Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:50:01 -0500, Guti [G] wrote these comments: ... G Right, so what do you do if you want to quote several blocks (with G lines in between that you don't want to quote)? After quoting one G block, you can't go back to the preview or message window, select G another block and quote it again with F4. I haven't had this problem to deal with. I usually either quote the entire message and delete the unwanted parts as I type (this is if I want more of the message quoted than not), or I select the smallest portion of the message I want and then hit F4. I then trim the rest as I type. I find backing and forthing from window to window to transfer clippings to be more tedious. Of course, if I have to quote from multiple messages then I have no choice but that's unusual. G I don't exactly want TB do to that frequence, what I am asking for is G a revised quoting system: I would like to be able to mark a block in G any message, press a key and have it inserted in the actual editor G window. With the initials of the sender of the email the quote stems G from and with the cursor positioned two lines under the just inserted G quote so that I can start typing right away. Sounds great except for the part about the cursor being positioned two lines below. That's a user specific need and a pre-emptive one. G BTW: Is there a way to get the attributes *bold* /italic/ and G _underlined_ showed in TB? Is this on the wish list? While composing ... no. When reading mail, yes ... soon. The RTF viewer that's still in beta (I think ... it's been so long ;-)) supports this. G That's not a problem: The quote is always inserted in the upper G editor window, meaning the one that was used most recently. If a user G wants to quote in another window, he has to bring it up and then G select the block to quote, but in most times this is not the case as G you want to quote in the editor window you are just working at. Ok. G By the quoting system I described above: You have the message you G want to quote from on top, mark the block and press Q (or whatever G button) to have this text inserted as quote in the actual editor G window. The Bat can tell the source, because it is the message I just G marked a block in. This would be good. I've wished for this but wonder how much it would take to implement such a feature. G Okay, but this forces me do leave a blank line between each paragraph. G What's the use of that? I couldn't write a message like this here... It makes for much easier reading for sure, especially in the context of e-mail and having to read from a computer screen. - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/47 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyQXREACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JE8ACgrTeTAecLtxRY5p6pCLnYiqsZ r/IAoPfXLEorN7G5jyKFXFVN47yXeC2u =O6rD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
Hello Allie, Thursday, March 14, 2002, 9:19:27 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: ACM Of course, if I have to quote from multiple messages then I have ACM no choice but that's unusual. If I quote from multiple messages, I press reply for each of the messages, and use these replies as a basis for copying and pasting. Then I get the correct quotestyle with the correct intials for each quote. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:46:23 +0100, Ottar Grimstad [OG] graced us with these comments: ... ACM Of course, if I have to quote from multiple messages then I have ACM no choice but that's unusual. OG If I quote from multiple messages, I press reply for each of the OG messages, and use these replies as a basis for copying and pasting. OG Then I get the correct quotestyle with the correct intials for each OG quote. That's a good work around that I use when I really want to have the initials for each quotation. - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/47 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyQiu0ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KxEQCfeZSjbULrVSD/ATLA7S0DVHNR yn0AnjSTCswpjsLMV8zTMgOoLuOOhS9Q =2501 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 00:08:45 -0700 [ Wed, 13 Mar 2002], Dave In Phoenix [DIP] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... DIP Actually I think I just solved the problem..learning new ways I DIP can highlight and copy from preview screen and then paste as quotes DIP in reply modegee..didn't realize I could make it so easy..still DIP learning..obviously. It doesn't include who said it but that is DIP minor. Why not highlight in the message viewer the text you wish to quote and then hit F4. This will generate a reply quoting only the text block that you had selected. Just as it works in PMMail. Another way of doing this is to select the text and hold down the Shift key while hitting the reply toolbar button. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/47 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyPEeQACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KCFQCgltq6IAitUhFq251K7dOBkjRi hk0An1ENEdaPDFntdJX3Wn4ed3aenR0C =BMtQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
