Re[2]: Multiple AB entries from filters
In reply to Allie's message 'Multiple AB entries from filters' on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 06:42:14 -0500 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Allie, AM For your filter that you use to add the address, you can go to the AM advanced tab and select, address must not be in address book // AM Items - sender . Cheers! Worked a treat. I have been putting off asking this on this list for ages because i thought it was a waste of time and space, I should have just asked in the beginning. Thanks Allie and most importantly, thank you Roelof for your tip. -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hallo Daniel, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:13:19 +1100GMT (21-1-03, 12:13 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DH I have been putting off asking this on this list for ages DH because i thought it was a waste of time and space, I should DH have just asked in the beginning. In that case you're not long enough on this list. I've got this clear memory of this subject being discussed. (With the same solution.) Must have been 2002 or 2001, therefore I didn't react any sooner. After all Allie reacted and with my confidence in him, I'd expected him to remember the proper solution. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hallo Allie, On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:28:20 -0500GMT (19-1-03, 17:28 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AM Perhaps something should be done about the filtering to address AM this issue (a switch to not add addresses when entries already AM contain the address to be added). This can be done. Set in your filter 'Addresses must not be listed in Address Book' (located on the options tab). That option checks whether the address is listed, it doesn't compare the names or whatever, only the address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hallo Roelof, On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:50:21 +0100GMT (20-1-03, 11:50 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO Set in your filter 'Addresses must not be listed in Address Book' RO (located on the options tab) That would be the 'advanced' tab and not options, of course. ;-0 -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:'
RO This can be done. Set in your filter 'Addresses must not be listed
RO in Address Book' (located on the options tab). That option checks
RO whether the address is listed, it doesn't compare the names or
RO whatever, only the address.
Upon checking this, you're right. :)
Daniel,
For your filter that you use to add the address, you can go
to the advanced tab and select, address must not be in
address book // Items - sender .
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Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hello Allie, On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:29:50 -0500 GMT (19/01/03, 18:29 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: DH As people seem to have a habit of changing their 'name' depending DH on their mood LOL! The same for e-mail addresses. I'm one of the guilty. No, I don't think you are causing a problem. ;-) The way I see it, AB and group templates don't work if the same email address is contained more than once in the AB. So, if you use different email addresses, no harm will be caused. However, new AB entries are are automatically created by filters based on the display name (according to Daniel, I haven't tested it) instead of the email address. So, different entries with the same email address are created. This causes problems. IMHO this discrepancy is a little bug. TB should use the *same* argument (and I vote for email address rather than display name) for creating new entries via the filtering system *and* when using templates. Just my 0.02 worth. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Neulich ist ein Statistiker gestorben. Er hinterlaesst eine Frau und zweieinhalb Kinder. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'
TF However, new AB entries are are automatically created by filters
TF based on the display name (according to Daniel, I haven't tested
TF it) instead of the email address. So, different entries with the
TF same email address are created. This causes problems.
Hmmm. It's possible that two people could be using the same address,
for example, a support address or something similar. Being able to
define each person separately is an advantage and should be considered
a feature.
However, I do admit that the problems it creates may very well
outweigh the advantage. I wonder if the solution is to do away with
it. Perhaps something should be done about the filtering to address
this issue (a switch to not add addresses when entries already contain
the address to be added).
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Re: Multiple AB entries from filters
Hello Allie, On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:28:20 -0500 GMT (19/01/03, 23:28 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: However, I do admit that the problems it creates may very well outweigh the advantage. I wonder if the solution is to do away with it. Perhaps something should be done about the filtering to address this issue (a switch to not add addresses when entries already contain the address to be added). Another option... but yes, that could be the solution. But please also check this out: Now, the filtering system says under the Advanced tab: Address(es) must be listed in the addressbook. It clearly says *adress* and not *display name*. I would have believed that (namely the address rather than the duisplay name) is what the filter is looking for. Just because it says so. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multiple AB entries from filters
Hello all out there in TBUDL world, Quite a few of my filters add the From address to specific groups within my Address Book. However, I am now noticing quite a lot of doubling - and indeed tripling - up of addresses. It seems that the 'Add address(es) to Address Book' action bases it's decision on whether to add the address or not on what appears in the 'Display Name As' field in the address book, rather than the email address. As people seem to have a habit of changing their 'name' depending on their mood - or perhaps which side of the bed they got out on, or the cycle of the moon, the directions of the tides or if they have reached their daily caffeine quota, or whatever it is they base this decision on - I am getting quite a lot of multiple entries for the same person/email address. Not to mention the times that I have manually gone in and correctly filled in their name instead of 'Lame made up nickname' they insist on using. As a result, one email address can be taking up numerous AB entires, for absolutely no reason - or certainly not a productive reason in my case. After all this, TB then seems to take an almost random approach as to which AB entry to pull the fields out of when used in templates... (and this is how I discovered the multiply entires) Is there a way to add address book entries ONLY if the email address isn't already present in the specific group? Or is this just a little 'feature' that I must learn to live with? Cheers! -- dan. e [EMAIL PROTECTED] w http://www.danhirning.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
