Re[2]: Garbage filter(s)

2002-01-01 Thread John E.

This is a great idea!  I went to do this, but can't find any
information on creating a key macro other than the system hot keys.
Can you point me in the right direction?  I searched the help on Key
and Macro, but didn't find anything that seemed to be what I should be
looking for.

  Thanks,
  John


s On Thursday, December 20, 2001 , Rick Sovitzky wrote the
s following in regards to: [Garbage filter(s)]

s  Here is what I did:

s  1. Create a address book group: To Delete

s  2. Create a key macro to move the sender to the To Delete

s  3. Create a filter that that deletes the message if the
s  sender is in the To Delete

s  They can only get me once.

s .


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Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Rick Sovitzky

Is it better to have one filter per junk sender, or have one with many
alternates?  Also, in the Sender string, can I have just a segment of
the email address (blah.com), or do i need the whole thing - @ and
all?  Or is there where regular expressions come in?

Thanks...

 Rick


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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread syv

On Thursday, December 20, 2001 , Rick Sovitzky wrote the
following in regards to: [Garbage filter(s)]

 Here is what I did:

 1. Create a address book group: To Delete

 2. Create a key macro to move the sender to the To Delete

 3. Create a filter that that deletes the message if the
 sender is in the To Delete

 They can only get me once.

.

RS Is it better to have one filter per junk sender, or have one with many
RS alternates?  Also, in the Sender string, can I have just a segment of
RS the email address (blah.com), or do i need the whole thing - @ and
RS all?  Or is there where regular expressions come in?

RS Thanks...

RS  Rick



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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 20 Dec 2001, 7:14:08 AM, Rick Sovitzky wrote:

 Also, in the Sender string, can I have just a segment of the email
 address (blah.com)

yes

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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Rick,

Thursday, December 20, 2001, 2:14:08 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

RS Is it better to have one filter per junk sender, or have one with
RS many alternates?  Also, in the Sender string, can I have just a
RS segment of the email address (blah.com), or do i need the whole
RS thing - @ and all?  Or is there where regular expressions come in?

  One filter with many alternates is the best solution, less work and
  look neater and works just as fine as several filters.

  As the spammers changes their e-mailaddresses all the time, I prefer
  to filter on a domain basis. I look at the headers in the mail
  (Ctr-Shift-K), find the domain where the mail first originated, put
  this string into the Strings field, and select Kludges for location.
  You do not need the whole e-mailaddress and no regular expressions
  either.


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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Ottar.

At 11:11 AM on Thursday, December 20, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'Garbage filter(s)':

Ottar [...] As the spammers changes their e-mailaddresses
Ottar all the time, I prefer to filter on a domain basis. I
Ottar look at the headers in the mail (Ctr-Shift-K), find
Ottar the domain where the mail first originated, put this
Ottar string into the Strings field, and select Kludges for
Ottar location.

  This sounds like a good system but I have 2 questions:

  1 is it possible that legitimate mail could come these
  domain names?

  2 could you use this msg as an example of which domain
  you would select to filter on?

  TIA

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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello syv.

At 10:01 AM on Thursday, December 20, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'Garbage filter(s)':

syv  1. Create a address book group: To Delete

syv  2. Create a key macro to move the sender to the To Delete

syv  3. Create a filter that that deletes the message if the
syv  sender is in the To Delete

syv  They can only get me once.

  Hmmm. Another novel approach. In view of the fact that
  spammers change their addresses, do you find this system
  is working well for you?

  I must get 20-50 spam msgs daily on 4 accounts  have been
  filtering in groups: sex, finance, travel, medical, etc.
  with specific text phrases. It gets most of them but there
  are always new ones, of course. None of them get deleted,
  just dumped into a SPAM Trash folder. Every once in while
  I look in there to see if they are all legit spam. Hasn't
  failed me yet.

  But I'm constantly looking for ways to improve ways to rid
  myself of this disgusting side of email.

  TIA

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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 20 Dec 2001, 2:48:31 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 This sounds like a good system but I have 2 questions:

   1 is it possible that legitimate mail could come these
   domain names?

   2 could you use this msg as an example of which domain
   you would select to filter on?

I wondered that too. I get lots of hotmail spam, but my son also
e-mails me from there, as do some clients and prospective clients.

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Re[2]: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Alastair Scott

On 20 December 2001 at 8:54 pm Jan wrote:

   But I'm constantly looking for ways to improve ways to rid
   myself of this disgusting side of email.

I get few at home thanks to careful use of email addresses,

As for the work ones (I've had the same email address for 8 years and,
in the early days, used to post to Usenet without disguising the email
address ... !), I get about 90% of them by a simple filter:

email address, Recipient, No - Delete the message

(as they do not have email address in the header) and putting all the
filters for mailing list posts (the only other type of email with
email address not in the header) _before_ that one, so all incoming
emails from mailing lists are hived off to folders before the spam
filter is hit.

The other 10%, which _are_ sent directly to the email address, are not
really possible to filter out without elaborate matches on subjects
and so on. As life is too short for such poking around I delete them.

(En passant, has anyone noticed that spam sent directly to the email
address [in To:] is becoming more common? A year ago it was 1%, if
that, of incoming spam).

Alastair


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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Jan,

Thursday, December 20, 2001, 9:48:31 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

JR   1 is it possible that legitimate mail could come these domain
JR   names?

Of course it is possible and a danger. I have been tempted to filter
out the whole of jp but maybe someone the will send me real mail
someday. I check the spam folder now and then, and I have never got
legitimate mail from these domains.

JR   2 could you use this msg as an example of which domain
JR   you would select to filter on?

That was more tricky than most of the spam mail
cc1862326-a - In think I would try this.

  

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Re: Garbage filter(s)

2001-12-20 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Dwight,

Thursday, December 20, 2001, 9:59:59 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

DAC I wondered that too. I get lots of hotmail spam, but my son also
DAC e-mails me from there, as do some clients and prospective
DAC clients.

  If the mail is sent from an legitimate hotmail account, I send a
  massage to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but much of the spam with hotmail
  mailaddresses have faked the email adress and the headers reveal
  that they originated elsewhere. I would never block all mail from
  hotmail.

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