Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Allie, On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:36:17 -0500 GMT (24/03/2004, 06:36 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: TF If *you* are not a power user, I'm a bloody beginner! AM Actually, I used Forte' Agent for mail prior to using TB!. I was quite AM content at the time except for the need for a little better filtering. I used Eudora for one account, and Netscape Mail for the other. I was not content. A friend showed me TB, and I reluctantly tried it. And got hooked. AM I did start using TB! as a rather undemanding user. :) Really. :) I was demanding. And TB complied. :-) AM However, needs do change with easily attainable functionality and AM power giving rise to new ideas. Over here, it was more like: I want *this*. And the reply was: just do it *that* way. Wow. AM Not to mention how much you learn from those on these and other AM lists. This I can confirm. I have a much clearer idea how email works than I used to, and that is thanks to the TB lists. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Take notice: when this sign is under water the road is impassable. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hallo Paul, On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:58:49 -0500GMT (23-3-04, 0:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PC wonderful! and deleting those will keep a couple of blank lines out of PC my posts!!G You can avoid blank lines with the %- macro and in this case as they're headers you want to add, you can place the macro at the very bottom of your template, since TB skips trailing blank lines. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Gmane TB lists volume down?)
Hello Marck, On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:00:37 + GMT (23/03/2004, 04:00 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Sorry about this - but unless we point out all the broken rules MDP as they get broken, the following things happen: MDP1) The natives get restless. Native Yup. /Native MDP4) The end of life and the universe as we know it. ROTFL! The best reason ever for enforcing ML rules. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Amuse yourself for endless hours by hooking a camcorder to your TV and then pointing it at the screen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Allie, On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:54:16 -0500 GMT (23/03/2004, 05:54 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: SK I'm hardly a power user of email, so may well not need many of the SK advanced features of the bat. AM I didn't particularly consider myself a power user either. If *you* are not a power user, I'm a bloody beginner! AM I welcome you to the list and am sure that in time, you'll discover AM that there are things that you never really thought possible that will AM be useful to you and easily achieved with TB!. Let me echo this. But then, TB is still a very good email client for those who don't need all the power it has inside. My mother, who was moving from AOL to a POP provider and didn't want to use MS Virus Express, heavily loves TB (even though she went back to AOL at a later time, now having two accounts: one in TB and one with AOL). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My mother wants grandchildren, so I said, Mom, go for it! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
AM I welcome you to the list and am sure that in AMtime, you'll discover snip Thanks for the welcome :-) Some of the features that I would, at this time at least, consider advanced sound way above my intelect but time will tell -- Stef __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Tuesday, March 23, 2004, 7:32 AM, you wrote: PC wonderful! and deleting those will keep a couple of blank lines out of PC my posts!!G RO You can avoid blank lines with the %- macro and in this case as RO they're headers you want to add, you can place the macro at the very RO bottom of your template, since TB skips trailing blank lines. thanks! Marck had pointed that out to me earlier ( the %- ) when I had 2 blanks lines at the beginning of my messages ( or was it Allie... Leif ?) and when I went to take those lines out of my templates, indeed I did have the %- on one of them. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: AM I didn't particularly consider myself a power user either. TF If *you* are not a power user, I'm a bloody beginner! Actually, I used Forte' Agent for mail prior to using TB!. I was quite content at the time except for the need for a little better filtering. I was not using Templates. I never really cared for them either since I didn't know a template structure as TB!'s existed and thought the usual template offerings weren't really worth the effort. I never used PGP, never ran my own mailserver, the works. I did start using TB! as a rather undemanding user. :) Really. :) However, needs do change with easily attainable functionality and power giving rise to new ideas. Not to mention how much you learn from those on these and other lists. You decide to try some of the things you hear and the rest, as you know, is history. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hi all as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say Hi. I'm currently trialing the bat , bout 17/18 days into the trial, and finding it quite an adjustment from the loveable Mr. Gate's (the malware writers best friend) product. Am finding it confusing and little as being user friendly/intuative. So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb newbie questions :-) BTW what is Hmane ?? Thanks guys Stef Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hallo stefan, On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:46:50 -0800 (PST)GMT (22-3-04, 19:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SK as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie SK members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say SK Hi. Welcome. SK BTW what is Hmane ?? Gmane is a gateway that enables people to read this list with their news client. SK Note: forwarded message attached. Attachments don't work on this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 1:46 PM, you wrote: sk Hi all from Georgia, that's Hey Y'all G sk as if by magic a couple of you post that few newbie sk members...wellhere's one - so I thought I'd say sk Hi. welcome, this is a great forum, lots of nice members, lots of good information, and friendly moderators! sk I'm currently trialing the bat , bout 17/18 days into sk the trial, and finding it quite an adjustment from sk the loveable Mr. Gate's (the malware writers best sk friend) product. most people here will totally agree about OL and OE. sk Am finding it confusing and little as being user sk friendly/intuative. TB is very powerful, yet if you just take it as installed, it will work just fine. sk So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb sk newbie questions :-) we all learn by answering questions ( at least I DO:) sometimes there is a better way to do things! sk BTW what is Hmane ?? you mean Gmane? Gmane is a newsgroup feed, thebat is not only a list, but also can be read with a newsreader, if you subscribe to gmane. you can read about gmane here: http://gmane.org/ or read some of the TBUDL archives, I know there was a HUGE thread on gmane just recently. We only got added to gmane this month. welcome aboard, and ask away! and don't ask ME, I'm just a user here, not a moderator! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-16 (20.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Thanks for the Welcome Martin and others. I'm hardly a power user of email, so may well not need many of the advanced features of the bat. It was mainly the ability to be bale to manage messages on the server and if desired deeleting them from the server that appealed to me plus I read a lot of good reports about it. Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced features as time goes on. Stef --- Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:21:35 + From: Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stefan ketola on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subject: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stefan, On 22 March 2004, 10:46 -0800 (18:46 local time) Stefan Ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SK Am finding it confusing and little as being user SK friendly/intuative. I'm sure it was the same for many of us. However, once you understand some of the _many_ features no other e-mail client comes close. At work I'm stuck with Outlook and it's a real pain... unlike TB! it doesn't work for me because it lacks the advanced filtering, templates and macros and can't handle large numbers of messages. SK So I hope you guys are ready for loads of real dumb SK newbie questions :-) Fire away! This is the best place to learn about TB! and the community is second to none! - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370/; iQA/AwUBQF9K1Dknq5PWREYNEQJpzACgj+nw192sRXYSlgRgm7oLCk3wsBQAoOZM KsqqDoBo7NBhsRLvMzZXSU/c =85OQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Dear Stefan, @22-Mar-2004, 12:44 -0800 (22-Mar 20:44 UK time) stefan ketola [SK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbul: SK Thanks for the Welcome Martin and others. In spite of the reminders of the list rules, I also bid you a hearty welcome - we're a good bunch here on the whole, honest! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hi stefan, on Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:44:02 -0800 (PST)GMT, you wrote: sk Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced sk features as time goes on. I'm sure you will. :-)) -- Cheers Peter Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. Winston Churchill Winamp currently playing: Tenacious D - Kielbasa Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Mod: Cut mark (was: Gmane TB lists volume down?)
Dear Stefan, Another posting tip for you to add to your Please include a signature delimiter in your . messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. Sorry you completely lost me there - I dont use a sig onmy Yahoo mail ? :-( __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 3:44 PM, you wrote: sk Heck you never know I may use some of the advanced sk features as time goes on. some of the advanced features I'm sure you will ove are the templates, filters and macros. If you get ANY spam at all you will love using the filters! You can use K9 or spampal or a plugin to help you with SPAM, and use the filters to handle SPAM. first, get used to the basics, read the lists, and you never know! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: sk BTW what is Hmane ?? PC you mean Gmane? Gmane is a newsgroup feed, thebat is not only a PC list, but also can be read with a newsreader, if you subscribe to PC gmane. you can read about gmane here: http://gmane.org/ The TBUDLInfo pages have been updated to include information on Gmane as it pertains to these lists. Have you seen it? The URL is in the footer of all list messages: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Stefan Ketola, [SK] wrote: SK I'm hardly a power user of email, so may well not need many of the SK advanced features of the bat. I didn't particularly consider myself a power user either. Interestingly, what attracted me to TB! right away was what some will not like and that's MicroEd, the default editor. I was seeking an editor that would easily format *e-mail* and I say *e-mail* since when writing email one has special formatting needs. With further use of the program I quickly discovered templates, something that any user of email will likely find useful. The Bat! handles these unlike any other client I've used. So simply and so effectively. IOW's, things that were previously tedious will now be easy since you can quite easily set things up in TB! to be automated, such as using specific signatures or identities or format when writing to particular individuals/groups etc. I welcome you to the list and am sure that in time, you'll discover that there are things that you never really thought possible that will be useful to you and easily achieved with TB!. Happy bat!ing ;) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 5:45 PM, you wrote: AM The TBUDLInfo pages have been updated to include information on AM Gmane as it pertains to these lists. Have you seen it? AM The URL is in the footer of all list messages: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G the gmane info is at this link: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/gmane.htm so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Dear Paul, @22-Mar-2004, 17:58 -0500 (22-Mar 22:58 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Allie: PC so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: PC %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- PC %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) PC but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? You don't need that first line anymore. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Paul Cartwright, [PC] wrote: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html PC what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G If there's some truth to that, then it would explain why so many others don't seem to read it. Does it seem overwhelming to read? A genuine question since I wrote most of it and am curious. