Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

Saturday, March 20, 2004, 2:43:57 AM, you wrote:


C> Neil  @ 19-Mar-2004 2:25:37 PM

>> X-Time: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT
>> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT
C> 

>> (by the way this is a received email and my system clock is correct -
>> locked to an internet atomic clock using Tardis)
C> I assume that this message an old message...

C> This Tardis has nothing to do with a blue Police box, right? If not
C> (or if this message is a recent message), you have more problems than
C> you thinks. Watch out for The Master!

 Well no it isn't a Blue Police Box but I think the author might be a
 fan!

 http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk/

 I see the Tardis quite often but that's another story (yes I do mean
 the real one! ) Sorry to disappoint you all but it's only a TV Prop.

 Now back on topic...
 
 It is the created date that I am wishing to change. Which is what I
 thought I had done above.

 Update - I have finally solved it. The created date was ALSO embedded
 in the HTML further down the message and it was that which TB seemed
 to be reading so whilst the headers were correct the HTML wasn't.
 

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Re: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Chris]

Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ 19-Mar-2004 2:25:37 PM
"Modify received date? (or created date)" <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> X-Time: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT


> (by the way this is a received email and my system clock is correct -
> locked to an internet atomic clock using Tardis)
I assume that this message an old message...

This Tardis has nothing to do with a blue Police box, right? If not
(or if this message is a recent message), you have more problems than
you thinks. Watch out for The Master!

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Re: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Friday, March 19, 2004, Neil wrote...

> Which if I import as a Unix mailbox still shows as 2010 but if I
> double click on the file (01.msg) it opens in TB AND with the
> correct date.

Could it be you have the created date showing in the preview, and not
the received date? When you did the import, did you remove the old
one? How about importing it into a different folder?

> I'm totally confused now!

> (by the way this is a received email and my system clock is correct
> - locked to an internet atomic clock using Tardis)

Well that Tardis thing has been known to send people all over the
place... ask Dr Who :)

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Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

Thursday, March 18, 2004, 9:08:27 PM, you wrote:

JA> On Thursday, March 18, 2004, Neil wrote...

>> Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at?

>> The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11
>> 19:10:43 2002)

JA> The format is wrong, he is pointing it out.  In the email that was
JA> sent, it is in the format:

JA> According to the RFCs, the date format on the mail you showed, is
JA> incorrect. If you want to get a little more technical, read the RFC
JA> 2822, section 3.3. This breaks down to what I pointed out above,
JA> showing that the format of the Date: header in the email you are
JA> having issues in is wrong.

Oops that last went sent itself in the middle of me typing how
weird... anyway the full email

Ok thanks I understand now.

Well I have tried exporting it to a Unix mailbox and correcting the
date and importing it again but it still shows 2010.

I believe the correct settings are:-

X-Priority: 3
Importance: normal
X-Time: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:57:50 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-User-Agent: notify "($Revision: 1.41 $)"
X-Domain: gb
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en

Which if I import as a Unix mailbox still shows as 2010 but if I
double click on the file (01.msg) it opens in TB AND with the
correct date.

I'm totally confused now!

(by the way this is a received email and my system clock is correct -
locked to an internet atomic clock using Tardis)

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Re: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Friday, March 19, 2004, Neil wrote...

>>> Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at?

>>> The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11
>>> 19:10:43 2002)

JA>> The format is wrong, he is pointing it out. In the email that was
JA>> sent, it is in the format:

> Ok thanks I understand now.

> Well I have tried exporting it to a Unix mailbox and correcting the
> date and importing it again but it still shows 2010.

> I believe the correct settings are:-

Is it the received date, or created date that is displayed wrong? If
it is the received date, you might want to check your computer clock
;) Whenever I rebuild my computer, I'm forever setting the date of the
month in the year box ;)

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Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

Thursday, March 18, 2004, 9:08:27 PM, you wrote:

JA> On Thursday, March 18, 2004, Neil wrote...

>> Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at?

>> The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11
>> 19:10:43 2002)

JA> The format is wrong, he is pointing it out.  In the email that was
JA> sent, it is in the format:

JA> According to the RFCs, the date format on the mail you showed, is
JA> incorrect. If you want to get a little more technical, read the RFC
JA> 2822, section 3.3. This breaks down to what I pointed out above,
JA> showing that the format of the Date: header in the email you are
JA> having issues in is wrong.

Ok thanks I understand now.

Well I have tried exporting it to a Unix mailbox and correcting the
date and importing it again but it still shows 2010.

I believe the correct settings are:-



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Re: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Thursday, March 18, 2004, Neil wrote...

PO>> If I'm not mistaking, the "Date:" field should be in the format
PO>> like: "Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 +"

> Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at?

> The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00 (Mon Feb 11
> 19:10:43 2002)

The format is wrong, he is pointing it out.  In the email that was
sent, it is in the format:

  [short day] [month] [date] [hh:mm:ss] [year]

ie: Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002

However, it should be in the format:

  [short day,] [date] [month] [year] [hh:mm:ss] [UTC Offset]

ie: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 +

According to the RFCs, the date format on the mail you showed, is
incorrect. If you want to get a little more technical, read the RFC
2822, section 3.3. This breaks down to what I pointed out above,
showing that the format of the Date: header in the email you are
having issues in is wrong.

