Re: Messages base problem.
Hello Alberto, AA> in the last month I had a lot of problem with the messages database AA> on several pc: I have more or less 40 pc running The Bat! as mail AA> client (different releases) on W2k fully patched with Symantec AA> Enterprise Edition (9) as Antivirus program. AA> In many cases the problem begins cancelling a message compression AA> (in many cases because the user want to shut down quickly ..:( ), AA> or in case of problem during the shut down. AA> On the next boot The Bat! ask to "resolve" the problem and anfert AA> clicking yes you can't see one or two month of mail... AA> So is it possible to recover messages in .bin file? And how can I AA> try to avoid this problem? If you copy that .BIN file to somewhere and rename the copied file to .TBB, you may import the mails back from it to your desired folder. How to avoid this problems: exclude .TBB, .TBI and .BIN from the antivirus search regime. You wrote that user CANCELS the message compression. And there is a problem at the next boot, right? It seems to me that it CAN BE a bug in TB!, however, I would need the exact version number of yours to test it. Also: until the fix: switch off every account's Inbox's "Compress at exit" and send the users a mail at every Monday morning to do it manually! (This is easy by using the Scheduler.) Also: a 3-month puppy can be trained easily. He poops on the carpet, you push his nose into it ca. 5 times, he learns NOT to poop on the carpet anymore, because of its consequencies... Similarly, if your users realized that by cancelling the compress at exit cause problems, they should have realized that doing it again and again is not... hmm... beneficial... (A trick, I wrote it at least once to this list, so if someone reads it not the first time, sorry for it (Alberto: you may modify it if you dont have a 2nd HDD or partition, to a separate directory on C:, because you are concerned about the loss of the mails, not the HDD crash) How to store the mails at more than one HDD/partition all the time (even if one HDD crash, absolutely no mail will be lost)? - Make a new account (AccountX) with some false email address, set the home directory on the 2nd HDD - AccountX properties: Ignore Check all account request - Setup folders in AccountX with every other account's name - Setup a filter in every other account that the incoming and outgoing mails will have a copy in the corresponding AccountX folders So, if you make frequent backups, after a HDD crash all you have to do is backup the first HDD and copy back the mails from AccountX and sort them (manually). But none of the email will be lost... After a backup, if you wish, you may delete mails from AccountX. ) -- Vili Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages base problem.
Hallo Alberto, On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:15:44 +0200GMT (15-7-2005, 12:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AA> In many cases the problem begins cancelling a message compression AA> (in many cases because the user want to shut down quickly ..:( ), AA> or in case of problem during the shut down. In that case, switch off compressing on exit. Though I don't really recommend that. When I want to exit fast without TB compressing, I just press the power switch for a moment. Windows will shut down immediately with TB just quitting without compressing anything. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.51.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpxDwct3VYRA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages base problem.
Hello Alberto Almagioni & everyone else, on 15-Jul-2005 at 12:15 you (Alberto Almagioni) wrote: > So is it possible to recover messages in .bin file? Change the extension to .tbb and restart TB. You should be able to see the messages. To repair the messagebase, select all messages that are intact (ie. no "empty" lines in the messagelist) and export them to a unix mailbox file. Then delete all messages, compress the folder, and re-import the messages from the mailbox file. How to avoid that... hmmm, I have no idea. I had a corrupted messagebase once, in one single folder. That was a long time ago, it never happened again. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. -- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages base problem.
Hello Alberto! On Friday, July 15, 2005, 5:15 AM, you wrote, in part: > So is it possible to recover messages in .bin file? And how can I > try to avoid this problem? I am not proficient enough in using the computer or in pinpointing causes of problems as serious as yours to be able to offer any help. However, one tip: It will greatly assist others here who may have help to offer if you will tell what version of The Bat! you are running. At least, I *think* that this information (see mine below my signature delimiter) is an addition that would be helpful, if not, indeed, necessary for solving your problem. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.51.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Messages base problem.
Dear all, in the last month I had a lot of problem with the messages database on several pc: I have more or less 40 pc running The Bat! as mail client (different releases) on W2k fully patched with Symantec Enterprise Edition (9) as Antivirus program. In many cases the problem begins cancelling a message compression (in many cases because the user want to shut down quickly ..:( ), or in case of problem during the shut down. On the next boot The Bat! ask to "resolve" the problem and anfert clicking yes you can't see one or two month of mail... So is it possible to recover messages in .bin file? And how can I try to avoid this problem? -- Ciao Al Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