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Paul, Monday, March 22, 2004, 3:58:06 PM, you wrote: Paul what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G Oh boy. grin Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) Paul but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? That totally depends on what you want. You do realize that the second line above will post your message to the newsgroup for 14 days right? If you never, ever, ever want it to get posted on the newserver, then you need: %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:04 PM, you wrote: Paul what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G LG Oh boy. grin I mean, really, if I wanted to READ all that stuff, why would I be here asking ( and answering) stupid questions? BG Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) Paul but I think now, that I may not need that first line anymore?? LG That totally depends on what you want. You do realize that the second LG line above will post your message to the newsgroup for 14 days right? no I didn't understand that, what are the options and how do you set them??? LG If you never, ever, ever want it to get posted on the newserver, then LG you need: LG %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0) I saw that, but it said to use one line or the other. It didn't really tell me ( did I miss it??) what either line does, so I picked to use the first line! and, to answer the question, I don't really care if my posts get mirrored to the newsgroup, since they encrypt my email address. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:02 PM, you wrote: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html PC what, you expect me to READ that stuff???G AM If there's some truth to that, then it would explain why so many AM others don't seem to read it. time is a critical factor, or lack of:) AM Does it seem overwhelming to read? A genuine question since I wrote AM most of it and am curious. I read things, when I learn of them, and need to read them. I have been following the gmane threads, and thought I had everything set, that needed to be set. And I have read those web pages numerous times IN THE PAST, didn't see a need to re-read them lately, and I don't remember anyone saying the new GMANE info was on the web page. I DO remember an email I wrote, saying that the info SHOULD maybe be put in the FAQ somewhere, then I got trout slapped by Leif, for top posting my reply asking that question ( about putting the info in the FAQ). so, there, a genuine answer! does that cover it?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
On Monday, March 22, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote: Paul so now, in my tbudl email address I have these 2 lines: Paul %SetHeader(X-Archive,encrypt)%- Paul %SetHeader(X-No-Archive,Yes) LG Ok, so you don't need anything. LG Setting the X-No-Archive to Yes means your posts will only stay on the LG newsgroup for 14 days. If you don't mind them being mirrored there, LG then you don't need to put anything as the GMane server is LG auto-encrypting the addresses for all the TB lists mirrored to it. wonderful! and deleting those will keep a couple of blank lines out of my posts!!G -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Mar2004 (4.1.357) (avast! version number) 0403-17 (22.03.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.357 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunday, March 21, 2004, 5:45:53 AM, you wrote: AM Greg Strong, [GS] wrote: GS Is it just coincidence that the volume on TB lists appear to have GS dropped since the start of Gmane? AM I'm inclined to think it's a coincidence since the lists often have AM their quiet periods. ...snip I noticed a drop since The-Bat site stopped showing the link to this list. In particular few newbies write in for help; they are the ones who need it most and this is the place where kind people offer great advice. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...It said Insert disk #3, but only two will fit! Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Paul Berger, [PB] wrote: PB I noticed a drop since The-Bat site stopped showing the link to PB this list. In particular few newbies write in for help; they are PB the ones who need it most and this is the place where kind people PB offer great advice. Now this wouldn't be surprising. From my own personal experience, most of the usergroups that I've participated in, I found information and links to by checking the support pages for the software I needed assistance with. I'm quite sure it's the same for others. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.04.7 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello , Hello Greg, Saturday, March 20, 2004, 9:27:40 AM, you wrote: Hello TB Users, Is it just coincidence that the volume on TB lists appear to have dropped since the start of Gmane? Maybe list members are just waiting to see how well Gmane is working--like a beta version--making sure the address masking is reliable, etc. Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of traffic to the list? IOW if they are using a news reader which can NOT send mail reduce list volume because it isn't as convenient to send mail. Kind of like a forced lurker mode. I find it's just as easy to post from a news client (XNews in my case.) Ironically if the Gmane has caused the volume on the lists to drop, then the argument to use a news reader due to volume is kind of mute. I saw a similar comment on TBOT so thought I'd ask the question on the TB lists. I'm just thinking out loud. High volume can ruin a list too. People are more willing to go off topic if they think their OT post is just another drop in the ocean. -- Best, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Minnesotan, Saturday, March 20, 2004, 10:31:56 AM, Minnesotan wrote: Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of traffic to the list? IOW if they are using a news reader which can NOT send mail reduce list volume because it isn't as convenient to send mail. Kind of like a forced lurker mode. M I find it's just as easy to post from a news client (XNews in my M case.) It is my understanding you can NOT post via NNTP but must post via SMTP. IOW a reply must be via email and not through the news reader unless the news reader can send email. I know Agent can send email probably others as well, but not sure which is why I stated this. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Greg Strong, [GS] wrote: GS Is it just coincidence that the volume on TB lists appear to have GS dropped since the start of Gmane? I'm inclined to think it's a coincidence since the lists often have their quiet periods. GS Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and GS the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of GS traffic to the list? They can post with their news-readers to the Gmane server. The Gmane server will send the message to the listserver which will send it to all members of the list via e-mail and a copy back the Gmane. All of this, *and more* are outlined in the information pages for the list. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello TB Users, Is it just coincidence that the volume on TB lists appear to have dropped since the start of Gmane? Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of traffic to the list? IOW if they are using a news reader which can NOT send mail reduce list volume because it isn't as convenient to send mail. Kind of like a forced lurker mode. Ironically if the Gmane has caused the volume on the lists to drop, then the argument to use a news reader due to volume is kind of mute. I saw a similar comment on TBOT so thought I'd ask the question on the TB lists. I'm just thinking out loud. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
