How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello tbudl,

  I would like to create a simple subscribe feature on my
  site. It is a simple mailto: link and all the user has to
  do is send a blank e-mail.

 The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail
 address but can I somehow capture there IP address?

  I would like to send a single opt-in confirmation back to
  the subscriber that looks like this

  --
  Thank you for subscribing. Important information follows.

  You or someone subscribed to stay up to date with us and
  did so from the following IP address *178.32.943.255*
  --
  
  Any idea? Thank you

-- 
Best regards,
 Victor B. Gonzalez  
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Re: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Victor,

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:38:25 -0500GMT (9-12-02, 19:38 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

VBG The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail address but
VBG can I somehow capture there IP address?

I don't think that's possible with TB alone. Though it's possible to
extract an ip-address from their headers with regexp, it's impossible
(I think) to extract the last ip-address (when reading top down) from
the headers, especially since you don't want the last one when it's an
address from one of the local ranges.

The only possibility would be to hand over the headers to a program or
script that extracts the ip-address of origin and hands that back to
TB. If the need would arise that's the way I should advance.

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Re[2]: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Roelof,

VBG The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail address but
VBG can I somehow capture there IP address?

RO Though it's possible to extract an ip-address from their headers with
RO regexp, it's impossible (I think) to extract the last ip-address (when
RO reading top down) from the headers, ... you don't want the last one
RO when it's an address from one of the local ranges.

RO The only possibility would be to hand over the headers to a program or
RO script that extracts the ip-address of origin and hands that back to
RO TB. If the need would arise that's the way I should advance.

Thank you for the info. Of course it's not what I wish to
have heard :) The Bat! is so good Vs. other clients and so
robust that I think it should just do more...

I never thought about mail like this before using OE,
Foxmail, hotmail and Mozilla's client.

Being introduced it to it I feel like it should be washing
my clothes, cooking my food and baby sitting my daughter. :)

It's an amazing client but the second I think of something
trying to get ahead of it all it's not even implemented :(

sheesh... Any Ideas on extracting the senders IP address and
somehow putting it into context in an automatic reply back
would be very accepted.

(Roelof you are the man though :)

Thank you very much

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Re: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Victor,

 The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail address but can
 I somehow capture there IP address?

You could if you used a form (e.g. with FormMail.pl) instead of a
mailto link. But you should not worry about the IP address because it
is not meaningful. If a user has a dial-up connection, or sends mail
or connects to Internet from a any place, his IP address would be
different to his normal one but his request to subscribe would still
be valid. What counts is the e-mail address, and that is what you are
using to send the subscriber a message to confirm his subscription
request. If his e-mail was spoofed and he did not send the request, he
will not confirm it.

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Re[2]: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Miguel,

 The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail address but can
 I somehow capture there IP address?

MAU you should not worry about the IP address because it is
MAU not meaningful.

I thought it was a good way to track a PCs location to help
at least prove it wasn't someone else that subscribed :|

MAU If a user has a dial-up connection, or sends mail
MAU or connects to Internet from a any place, his IP address would be
MAU different to his normal one

I completely understand this one but I also thought that
along with a time stamp I'll at least be able to cover my
butt in an argument.

MAU What counts is the e-mail address... If his e-mail was spoofed
MAU and he did not send the request, he will not confirm it.

This is probably where the problem lies. I wish to make
the operation in-house and single opt-in. I was just hoping
that in the case no one can say they didn't opt-in for my
broadcast.

I do not wish to ever get caught up with spamming or spam
related tactics, etc. Would then a pre configured subject
line without modification like the following help in
covering my butt?

?subject=subscribe_me_in_for_single_opt-in_broadcasting

I work with opinions :)

Thank you Miguel

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Re: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Victor,

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VBG  The Bat! collects their first  last name and e-mail
VBG  address but can I somehow capture there IP address?

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VBG   Any idea? Thank you

This can be done with a Regular Expression treatment of the message
headers. This is a bit complex for TBUDL however and I recommend
that you ask about this on TBTECH.

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Re: How do you collect an IP address?

2002-12-10 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Victor,

 I completely understand this one but I also thought that
 along with a time stamp I'll at least be able to cover my
 butt in an argument.

No, the way to cover your butt is by asking the subscriber to
confirm the subscription.

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