Hello guti. At 10:40 AM on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 you wrote the following about [Feature wish: Editor improvement]: guti [...] person's. And once the initials become longer guti than let's say 5 letters it should leave them guti completely, instead of having a quote beginning with guti this: ihsjhdgjshghjhjk guti Does anyone here know the old MausNet email-client guti program CAT? This program had perfect handling (not guti only) of quotes. [/...] I used F4 to select text from 2 graphs reply to your msg. Is that what you mean? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/46/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 10:40:33 -0500 [ Wed, 13 Mar 2002], Guti [G] wrote these words of wisdom: ... G That's exactly what I use. Unfortunately, this F4 thing only allows G quoting the first block. How do you select multiple blocks of text from the message view window prior to hitting F4 to generate the reply? I just tried to and I can't. G For the following quotes I have to go back to the message/preview G window, mark a text, Control-C, Alt-Tab, Alt-Ins, Enter to start G writing under the next quote. With a makro program I have written a G makro that allows me to just press Control-Q instead of the frequence G Control-C, Alt-Tab, Alt-Ins, Enter. Good. This is what macro programs were created for and I use one heavily myself. G But I would find it better if The Bat could do it itself, it wouldn't G even be necessary to go over the clipboard, the marked block could be G inserted as quote directly. You really can't expect TB! to do that sequence for you automatically. It's something that *you* want to do, the way *you* want it to be done. Suppose a user wishes to quote portions of text in different messages that he's composing. How would that be handled? This is why specialist editors have macro recorders and not built in automatic sequences as you describe. G And the initials in front of the quote sign should be the initials of G the sender of the message I am quoting from, not always the ones of G the message I am replying to. TB! can tell which initials to use depending on which message is being replied to. However, how is it to tell the source of text from anywhere else? The only compromise there would be to do as I do. Create a Quick Template containing the single macro '%Quoteclipboard'. If you wish to quote material and not associate the sender initials with it, then copy the text block to the clipboard and invoke the QT. The text will be quoted without initials. G Is anybody here using this Auto-format option? How do people manage G do make paragraphs with that, I don't get it? Each time I want to G start a new paragraph and press Enter to do that, the cursors jumps G back to the end of the last paragraph once I start typing again. Separate each paragraph by a blank line and it works. - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/47 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyPiRsACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IB5ACgsBJPRnkjN+jXINhnCnL6EWLT r5YAoJFggHxa8p4kXjD4Pq/kXJYOnXp9 =snLi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002, 6:50:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACM You really can't expect TB! to do that sequence for you ACM automatically. It's something that *you* want to do, the way ACM *you* want it to be done I don't exactly want TB do to that frequence, what I am asking for is a revised quoting system: I would like to be able to mark a block in any message, press a key and have it inserted in the actual editor window. With the initials of the sender of the email the quote stems from and with the cursor positioned two lines under the just inserted quote so that I can start typing right away. The clipboard needn't be used at all. *This is actually a task for an email program.* TB just doesn't offer it. I use a macro tool to halfway get this function, but it is not really convenient. This actually doesn't sound like such an unreasonable setup. BUT, and here I go again, I continue to believe that the first advance beyond how F4 works for replies is a similar ability to block and quote in a message when replying to all. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 1:50 op donderdag 14 maart 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: excuse me for barging in, but: Right, so what do you do if you want to quote several blocks (with lines in between that you don't want to quote)? After quoting one block, you can't go back to the preview or message window, select another block and quote it again with F4. i do not understand what the trouble is with just replying (and thus quoting the complete message) and then deleting the blocks you don't need to reply to while you type. you need to have some context while replying, i think it works great that way. BTW: Is there a way to get the attributes *bold* /italic/ and _underlined_ showed in TB? Is this on the wish list? yuc. messages with the reply-marker '' prepended should be bold, and that's it, no more formatting. this ain't HTML, baby! i've seen mozilla-mail doing just that, and it really sucks. just try to imagine it while reading. if you need formatting to get your message across, you should consider rephrasing your message. which gets me to another favourite of mine: the initials (or, even worse, the complete name!) before the '' marker. it really sucks for people that do not use TB. By the quoting system I described above: You have the message you want to quote from on top, mark the block and press Q (or whatever button) to have this text inserted as quote in the actual editor window. The Bat can tell the source, because it is the message I just marked a block in. and if you'd mis-click somewhere the wrong quote would end up in the wrong window. not really what i'd call user-friendly. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPI/sUEtQMadp+KslEQInnACg+QfqUY7lQk3il2bMqeNwOR9Ij6YAn21k kbmWz3tSKXwIkNPn7AqzuAyI =07LO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 02:18:21 +0100 Mrten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, so what do you do if you want to quote several blocks (with lines in between that you don't want to quote)? After quoting one block, you can't go back to the preview or message window, select another block and quote it again with F4. i do not understand what the trouble is with just replying (and thus quoting the complete message) and then deleting the blocks you don't need to reply to while you type. Sometimes we need it if replying message which the answer on top of quote or message which doesn't have sig separator while the signature and greetings long enough. On those case selective reply very useful. IMHO, selective reply in my mailer a bit different, I just select the text I want to requote then Ctrl-R (or click reply) it does the job. At first I feel TB! way more better, but later on Sylpheed way more convenient for me, more simple and consistent (always use same key for reply). BTW: Is there a way to get the attributes *bold* /italic/ and _underlined_ showed in TB? Is this on the wish list? Already does in TB! beta, using Rich Text Viewer. It's coloring :-) yuc. messages with the reply-marker '' prepended should be bold, and that's it, no more formatting. this ain't HTML, baby! i've seen mozilla-mail doing just that, and it really sucks. just try to imagine it while reading. if you need formatting to get your message across, you should consider rephrasing your message. My mailer do that as well, till I change the default font(True Type) to monospace, no problem for coloring after that :-) which gets me to another favourite of mine: the initials (or, even worse, the complete name!) before the '' marker. it really sucks for people that do not use TB. The problem is other mailer can not control quote wrap. Suppose the default column of ours different than sender makes quoting look bad. For coloring matter, not like TB! most mailer out there can not control how many character from left the tag quote () will affect the coloring system. Most mailer out there using softwrap while typing (something like AutoFormat and autowrap in TB!), hardwrap only while sending, we can not control the hard wrap. I feel the way TB! do is the best! it's What You See Is What You Send, someday all mailer will do like this :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:14:37 -0500, Guti [G] graced us with these comments: ... ACM This assumes that you've finished quoting what you want to. This is ACM dangerous. G Well, it assumes that you have marked all you want to quote. But if you G want to quote more from other lines, this feature wouldn't do any damage, G because you click with the mouse in the Original Text window part again G anyways to mark the next block (unless you mark the block with the G keyboard). G I would agree to make this feature optional :-) Exactly so. G The idea is (and that is the big advantage of having the original G text in the editor window) to jump between original text and edited G text several times: You mark a block, quote it, write your comment to G it, mark the next block, quote it, and write the next comment... This G is much more comfortable than quoting everything in the beginning in G then search for the right places to write your comments in between. I'm with you on that. I do things exactly the way that you do it and it seems natural to me as well. However, I'm sure that others don't do it in a similar way. We've had discussions on this list that revealed this and it had nothing to do with the original text window. Some like to do all quoting before while others like to quote all text after. G I know that one, but they probably get a lot of emails there and I G thought maybe the developers pay more attention to the mailinglists. They pay more attention to the beta list. I don't know how much attention they pay to this list. Probably a little. A lot of discussion on TB!'s design, design philosophy and development direction take place on the beta list. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/47 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyO2mUACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KEAACggYq447NrpK7ZU9CVcJYUvVT9 fjEAoL0Xkpj57CVjNWxZcPSQT5WlWyoe =HBkX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
Hello Dave You wrote On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, at 23:44:51 [GMT -0700] (17:44 Wednesday where I live):- The only feature I miss from old days, is seeing the text in the big editor window and being able to highlight with mouse the text I want to quote and right click to have JUST that text quoted. Highlight the text, press F4 as I have done here. -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 13.03.2002 07:44, Dave in Phoenix wrote the following: With Bat it seems it is all or none and if none have to go to the tiny upper screen and copy and paste with quotes. Not that hard but miss the old way. New programs, new ways. Try to adapt to a better standard, I say. But why not stop using the mouse, select text with shift+arrowkeys or shift+ctrl+arrowkeys (for word selection), then pressing shift+del (for cut) or ctrl+ins (for copy), moving to