF On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:21:13 -0400 GMT (24/09/2001, 02:21 +0800 GMT),
TF Miles Alexander wrote:

MA I will add this to my collection of quotes!

TF Cool. (I stole it somewhere. g)


Thomas,

If you would like a few hundred (each in text file format), I can send
you via ZIP. Just let me know.

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Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-22 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello TheBat,

  Using the K.I.S.S. factor, please tell me how to solve the following
  problem:

  If   an   incoming  transaction does not match *any* filters, I want
  to:

  * Flag it as found (possibly)
  * Leave it on the server
  * If there are unknown transactions identified (read: spam and such)
  then  I want to automatically bring up the Dispatch to Server option
  so that I can ascertain what to do with the new email.

  I  have  breezed through the manual (designed for experienced users)
  and  have some faint ideas but before I go blindly into the bat cave
  it would be nice to hear from those that have dwelled longer.
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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-22 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:27 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 10:27 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA   If   an   incoming  transaction does not match *any* filters, I want
MA   to:

MA   * Flag it as found (possibly)

Make one one filter at the end, which does ntohing else but flag the
message.

MA   * Leave it on the server
MA   * If there are unknown transactions identified (read: spam and such)
MA   then  I want to automatically bring up the Dispatch to Server option
MA   so that I can ascertain what to do with the new email.

These feature can only be set per-account, not per-message. And also
not by filters.

MA   I  have  breezed through the manual (designed for experienced users)

Please advise where you got it, as I am interested in a copy.

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