Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
21 December 2002, 18:55, you wrote: ACM I had started using my middle name, but I didn't like doing it Well, I suppose Christine was just as bad :) -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hello Allie, On Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 17:18:39 -0500, you wrote concerning 'Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer': ... Do you have a filter that automatically adds posters to your address book? Yes I have. I use it for private replying to list members. When Victor's templates were problematic his replies would say that the message is from him but his address would be that of the person to whom he's replying. Look for the address/es in your address book for Victor and you should find that the e-mail address is actually mine, i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes that was it. I had an addressbook entry of Victor containing your e-mail address. Thanks Allie and Roelof. -- Best regards, David ** The strength of women is psychology cannot explain them. ** [TB! 1.62 Christmas Edition] [Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hello Michael, I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. I use Second Copy 2000 for that and it is perfect for the job. http://www.centered.com/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, 07:52, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution? Yes, Miguel A. Urech recommended Second Copy 2000 (http://www.centered.com) to me and I've been using it happily since. It has some problems with incorrectly time stamped files originating from a Macintosh, but other then that it works like a charm. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, 6:52:09 AM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I do a Restore in TB. I had a laptop/desktop installation, but my situation is slightly more complex, as I send and receive email from both computers (although not at the same time) with different account settings and I have problems keeping the two in synch. In your situation, however, I would suggest that using the TB! backup or synchronize functions is not the best way to achieve what you want - I would use an independent backup program for this, and copy the whole of your TB folder to the desktop. The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. Yes, this is a problem. Synchronize does not appear to copy filters, so I find that unless I manually copy across all my filters and folder structure, I end up with messages in different folders on different machines, and lots of dups. I also use different account settings on both machines, so I cannot simply copy across the complete laptop installation. Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie Martin's great explanation from January 2002 which seems to deal with the same problem I'm having. Her instructions were much clearer than the instructions in the Help Menu for the Maintenance center. Allie is a he, as you will see from the Rogues Gallery on the FAQ pages. :-) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael S. Greenbaum [MSG] wrote:'
MSG My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a
MSG desktop. Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a
MSG backup file from my laptop which I then move, using PC
MSG Anywhere, to my desktop that I use strictly for backup. After I
MSG move the file over to the desktop, I do a Restore in TB.
So you don't have both machines local area networked? This could
help a lot with the speed of transfers.
MSG The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the
MSG new messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages,
MSG many of which have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from
MSG one mailbox to another.
MSG Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie
MSG Martin's great explanation
MSG However, in her email she stated...
cough :) I'm male.
MSG Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror
MSG image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution?
Well, since you have the account and account folder tree mirrored on
the desktop, it's just a matter of copying the 'Mail directory'
from the laptop to the desktop, overwriting all that needs to be
overwritten on the desktop.
All your mail for your accounts, quick templates and filters are
stored in the 'Mail directory' in your installation folder, unless
you moved the folder somewhere else. The default location is
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail
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Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hello Victor, On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:44:24 -0500 GMT (21/12/02, 14:44 +0700 GMT), Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: MSG I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. The only solution I currently have to help you mirror an inbox is to share your accounts directory with the desktop. I mean file, folder and printer sharing provided by Windows. Sharing the same files would make them accessable from the desktop, but it is not a backup. I think the point was to backup. My backups are exactly what Allie describes in his mail in this same thread, except that I backup everything: the reg-key will be exported in the \The Bat! directly and the whole directory will be zipped and stored on another drive. This way, I have all my settings, and the current version of TB, in the backup. Time it takes is no longer than TB's backup function. My suggestion to Michael: Do the above, transfer the zipped directory, unzip it on the desktop into the \the Bat! directory (this will override the version you have there), import the reg key (there are some settings in there). Or, as I do, just store the zip file. I unzip it only if I need access to the backup (i.e. when I have played around and messed up things). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: cough :) I'm male. I apologize for this. Just ignorance on my part. But as long as I'm writing you, I want to tell you that was a brilliant explanation of the Synchronise program. It was not only clear but it explained the *reasoning* behind the three steps which had previously made no sense at all to me. Well, since you have the account and account folder tree mirrored on the desktop, it's just a matter of copying the 'Mail directory' from the laptop to the desktop, overwriting all that needs to be overwritten on the desktop. All your mail for your accounts, quick templates and filters are stored in the 'Mail directory' in your installation folder, unless you moved the folder somewhere else. The default location is I've found the directory and will work on that this afternoon. I already use a third-party backup for all my other data so it would be no problem to add the Mail folder to it. Thanks again. Mike -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 http://janusbooks.com Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hallo Allie, On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 06:43:32 -0500GMT (21-12-02, 12:43 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: ACM cough :) I'm male. Since you keep on mentioning that, couldn't you place this link in your signature? http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/rogues/allie_martin.jpg -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: All your mail for your accounts, quick templates and filters are stored in the 'Mail directory' in your installation folder, unless you moved the folder somewhere else. The default location is C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail I tried this out this morning, and it works just fine with but one, easily fixable, problem. My laptop is set to check mail on opening TB while the desktop (which is strictly backup and which I don't use for sending or receiving emails) is set to *not* check mail on opening. Of course, after I restore my laptop Mail folder to my desktop, the desktop setting is changed to be the same as the laptop. I *did* say I wanted a mirror image, didn't I? Well, that's what I got! The solution is that I'll have to change my laptop setting permanently so that it doesn't check mail on opening and do that manually when I open the program. Not a biggie, and I can easily live with it. Thanks, once again, for your help. Mike -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 http://janusbooks.com Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael S. Greenbaum [MSG] wrote:'
MSG But as long as I'm writing you, I want to tell you that was a
MSG brilliant explanation of the Synchronise program. It was not
MSG only clear but it explained the *reasoning* behind the three
MSG steps which had previously made no sense at all to me.
