Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:25:06 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the message headers and can kill the message from server before the full message will be downloaded. However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble. Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action for selective download filters. Fair enough. If someone had a dial up Internet connection and had lots of big spam messages come through, it sounds like this approach might be tailor made for them. 'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete from server' My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you) so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too. Thanks - most of my spam is unknown, but this particular address is nothing but, so I can safely set it to 'delete the message'. I can use the other approach for the spam (unknown) filter though. The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I can't comment on how to achieve that. Thanks - I'm using Agent via gmane. I've updated the signature block in the Agent options. Yes. Cool - I think different programs must adhere to a different standard. I've seen newsreader programs which work fine with the '--' (without space), but The Bat needs the space by the looks of it. Oh well, no problem. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:15:36 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was C processed by Spam (Known). That's good, isn't it? ;-) Yes - it would seem that the filter is catching the message, which is great. C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? Are you sure it still is present on your server? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action. In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded travel through the Inbox. As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days on the server. The message has gone from the server - I have The Bat set to remove all messages on download anyway. I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought that it looked at the from address while the message was still on the server, and then would delete it without needing to download it. What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first place? C -- Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further line down. Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:17 +1000GMT (10-6-2008, 10:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought C that it looked at the from address while the message was still on C the server, and then would delete it without needing to download C it. Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the message headers and can kill the message from server before the full message will be downloaded. However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble. Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action for selective download filters. C What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first C place? 'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete from server' My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you) so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too. C Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be C the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further C line down. The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I can't comment on how to achieve that. C Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better? Yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.17 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5QiirgIjjo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Spam Filter
Hi, I have a filter thus: Name: Spam (Known) Condition: Sender Contains @neco.com.au Action: Delete the Message from the Server Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was processed by Spam (Known). Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000, Grumpy Gamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The Oops, list has munged the email. Let's try expanding it out a little: Neco less than sign newsletter at @ neco dot com dot au greater than sign -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was C processed by Spam (Known). That's good, isn't it? ;-) C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? Are you sure it still is present on your server? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action. In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded travel through the Inbox. As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days on the server. C -- Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.17 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpHrW9R90S7M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
