Re: Some eval questions

2001-07-01 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Karin,

On Friday, June 29, 2001 at 11:32:20 PM you wrote:

KS Why in the world would it say [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Where
KS do these zeros come from?

It tells what is the string evaluated on.
First digit says:
0 = Sender
1 = Recipient
2 = subject
3 = Text
4 = Kludges

Second Digit = Presence:
0 = Yes
1 = No

So your '00' means: If 'sender' _DOES_ contain '@thebat.dutaint.com' move
from '\\kspaink\Inbox' to '\\kspaink\Mailinglists\TheBat'
If there where a '01' in front it would tell: If 'sender' _DOES NOT_ contain


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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-29 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:29:16 -0400, Mark contributed this to our
collective wisdom:
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MAC Could someone explain this in a little more detail.  I think I'd like
MAC to take this approach to applying a common set of filters to all of my
MAC accounts.

Just select the filter rule and hit CTRL+C or right click it and select
copy. You can then open the other accounts filter rule and paste it in by
using the same menu. However, AFAICS, you can only copy or move single
filter rules at a time. If you need to move entire filter sets, this will
therefore be tedious.

Closing TB! and copying over the account.srx files between accounts will
be more efficient.

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-29 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Mark,

On Friday, June 29, 2001 at 6:29:16 PM you wrote:

MG Objection! With 1.53d, which you are using, you can copy filters! They
MG are even editable as TXT information in your clipboard.

MAC Could someone explain this in a little more detail.  I think I'd like
MAC to take this approach to applying a common set of filters to all of my
MAC accounts.

Simply go to the Sorting Office, select one Filter, press Ctrl+C or use the
right mouse button and choose Copy, open your preferred text editor and use
the Paste function within the editor (even a TB! edit window would do it :))

There you'll see TB! filter rules are plain text capable.
Edit it, copy the hole block and paste it in the Sorting Office, a new
filter will appear and you'll see all the changes you've made in the text
editor applied to the new filter.

There's not much more to tell right now, play a bit around with it and you'll
see the effects :-) If there are further _concrete_ questions come back and
ask, I think someone here will be able to answer :-)
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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-29 Thread David van Zuijlekom

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Hello Mark,

On Friday, June 29, 2001 at 12:29:16 -0400, Mark A. Chalkley [MAC]
wrote concerning 'Some eval questions':

MG Objection! With 1.53d, which you are using, you can copy filters!
MG They are even editable as TXT information in your clipboard.

MAC Could someone explain this in a little more detail. I think I'd
MAC like to take this approach to applying a common set of filters to
MAC all of my accounts.

If you R-click on a filter and then press Copy it copies the filter
into the clipboard. Then you can paste it into another account or in
your favourite text editor.

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-29 Thread Karin Spaink

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On 29-06-2001 at 18:41, Peter Palmreuther kindly wrote:
 Hello Mark,

MAC Could someone explain this in a little more detail.  I think I'd like
MAC to take this approach to applying a common set of filters to all of my
MAC accounts.

 Simply go to the Sorting Office, select one Filter, press Ctrl+C or use the
 right mouse button and choose Copy, open your preferred text editor and use
 the Paste function within the editor (even a TB! edit window would do it :))
 There you'll see TB! filter rules are plain text capable.

me tries

What is weird is that my filter for TUBDL and TBTECH
basically say

   copy everything that has @thebat.dutaint.com to
   a separate folder

but when I look at the copy-n-pasted filter rule, I see
this:

   BeginFilter
   Name: The Bat
   Active: 1
   Source: \\kspaink\Inbox
   Target: \\kspaink\Mailinglists\TheBat
   CopyFolder: \\\none
   MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Why in the world would it say [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Where
do these zeros come from?


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RE: Some eval questions

2001-06-29 Thread Mars Descent



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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Matthias Fichtner
 Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Some eval questions
 
 
 Dave Gorman wrote:
  I believe I *imported* my Outlook folders/messages
  into Outlook Express 5, and then imported my Outlook
  Express 5 folders/messages into TB! through the
  import wizard.
 
 I'm currently trying to move from Outlook Express 5.5
 to The Bat. Unfortunately, the import wizard does not
 do a very good job at importing messages from Outlook
 Express. Approx. 5 to 10 percent of all imported
 messages end up corrupted or garbled. :(
 
 Therefore I decided to move my message archive using
 an IMAP server: I upload Outlook Express' folders to
 the IMAP server and then download them using The Bat.
 So far, this is working quite well -- I haven't lost a
 single message. :)

Can we all do that?  How you do it?



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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-28 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Mark A. Chalkley wrote:

 since there doesn't seem to be any way to copy filters from one
 account to another.

Objection! With 1.53d, which you are using, you can copy filters! They
are even editable as TXT information in your clipboard.

Regards,

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread Dave Gorman

Hello Mark,

Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 5:43:50 PM, you wrote:

MAC First, is it possible to have multiple POP accounts share common mail
MAC folders within a single Inbox?  I'd also like to be able to have them share the 
same
MAC Trash folder, too and, preferably, even the same Sent folder, though
MAC this isn't as important.  Reason:  I've got 7 POP accounts, and it's a
MAC terrible mess to have separate folders for each account, especially
MAC since I group messages from multiple accounts within common
MAC folders by subject.