Hmmm. Thanks. :)
Maybe I aught to review it and convert it to HTML.
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Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:'
RO Since you keep on mentioning that, couldn't you place this link
RO in your signature?
RO http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/rogues/allie_martin.jpg
:) Who follows links in signatures anyway? ... Especially to
determine gender? g
I had started using my middle name, but I didn't like doing it so I
decided to switch back and correct as I go along. Afterall, my name
*is* Allie; I do see the reason for misunderstanding, and I can't do
much at this point about it. ;)
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Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hello Victor (uhm... I mean Allie), On Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 13:55:07 -0500, you wrote concerning 'Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer': ... Afterall, my name *is* Allie; I do see the reason for misunderstanding, and I can't do much at this point about it. ;) Maybe they've seen to much Allie McBeal? ;-) I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get Hello Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't have a reply template in your addressbook entry that overrules the addressbook entry of the list. So I don't know what's causing this. Does anyone has a clue? -- Best regards, David ** 007 of Borg: ThunderBorg. ** [TB! 1.62 Christmas Edition] [Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, DvZ I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get Hello DvZ Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't have a reply DvZ template in your addressbook entry that overrules the addressbook DvZ entry of the list. So I don't know what's causing this. DvZ Does anyone has a clue? I would assume I am the Victor in question. It is strange and I would like to also know why. Perhaps maybe somehow your AB likes me? I will watch as I too would like to hear the answer... - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgTjcF3LB35+TCg0EQJdAwCZAepn4z2/lUZvgdBDlZh+u3t3jlYAnjfG UtSCrafn0pztF9EsgK8PSM4A =Zhv3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
Hallo David, On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:38:14 +0100GMT (21-12-02, 22:38 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DvZ I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get Hello DvZ Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't have a reply DvZ template in your addressbook entry that overrules the addressbook DvZ entry of the list. So I don't know what's causing this. Maybe it sounds silly, but check whether you've got an address book entry of a certain Victor with Allie's address. It looks like you've got the addresses of listmembers in your Address Book. Until I decided that such an AB group didn't have any real use, I ran a filter that put all senders on this list in an address book group, caused more problems than that it did good. For instance listmembers forwarding or redirecting messages and so causing duplicate (and false) address book entries. Now I'm old and wise and know how I could enhance such a filter, but also that also that I don't need it anymore. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Van Zuijlekom [DVZ] wrote:'
DVZ I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get
DVZ Hello Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't
DVZ have a reply template in your addressbook entry that overrules
DVZ the addressbook entry of the list. So I don't know what's
DVZ causing this.
DVZ Does anyone has a clue?
This could only be caused by one of your templates. You just have to
find the errant one.
Do you have a filter that automatically adds posters to your address
book?
When Victor's templates were problematic his replies would say that
the message is from him but his address would be that of the person
to whom he's replying. Look for the address/es in your address book for
Victor and you should find that the e-mail address is actually mine,
i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
I'm using TB 1.61 Business Edition on a Pentium III laptop PC running Windows 98 SE with 256 mb RAM. I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I do a Restore in TB. The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop will mirror what is on my laptop. I thought that the Synchonise program would do that, but I had problems understanding how to use it. Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie Martin's great explanation from January 2002 which seems to deal with the same problem I'm having. Her instructions were much clearer than the instructions in the Help Menu for the Maintenance center. However, in her email she stated: The synchronisation process doesn't delete mail. It merely adds mail, folders and settings from the source system that aren't present in the target system. I tried the Synchronisation program--to be sure--and just as she said, mail was added but not deleted. Since neither Synchronise nor Backup/Restore will create this mirror image I need, can anyone suggest an alternate solution? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, MSG I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. The only solution I currently have to help you mirror an inbox is to share your accounts directory with the desktop. I mean file, folder and printer sharing provided by Windows. The only problem I can see arise from this is what actually happens is any changes you make last on one PC will reflect in the next one on next access. MSG My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. MSG Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from MSG my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I MSG use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I MSG do a Restore in TB. You backup on your notebook, pass the file to your desktop and then restore it on your notebook or on your desktop? If you restore TB! files on your desktop it means you're not really using your desktop solely for backup. In this case share the mail account if possible to have both your desktop and notebook access one account. Otherwise backing up TB! is always a good idea and storing it elsewhere is better. MSG The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new MSG messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which MSG have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. If you're deleting messages but they seem to show up after a restore are you purging and compressing all of your folders? I purge, compress, backup and every restore never brought from the dead a message that was meant to be deleted. Purging and compressing your folders I believe will wipe your account of deleted folders, messages and attachments, etc. MSG I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop MSG will mirror what is on my laptop. If you share your account the problem will disappear and what will happen is your notebook will mirror your desktop and your desktop mirror your notebook. I have the same setup as yourself. My notebook is my primary and my desktop my secondary. Both run XP and both are connected to each other via a very simple network. I thought running a network will cost and arm and a leg but it's really less than 10.00 dollars to accomplish. Look at the back of your PCs and see if you have 1394 IEEE firewire ports and if you do you're in luck. Your PCs should be able to communicate in live time and at blazing speeds. Nothing beats a stable network for less than 10.00 and a network sure beats almost anything else :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgQbz13LB35+TCg0EQKHUQCeN4kOsDVIl3imiG4f3adSBW9BvYoAn2Ei SlaFdS7Kzz6hQ233s3R50z0M =GH0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