the place where you want to insert the new (quoted text) and pressing alt+ins. If you just want to quote a couple of lines, quickly mark text, press ctrl+ins and then alt+ins. Can't be quicker than that? If you wanted to right-click, the context menus would not be available, which in my opinion often can be a great help. I would not like to see this feature in The Bat. Leaving all the original text whether before or after is terrible in my view and a total waste. Standard netiquette is what you are asking for. And I'm giving it to you :) What is really a mess is on a discussion list in digest mode when some folks just leave all the quoted text, which makes digests huge and very hard to find what you want to read that is new. Dave, why not just read the topic list, pane number two in the lower left corner of your preview area. That should make it somewhat easier to find out whether the digest contains important information or just be archived/deleted. Hope this helps. - -- Vyrdsamt... - - Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net - - Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Tlf: 55195667, 48298152, 55239715 - - System Integrator, Star Shipping, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyO9+cACgkQTJM+uVReKBnTnwCeNpOoJypQbt0HIzNfRvOMhymq xYEAmgIqm5Ejp0Jq9x/J98k/r8HVV/ml =R7Uo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 13.03.2002 07:51, John Phillips wrote the following: Highlight the text, press F4 as I have done here. Another top notch feature! Great! Note: This only works in preview mode, not editor mode (there it just pops up the annoying spel chekar. - -- Vyrdsamt... - - Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net - - Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Tlf: 55195667, 48298152, PGP:0x545E2819 - - System Integrator, Star Shipping, [EMAIL PROTECTED] BBS Tip #45: ALT-H gives you sysop access! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyO+ksACgkQTJM+uVReKBk1nwCfeoEulkzT5Q1eu3pol5eggSDz FQ8An3U886MgGenCMWyXcT/Bur8BDpqR =15pD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 13.03.2002 08:08, Dave in Phoenix wrote the following: Jakob wrote: But why not stop using the mouse, Because I get hundreds of E-mails/day and am use to just sitting back and using my mouse until I have to start actually typing a reply. I never use keyboard shortcuts...hard to train an old dog new tricks :) But it is faster! And since you get hundreds of emails daily - whoa; carpal tunnel syndrome, here I come! - -- Vyrdsamt... - - Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net - - Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Tlf: 55195667, 48298152, PGP:0x545E2819 - - System Integrator, Star Shipping, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyO/OIACgkQTJM+uVReKBlX6QCggXGsG+lidd2SxmYzHSRKb7XU q1wAnAx2kmEIshftocY7k5jNfn29pQdB =HerW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Feature wish: Editor improvement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 18:45:31 -0500 [ Sat, 9 Mar 2002], Guti [G] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... G And this is annoying me since I use The Bat! There is no way around it. G The editor would be much better if it was possible to resize this G part of the window constantly. Yes. I'm wondering why failure to retain a user defined size for the original text sub window hasn't been addressed so far. G Marking a block in this part of the window and then quoting it would G be a powerful feature, but it is way too cumbersome! I have to G position the cursor manually after quoting a text from this upper G part of the window. At the time I select quote the cursor should G jump in the lower part of the window and be positioned at the G beginning of the line two lines below the just inserted quotation. This assumes that you've finished quoting what you want to. This is dangerous. If they do things the way you want them to, soon you'll be hearing some hollering that the cursor is ripped from their control when they are trying to quote snippets in sequence and that the editor is trying to think for them. I think the cursor should remain in the original text field since the user may wish to quote something else. When you're finished, you hit tab and your cursor is at the end of your quotation where it should be. Again, in my opinion, it would be dangerous to assume that all users will want the cursor two lines below the quotation. G I find that the editor in general could be improved, as everyone uses G it all the time. I really like this editor but I do agree that it could do with some improvements. G Control-Delete to delete the word right of the cursor doesn't even G work! Word-for-word deletion with Control-Backspace only works within G the same line. Neither work in the subject field. The Bat gets more G and more advanced features that only minorities use, but doesn't even G support the simplest editor features. G Do the programmers read this mailing list and take the suggestions here G into account or where should I send them? Look in the help menu. There's a submenu called 'feedback'. You can send a suggestion message to be sure that your 'voice is heard'. - -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/46 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyKsvoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KimQCeIq3mZo45yX/TOli9ihE8HnGs XfYAoOlLO2MejmWqsSsmlENbHvETZMU1 =7Eq1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com