Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-02-02 Thread Tobias Wrede

Hej Krister,

On Dienstag, 30. Januar 2001 at 12:51:39 Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Thanks Brian, now, if i haven't already gotten it, i need som
 assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the
 Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign?

It's the '-key on the Swedish keyboard (next to ).

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-02-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom

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on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:04:45, our bat friend sten Hggmark typed:

H Brian Clark:
BC Yes I know. The reason I posted this is because Krister was having a
BC problem finding the equivalent for that combo in a Swedish keyboard
BC layout.

H Krister, did you solve that? I'm curious to know before I do the upgrade.

Nope, still haven't found the right key... Maybe i should have
formulated the question a bit differently, like so: where on the
american keyboard is the slash key located?


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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-02-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom

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Hi!
on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 15:21:06, our bat friend Marck D. Pearlstone typed:

MDP Good  heavens! They've moved them to the Network  Administration menu
MDP (where they belong) as switchable user rights. Perfect.

BC I can now press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ and nothing happens.

MDP Indeed. Wolfgang - I think that this makes the FAQ entry redundant.

Hmm, does this mean that i have to upgrade, and is this beta at the
usual spot?



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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-02-01 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Krister,

On 01 February 2001 at  19:39:24 +0100 (which was 18:39 where I  live)
Krister Ekstrom wrote and made these points:

MDP Good  heavens! They've moved them to the Network  Administration menu
MDP (where they belong) as switchable user rights. Perfect.

BC I can now press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ and nothing happens.

MDP Indeed. Wolfgang - I think that this makes the FAQ entry redundant.

KE Hmm, does this mean that i have to upgrade, and is this beta at the
KE usual spot?

Yes, and sort of. This release is not a beta. It's a "bug fix"
release. Release 'e' was mainly put out for those having trouble
importing mail from Pegasus. It is only available from the RIT labs
FTP site - ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/.

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-02-01 Thread Brian Clark


Hello Krister, 

(KE == "Krister Ekstrom") [EMAIL PROTECTED] accounted:

KE Nope, still haven't found the right key... Maybe i should have
KE formulated the question a bit differently, like so: where on the
KE american keyboard is the slash key located?

It's right beside the right shift key and on the numeric keypad to the
right of the Num Lock. I'm using an MS Natural though.

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-31 Thread Östen Häggmark

Hello,

Lija:
L This function switches lite/full menus... You don't have to do
L this, 'cause keyb. equivalent is Alt+Ctrl+Shift+/

Brian Clark:
BC Yes I know. The reason I posted this is because Krister was having a
BC problem finding the equivalent for that combo in a Swedish keyboard
BC layout.
  
Krister, did you solve that? I'm curious to know before I do the upgrade.

Is this a new feature in 1.49? I'm running 1.48f and I can't get
"lite menus" with any suggested key combination I try.

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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Dierk,

 On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps.

This should have been Strg-shift-alt-# of course :-)

DH  How about the numerical pad (just above the 8, the division sign)?

The key alone brings up quick search here, together with
crtl-shift-alt nothing happens.

Marck: what about adding this topic to the FAQ, together with a
list of the country specific codes?

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-31 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Wolfgang,

On  31  January  2001 at 11:18:23 +0100 (which was 10:18 where I live)
Wolfgang Kynast wrote and made these points:

WK This should have been Strg-shift-alt-# of course :-)

DH  How about the numerical pad (just above the 8, the division sign)?

WK The key alone brings up quick search here, together with
WK crtl-shift-alt nothing happens.

WK Marck: what about adding this topic to the FAQ,

It's a thought. It has come up twice in the past few days but, OTOH, I
haven't seen it mentioned for months.

WK together with a list of the country specific codes?

Where  should  I  get  that list from? If you could all shower me with
your regional version of Ctrl-Alt-Shift-/ then I will make up the list
here and an FAQ entry.

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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Marck,

...
MDP Where  should  I  get  that list from? If you could all shower me with
MDP your regional version of Ctrl-Alt-Shift-/ then I will make up the list
MDP here and an FAQ entry.

Ok, here we go:

keyboard layout   toggle 'simple menus'
---   -
US/UK ctrl-shift-alt-L
Germany   strg-shift-alt-#
? ?



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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-31 Thread Lija

Hello sten,

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, at 10:03:45 (your local time), you wrote:

H Is this a new feature in 1.49? I'm running 1.48f and I can't get
H "lite menus" with any suggested key combination I try.

