Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-03 Thread Doug Higby
Hello Charlene,

Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 7:58:47 PM, you wrote:

 Good evening list members,

 a dear friend of mine has encountered a strange problem and she can't get
 rid of it:
 Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly
 cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all
 subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected.
 She runs 3.99.3 on OTFE under Win MCE -as I do, too.
 She can't get back her emails and is rather disappointed about The Bat due
 to the circumstance of being forced to do a folder maintenance from time to
 time and the lack of reliance in the MUA itself. Losing mails is really a
 severe issue and I would want to help her if only I could.
 Can anybody be helpful in that concern please?


Well, I've been warned that my inbox needs to be kept smaller, but
what you describe is a perpetual problem that I face!  I totally dread
running maintenance because **every** time it finds an error it says
something like 137 messages recovered, which, it turns out is slang
for I have just deleted your entire folder.  Sure, it creates
misc. files in the folder that contain encrypted garbage, but my files
are history.

What irks me is that the messages are all there and readable by the
bat interface just before running maintenance.  In fact, I now often
copy all the messages from one folder to a temporary folder before
running maintenance, because the risk is so high that I will actually
loose them all.

I **think** that this problem began only when I started using Voyager,
from the first release onward.  I suspect that the maintenance program
is very bad at handling encrypted message bases, since this is the
default for Voyager.

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Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-03 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Doug Higby,

Thursday, May 3, 2007 
you let us know -possibly edited- :

 Well, I've been warned that my inbox needs to be kept smaller, but
 what you describe is a perpetual problem that I face!  I totally dread
 running maintenance because **every** time it finds an error it says
 something like 137 messages recovered, which, it turns out is slang
 for I have just deleted your entire folder.  Sure, it creates
 misc. files in the folder that contain encrypted garbage, but my files
 are history.
My girlfriend reports similar observations: TB affirms to have found
damaged folders that previously were just fine to navigate thru. After a
maintenance run all mails in that parent folder and all subfolders are
lost, despite TB keeps on pretending having corrected something.


 I **think** that this problem began only when I started using Voyager,
 from the first release onward.  I suspect that the maintenance program
 is very bad at handling encrypted message bases, since this is the
 default for Voyager.
She runs OTFE but no Voyager, so ... maybe you're right.



-- 
kind regards
Charlene Ferrara
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Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on 
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2



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Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Charlene,

on Wed, 2 May 2007 21:58:47 +0200GMT (02.05.2007, 21:58 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

CF Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly
CF cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all
CF subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected.
CF She runs 3.99.3 on OTFE under Win MCE -as I do, too.

I have a similar problem with Voyager 3.99.4. It occurs only with two
folders that are not *too* important to me, not an Inbox. I avoid to
select Check integrity in folder maintenance for the time being...
Maybe I should try Roelof's suggestion here too. ;-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

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Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-02 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Good evening list members,

a dear friend of mine has encountered a strange problem and she can't get
rid of it:
Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly
cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all
subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected.
She runs 3.99.3 on OTFE under Win MCE -as I do, too.
She can't get back her emails and is rather disappointed about The Bat due
to the circumstance of being forced to do a folder maintenance from time to
time and the lack of reliance in the MUA itself. Losing mails is really a
severe issue and I would want to help her if only I could.
Can anybody be helpful in that concern please?

-- 
kind regards
Charlene Ferrara
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Charlene,

On Wed, 2 May 2007 21:58:47 +0200GMT (2-5-2007, 21:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CF Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly
CF cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all
CF subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected.

It's most likely that the Inbox has been corrupted somehow. Copy all
messages from the Inbox to another folder, do the same for the
subfolders of the Inbox.
Open the folder view for the Inbox and its subfolders, TB will give
you the real name of the directory in the title of the window,
remember those names (or write them down), close TB, delete the
directory matching the inbox (check whether there's something else in
it apart from the messages.ebb and .ebi files, copy everything else to
a safe location.)
Start TB go to the Inbox and perform folder maintenance, if this
doesn't cure the problem, close TB again and delete the subfolders of
the Inbox too. (And try again)

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Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )

2007-05-02 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Roelof,

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 
you wrote:
 It's most likely that the Inbox has been corrupted somehow. Copy all
 messages from the Inbox to another folder, do the same for the
 subfolders of the Inbox.
Thank you for your help, I have forwarded your mail and we will give TB
another try tomorrow.

-- 
kind regards
Charlene Ferrara
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on 
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