Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-10-02 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:05:23 +0200 (2:05 PM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

> Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [29.9.2004, 7:50:03 PM]:
DG>> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:03:30 +0200 (4:03 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

>>> is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as described (in
>>> Read messages). It works only when I start it manually. When I
>>> mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter sets only some
>>> of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all messages remain
>>> read, allthough the condition of the filter is to mark as unread
>>> all messages with status read (+ some extra conditins).

DG>> This might work for you:

DG>> 1. If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit
DG>> TheBat!, create a file for that purpose. Let's call the folder
DG>> SavedJunk. (If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when
DG>> you exit TheBat!, skip this step.)

DG>> 2. Highlight the Junk mail (not the SavedJunk folder).

> No, no, thats OK, my Junk remains in Junk folder (actually, it
> remains there for one day), but thats not important. Important thing
> is that I've set up a filter (a discussed in previous messages -
> Read), which will mark all messages inside JUNK folder as unread,
> _if_ their status is read and Recipient is one of my emails.

See (1) below.

(2) See if this might work automatically:

Use a Read messages filter with it's source folder set to JUNK. Move
all of the messages that you want to mark unread into another folder
(let's call it KnownJunk) and mark the message as unread.


> So far, it works only if I manually refilter JUNK folder (although
> the filter is set to active).

(1) Have you set the filter as follows?

Rule is:

 [x] Active

 [ ] Manual only

If that isn't the problem, consider not having the filter mark the
messages "Unread", instead consider these possibilities: 

  a) Use the filter to apply a color group (let's call it Green)
 established, for this purpose, as a partial simulation "unread"
 for this special case. (Possibly you could filter all Green mail
 into a virtual folder into which all your other Unread mail is filtered.)

b) See (2) above.

> Then, if I mark all messages inside JUNK folder to read, after
> exiting The Bat! and restarting it again, all the messages in JUNK
> folder remain read. But I thought they should be refiltered...

Just a thought:

How about filtering




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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-29 Thread Nikola Knezevic
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [29.9.2004, 7:50:03 PM]:
DG> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:03:30 +0200 (4:03 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

>> is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as
>> described (in Read messages). It works only when I start it
>> manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter
>> sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all
>> messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter is to
>> mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra
>> conditins).

DG> This might work for you:

DG> 1. If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit
DG>TheBat!, create a file for that purpose. Let's call the folder
DG>SavedJunk. (If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when
DG>you exit TheBat!, skip this step.)

DG> 2. Highlight the Junk mail (not the SavedJunk folder).

No, no, thats OK, my Junk remains in Junk folder (actually, it remains
there for one day), but thats not important.
Important thing is that I've set up a filter (a discussed in previous
messages - Read), which will mark all messages inside JUNK folder as
unread, _if_ their status is read and Recipient is one of my emails.
So far, it works only if I manually refilter JUNK folder (although the
filter is set to active). Then, if I mark all messages inside JUNK
folder to read, after exiting The Bat! and restarting it again, all the
messages in JUNK folder remain read. But I thought they should be
refiltered...

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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-29 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:03:30 +0200 (4:03 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

> is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as
> described (in Read messages). It works only when I start it
> manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK as read (because filter
> sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and return, all
> messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter is to
> mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra
> conditins).

This might work for you:

1. If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when you exit
   TheBat!, create a file for that purpose. Let's call the folder
   SavedJunk. (If you want your Junk mail to remain in a folder when
   you exit TheBat!, skip this step.)

2. Highlight the Junk mail (not the SavedJunk folder).

   TheBat! => Folder => Properties

  [x] Maximum number of stored messages is 0

  [ ] Keep messages in base on exit

  [x] Remove old messages[x] compress folder

  If you created SavedJunk

  [Copy to]

[x] SavedJunk




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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-29 Thread Nikola Knezevic
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [28.9.2004, 11:38:32 PM]:
>> But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method,
>> I've made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder
>> with my email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and
>> today it isn't working... :)

>> BTW, what's the purpose of "Source folder" in filter conditions?


DG> A selectable Source folder allows messages, that already have been
DG> filtered and moved to any folder, to be filtered again by a Replied
DG> filter or a Read filter. The Replied or Read filtering becomes more
DG> efficient (faster), because only messages that already have been
DG> recognized by other filters will be filtered again.

Thanks.
BTW, is this a bug or a feature. I've set up a filter as described (in
Read messages).
It works only when I start it manually. When I mark all messages in JUNK
as read (because filter sets only some of them as unread), exit Bat! and
return, all messages remain read, allthough the condition of the filter
is to mark as unread all messages with status read (+ some extra
conditins).

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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-28 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:55:01 +0200 (10:55 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

> Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]:

>>>   So, how to write filter which will append every message coming
>>>   in JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt?

>>>   I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it
>>>   doesn't do its job. I've even set to add colour group, just to
>>>   see how it works, but nothing happens, until I manually refilter
>>>   JUNK folder.

DG>> Have you tried:

DG>> 1. TheBat! => Options => Prefences => Antispam

DG>>  [x] Mark stored junk mail as read.

DG>> 2. TheBat! => Account => Sorting Office/Filters => Read messages

DG>>  Set up your filter up in the Read messages folder.

> OK, this works, but it beats me why the method using Incoming mail
> doesn't work as expected (or my expectations are wrong).

> But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method,
> I've made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder
> with my email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and
> today it isn't working... :)

> BTW, what's the purpose of "Source folder" in filter conditions?

The Source folder is fixed as the Inbox for Incoming mail filters.

The Source folder is fixed as the Outbox for Outgoing mail filters.

The Source folder for Replied and Read filters is selectable.

A selectable Source folder allows messages, that already have been
filtered and moved to any folder, to be filtered again by a Replied
filter or a Read filter. The Replied or Read filtering becomes more
efficient (faster), because only messages that already have been
recognized by other filters will be filtered again.


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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-28 Thread Nikola Knezevic
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]:

>>   So, how to write filter which will append every message coming in
>>   JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt?

>>   I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it
>>   doesn't do its job. I've even set to add colour group, just to see
>>   how it works, but nothing happens, until I manually refilter JUNK
>>   folder.

DG> Have you tried:

DG> 1. TheBat! => Options => Prefences => Antispam

DG>  [x] Mark stored junk mail as read.

DG> 2. TheBat! => Account => Sorting Office/Filters => Read messages

DG>  Set up your filter up in the Read messages folder.

OK, this works, but it beats me why the method using Incoming mail
doesn't work as expected (or my expectations are wrong).

But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method, I've
made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder with my
email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and today it
isn't working... :)

BTW, what's the purpose of "Source folder" in filter conditions?



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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-26 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Nikola

> Hi,
>   I have several account, one of them being hosted on Linux machine,
>   where I put CRM114 to filter the mail.

A filter named CRM114 - I love it!

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Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-26 Thread Nikola Knezevic
Hi,
  I have several account, one of them being hosted on Linux machine,
  where I put CRM114 to filter the mail. It isn't perfect, so it misses
  a couple of spam messages, which are later picked by BayesIt. Well,
  BayesIt moves those messages to common JUNK folder, which is OK. But I
  need one more thing, and thats to append all those messages coming
  from that account to one file.

  So, how to write filter which will append every message coming in JUNK
  from account tesla to file spam.txt?

  I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it doesn't
  do its job. I've even set to add colour group, just to see how it
  works, but nothing happens, until I manually refilter JUNK folder.

  Thanks.

  PS. In case you wonder why I need this, its because I have to retrain
  CRM on false negatives...

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