As Wolfgang said, it is there for a long time. I use USA keyboard and don't have
a problem with that (actually, I _have_ when I use keyb. switching to switch to my
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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Krister Ekstrom

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Hi!
on Monday, January 29, 2001 10:46:09, our bat friend Brian Clark typed:

BC This one smacked me in the face, too, a few weeks ago. ;)

BC Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/

BC And everything should be back to normal.

Thanks Brian, now, if i haven't already gotten it, i need som
assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the
Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign? You see
American and Swedish keyboards are different, so need to find out the
right key.
Thanks!


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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi,

 i need som
 assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the
 Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign?

KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7.

I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press
ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-)

On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps.

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Karin Spaink

On 30-01-2001 at 15:13, Wolfgang Kynast kindly wrote:

 i need som
 assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the
 Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign?

KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7.

 I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press
 ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-)

No, not on *Swedish* keyboards, which is what Kirsten asked
about. (I have a Swedish keyboard right next to me. I know.)



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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Brian Clark


(WK == "Wolfgang Kynast") [EMAIL PROTECTED] declared:

KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7.

WK I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press
WK ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-)

Another option *might* be to do it in the registry for a quick fix.

Better make sure TB! is closed and make sure you backup your TB!
folder and registry keys. I'd back up the whole
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT tree first. You never know what'll
happen.

I'm not positive that this is the registry key for this particular
function, but look under:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

In the right pane, scroll down to "Simple Menus" and modify that value
to 0 if it's set to 1.

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Re[4]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Lija

Hello Wolfgang,

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, at 20:25:50 (your local time), you wrote:

ACM One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the configuration
ACM menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user environment it may be
ACM useful.

DG Ahhh, that makes sense now!  Thanks for the reply!

WK Some unpolite guys called it 'idiots mode' in the past ;-)

:) Well, maybe it is 'idiot mode', but I also don't like it. It often makes
confusion, especially when you have to bug with keyb. switching...


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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Wolfgang!

On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 at 3:13:42 PM you wrote:

 On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps.

 How about the numerical pad (just above the 8, the division sign)?

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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-30 Thread Brian Clark


Hello Lija, 

(L == "Lija") [EMAIL PROTECTED] betokened:

L This function switches lite/full menus... You don't have to do
L this, 'cause keyb. equivalent is Alt+Ctrl+Shift+/

Yes I know. The reason I posted this is because Krister was having a
problem finding the equivalent for that combo in a Swedish keyboard
layout.

See: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3rd in thread)

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Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom

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Hi Bat! people!
Have upgraded a while back to v1.49 and when i tried to go into the
sorting office, that menu choise had vanished, nothing under the
accounts menu for sorting office. Some other menus have vanished too,
or possible gone somewhere i've yet to find. For example the "empty
folder" has disappeared. Have they been placed on some kinda toolbar
or is there an option to choose between short or long menus, or what
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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread Brian Clark


Hello Krister, 

(KE == "Krister Ekstrom") [EMAIL PROTECTED] disclosed:

KE Hi Bat! people!
KE Have upgraded a while back to v1.49 and when i tried to go into the
KE sorting office, that menu choise had vanished, nothing under the
KE accounts menu for sorting office. Some other menus have vanished too,

This one smacked me in the face, too, a few weeks ago. ;)

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/

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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Gorman

Hello Brian,

Monday, January 29, 2001, 3:46:09 AM, you wrote:

BC Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/

Well that seems pretty weird!  What's the point of that keystroke combination?
It just seems to toggle full/abbreviated menus.  Is there a purpose to that?


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Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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following:

BC Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/

DG Well that seems pretty weird! What's the point of that keystroke
DG combination? It just seems to toggle full/abbreviated menus. Is
DG there a purpose to that?

One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the
configuration menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user
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Re[2]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Gorman

Monday, January 29, 2001, 12:39:22 PM, you wrote:

ACM One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the configuration
ACM menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user environment it may be
ACM useful.

Ahhh, that makes sense now!  Thanks for the reply!


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Re[3]: Help! where have all my menus gone?

2001-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Dave,

ACM One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the configuration
ACM menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user environment it may be
ACM useful.

DG Ahhh, that makes sense now!  Thanks for the reply!

Some unpolite guys called it 'idiots mode' in the past ;-)

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