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Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

Thursday, March 18, 2004, 5:38:36 PM, you wrote:

PO> Hello Neil,

PO> on Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:23:07 + (2004-03-18 17:23:07 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference
PO>  you [] wrote (at
PO> least in part):

N>> Yet in my Inbox in the Created column (and on the Created line in the
N>> email) I get Created: 10 January 2010, 04:41:00  (Mon Feb 11 19:10:43
N>> 2002)

PO> 

N>> Received: from mk-rewrite-1.mail.uk.tiscali.co (212.74.114.131)
N>> by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com (6.7.014)
N>> id 3E2FE531004EC062 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 +
PO> 
N>> Date: Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002

PO> If I'm not mistaking, the "Date:" field should be in the format like:
PO> "Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:10:48 +"



Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at?

The Created date shows as 10 January 2010, 04:41:00  (Mon Feb 11
19:10:43 2002)

Which is the format you said.

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Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

That's the odd thing. It isn't in the headers. I exported the email to
a Unix mailbox file and opened it in Notepad. Headers below.

Yet in my Inbox in the Created column (and on the Created line in the
email) I get Created: 10 January 2010, 04:41:00  (Mon Feb 11 19:10:43 2002)

And the sort by created date works on the 2010 date! Now I can see the 19:10:43
timestamp in the headers but not the 2010 one. Where has that one come
from?

(Note this was a received email rather than one sent by me)

Neil


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Thursday, March 18, 2004, 10:23:42 AM, you wrote:


RA> Yes, it is in the Unix mailbox format. This is the start of your email
RA> exported to Unix mailbox format. The From line at the top shows the time I
RA> received it, the Date: header shows the time you created it

RA> ,- [  ]
RA> | From [email address deleted]  Thu Mar 18 21:03:02 2004
RA> | Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RA> | Delivered-To: [email address deleted]
RA> | Received: from mail-in.netspace.net.au
RA> (mail-in3.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.75])
RA> |   by mx4.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4083A546
RA> |   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:13 +1100 (EST)
RA> | Received: from mail-in.netspace.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1])
RA> |   by localhost.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B6259FD1B
RA> |   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:26 +1100 (EST)
RA> | Received: from server01.clinservices.de
RA> (server01.clinservices.de [62.80.28.25])
RA> |   by mail-in.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7676D59FB97
RA> |   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:25 +1100 (EST)
RA> | Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org
RA> (draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8])
RA> |   by server01.clinservices.de (Postfix) with ESMTP
RA> |   id 7CCA0274293; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:40:41 +0100 (CET)
RA> | Received: from 81-86-253-222.dsl.pipex.com ([81.86.253.222]
RA> |   helo=brackenbury.org)
RA> |   by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B3s7f-00059i-1b
RA> |   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:39:23 +0100
RA> | Received: from cr [127.0.0.1] by brackenbury.org
RA> |   (ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro for WinNT/2000/XP, Version 1.8 (1.8.4.7));
RA> |   Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:39:21 +
RA> | Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:39:19 +
RA> | From: Neil [email address deleted]>
RA> |
RA>   <...snip...>
RA> |
RA> `-




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Re: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Robin Anson]

On Thu 18 March 2004, 18:39:19 +1000, Neil wrote:
> Is it also possible to modify the 'Created Date' as I sort by created
> date and have one which the sender sent as 2010!
> 
> Have tried exporting to Unix format but can't find the number 2010 in
> it using a text search.
> 
> Any ideas how to edit that?

Yes, it is in the Unix mailbox format. This is the start of your email
exported to Unix mailbox format. The From line at the top shows the time I
received it, the Date: header shows the time you created it

,- [  ]
| From [email address deleted]  Thu Mar 18 21:03:02 2004
| Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Delivered-To: [email address deleted]
| Received: from mail-in.netspace.net.au (mail-in3.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.75])
|   by mx4.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4083A546
|   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:13 +1100 (EST)
| Received: from mail-in.netspace.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1])
|   by localhost.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B6259FD1B
|   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:26 +1100 (EST)
| Received: from server01.clinservices.de (server01.clinservices.de [62.80.28.25])
|   by mail-in.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7676D59FB97
|   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:41:25 +1100 (EST)
| Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org (draenor.its-toasted.org [62.80.28.8])
|   by server01.clinservices.de (Postfix) with ESMTP
|   id 7CCA0274293; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:40:41 +0100 (CET)
| Received: from 81-86-253-222.dsl.pipex.com ([81.86.253.222]
|   helo=brackenbury.org)
|   by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B3s7f-00059i-1b
|   for [email address deleted]; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:39:23 +0100
| Received: from cr [127.0.0.1] by brackenbury.org
|   (ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro for WinNT/2000/XP, Version 1.8 (1.8.4.7));
|   Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:39:21 +
| Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:39:19 +
| From: Neil [email address deleted]>
|
  <...snip...>
|
`-

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Re[2]: Modify received date? (or created date)

[Neil]

Wednesday, March 17, 2004, 10:43:56 PM, you wrote:

RA> On Thu 18 March 2004, 5:36:34 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> Can I manually modify the date shown in the Received column of TB
>> messages in the main message list view?

RA> Yes, but not within TB!. You need to export the message(s) in Unix Mailbox
RA> format, then you can edit the Unix Mailbox file and import the messages.
RA> The received date is on the first line of each message in the mailbox


Is it also possible to modify the 'Created Date' as I sort by created
date and have one which the sender sent as 2010!

Have tried exporting to Unix format but can't find the number 2010 in
it using a text search.

Any ideas how to edit that?

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