To the best of my knowledge, separate accounts cannot share the 4 core folders
(Inbox, Outbox, Sent, Trash). Filters can be applied that can move messages to a
folder in a different account, however I'm not sure the extent of what is
possible with that. For instance, I'm fairly sure one can filter mail from one
account to the inbox of another account. I know for certain that mail can be
filtered from one account to a user-created folder in a different account. I
don't know, however, if mail can be filtered from one account to the outbox,
sent, or trash folders in another account. I'll have to appeal to the experts on
that.

MAC Second, is there any way to convert a mailbox from the e-mail client
MAC program Calypso?  I'm evaluating The Bat! because my current
MAC program, Calypso, in no longer being supported.  I'm considering a
MAC couple other possibilities, too, and these two issues are the main
MAC considerations, at this point.

I don't know Calypso specifically. I know that when I first started using TB! I
could not import directly from my Outlook 2000. I had to export from Outlook
into a format that TB! could import. That might end up being your best bet.

MAC Thanks!

You're welcome :)


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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:51:05 -0500, Dave wrote these words of wisdom:

...
DG You know, now that you've made me try to remember :), I believe I
DG found that Outlook didn't have any acceptable export formats. If I
DG recall correctly, I believe I *imported* my Outlook folders/messages
DG into Outlook Express 5, and then imported my Outlook Express 5
DG folders/messages into TB! through the import wizard. I'm fairly
DG certain that's how I did it, and I think it must have gone fairly
DG smoothly as I'm sure I would remember if there were big problems!

Yes. This is how Outlook users have been successfully migrating to TB!
without event.

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread Gary

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Hello Mark,

Wednesday, June 27, 2001, 17:43:50, you wrote:


MAC Second, is there any way to convert a mailbox from the e-mail client
MAC program Calypso?  I'm evaluating The Bat! because my current
MAC program, Calypso, in no longer being supported.  I'm considering a
MAC couple other possibilities, too, and these two issues are the main
MAC considerations, at this point.

MAC Thanks!

MAC Mark Chalkley

I used Calypso for a little while and it is very easy to convert to The
Bat!  Firstly, save to archive any files or folders you want in Calypso.
Secondly, select Tools | Import Messages | From UNIX-mailboxes in The Bat!
and point to the archived Calypso text file.  Done.

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread Matthias Fichtner

Dave Gorman wrote:
 I believe I *imported* my Outlook folders/messages
 into Outlook Express 5, and then imported my Outlook
 Express 5 folders/messages into TB! through the
 import wizard.

I'm currently trying to move from Outlook Express 5.5
to The Bat. Unfortunately, the import wizard does not
do a very good job at importing messages from Outlook
Express. Approx. 5 to 10 percent of all imported
messages end up corrupted or garbled. :(

Therefore I decided to move my message archive using
an IMAP server: I upload Outlook Express' folders to
the IMAP server and then download them using The Bat.
So far, this is working quite well -- I haven't lost a
single message. :)

Sam
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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:43:50 -0400, Mark wrote these comments:
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MAC First, is it possible to have multiple POP accounts share common mail
MAC folders within a single Inbox?

With the use of filters, yes. However, you'd still have to create the
seven accounts you mentioned and you'll have to create filters for all the
accounts to move the messages to the desired folders in the main account
you wish to work. Not a very good solution if it involves so many
accounts.

The other options:

There are free services available that will forward mail for multiple
e-mail accounts to a single POP account where you can then download all
the messages from.

Another solution would be to run your own local mail server. It's not as
involved or overhead intensive as it sounds. I'd recommend it to anyone
who has to manage many remote POP accounts and wishes to funnel the
traffic to only one or two TB! accounts. You can then use the SMTP server
that comes with the mail server. One that I'd recommend is Mercury/32
because it's free, takes up little resources (~3MB of RAM) and would make
managing those accounts via a single TB! account a snap. TB!, with a local
server, would make a better solution for this purpose than any client out
there that supports personalities and multi-POP accounts.

Personally, I use MDaemon on my desktop machine here. It's excellent (more
feature rich), but it's not freeware and uses more resources.

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Re: Some eval questions

2001-06-27 Thread Raj

Mark,

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, at 18:43:50 [GMT -0400] (which was 4:13 AM where I live) you
wrote:

 First, is it possible to have multiple POP accounts share common mail
 folders within a single Inbox?  I'd also like to be able to have them share the same
 Trash folder, too and, preferably, even the same Sent folder, though
 this isn't as important.  Reason:  I've got 7 POP accounts, and it's a
 terrible mess to have separate folders for each account, especially
 since I group messages from multiple accounts within common
 folders by subject.

As  of now TB does not have the feauture of checking for multiple pop accoun from a 
single
TB  account.  This  is a much desired feauture as I too have 5 pop accounts (thanks to 
the
multiple ISP I subscribe to) and would like to get the mails sent to these accounts.

As  mentioned  by  Allie  C. Martin, use a mail server is the only option as of now. I 
did
download Mercury/32, but found it a bit a dfficult to configure and use. A simpler 
program
(with lot less feature) is Hamster download at 
http://home.t-online.de/home/juergen.haible/english.htm


Raj

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