IMAP and filters
I've been playing around with TB's IMAP a little bit, and find the most annoying thing about it to be the lack of ability to filter messages. Automatic filtering doesn't work, and when I 're-filter' a folder, all my messages just disappear. Not good, to say the least. Scanning the various archives I can see that others have the same problem. Has anyone gotten filters to work with IMAP, and if so, how? -- Sean H. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
Sean H . wrote: Has anyone gotten filters to work with IMAP, and if so, how? I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that *no* filters work for you at all? Or only certain filters? I am using v1.62, which is limited in IMAP functionality compared to v2, but I am able to use filters with IMAP accounts. Can you describe the specific filters that aren't working? AFAIK, the only filter limitation with IMAP is Selective Download. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, Sean H. wrote... I've been playing around with TB's IMAP a little bit, and find the most annoying thing about it to be the lack of ability to filter messages. Automatic filtering doesn't work, and when I 're-filter' a folder, all my messages just disappear. Not good, to say the least. I think the filters stuff is on the works of a rewrite, this is probably to account for the new IMAP protocol support, and some newer features. I'm finding it awfully frustrating that I cannot filter mail, so you're not the only one. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Truly yours truly, Department of Redundancy Department. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and filters
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ken green said: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that *no* filters work for you at all? Or only certain filters? I am using v1.62, which is limited in IMAP functionality compared to v2, but I am able to use filters with IMAP accounts. I beg to differ. What you are effectively doing is popping your IMAP account and filtering email in local folders. It's not really IMAP because mail on the server stays in the Inbox. You just move it around in your local folders. Can you describe the specific filters that aren't working? AFAIK, the only filter limitation with IMAP is Selective Download. I got excited about IMAP in v2.0, I stopped using IMAP, because it still has problems with managing folders and filtering email. But it's much better than in 1.62, so I am hopeful that by 2.5 or 3.0, we'll have it 100% right! :p -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- Only one shopping day left until tomorrow! --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and filters
Jim D wrote: I beg to differ. What you are effectively doing is popping your IMAP account and filtering email in local folders. It's not really IMAP because mail on the server stays in the Inbox. You just move it around in your local folders. Ahh.. yes, you are correct. When I think of *filters* I think of what TB does to a particular message (in the context of my installation - locally). What you are describing I would call folder management and/or server-side filters. My misunderstanding. I got excited about IMAP in v2.0, I stopped using IMAP, because it still has problems with managing folders and filtering email. But it's much better than in 1.62, so I am hopeful that by 2.5 or 3.0, we'll have it 100% right! :p Without starting a huge debate, can some people weigh in on what the pros and cons are for IMAP? I understand the protocol a bit, and can see the benefit of the travelling person (managing messages on the server). But what does IMAP offer that cannot be done in The Bat with Dispatcher - even with POP accounts? Maybe a better question is what is on the horizon for TB - that is, what is The Bat *close to* being able to do that cannot be done w/ Dispatcher? I've gone back and forth - it ultimately doesn't matter much to me. When I access my mailboxes remotely, I use a web interface or some other mobile means (geek) and I have those methods set to use IMAP. I understand POP can get messy if accessed from multiple machines, leaving copies on the server (ex: duplicate messages). But if only one access point in POP and the rest are IMAP, then things should be OK. At least this is what I've been told... :) The problem I have with TB's 1.62 IMAP is that it will only download untouched (unread) messages. I actually lost some important e-mail this way. I had accessed my mail with my phone and when I returned, it appeared that all my messages had been downloaded, so I deleted everything off the server. When I went to look for a specific message I read on my phone it was nowhere to be found! I don't think POP accounts behave this way, but I could be wrong. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
